
ikke1959
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I think if you travel 2,83 times to Thailand for delicious food you can eat delicious too in China for that amount of money
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2 hours ago, newnative said:
I think you mis-read my post, which referred to both renters and owners--who both save lots of money living here. I, too, own my house, fully paid for and bought last year. The house, a 3 bedroom 4 bath with pool outside of Pattaya, cost me 6.5MB. About $180, 000. That's less than the small 1 bedroom 1 bath condo I owned in the US, which is now worth $235,000.
So, living here, I have much larger space to live in, with my own pool, for much less money. Buying my large house here, instead of that small 1 bedroom condo in the US, saved me about $55,000. Had I tried to buy a 3 bedroom with pool in the US, the savings would be even more here in comparison--in the town where I lived in the US, 3 bedroom single family homes are $500,000 and up.
My response to the poster complaining about the high cost of jam and wine remains valid. Instead of laser-focusing on relatively small cost items like jam, it's important to look at the savings you achieve here on the big ticket items, especially housing. I think it's likely that your 4 bedroom house here in Thailand cost less than a 4 bedroom in your home country, and likely costs less to run each year here when real estate taxes, HOA fees, maintenance costs, and utilities are factored in.
Of course, nobody likes to pay high prices on products we buy. But, it's important to look at the big picture. As I said in my earlier post, the savings you achieve on the big ticket items like housing pays for a lot of small ticket items like jam and wine.
I agree with you, but a house is a one time purchase, and indeed much cheaper than my country too, but there is much more than a house, I have to eat and imported food whatever is because of taxes very expensive, That are costs that nobody calculate. In my country a jar of Hero jam is 2,5 euro that is 100 THB but in Thailand I pay 250 THB for the same jar. If you calculate probably how much extra you pay for all these items maybe you save on your house but you pay it by the daily groceries, and if that is not enough now Thailand is going to tax all incomes/wages/salaries/pensions from all the foreigners... and believe me the tax here is higher than in my homecountry... I am intergraded already here after 20 years, but still I see that Thailand is not the country anymore that is attractive to foreigners, but there are other options surely for newcomers and Thailand will miss them because of their greed
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19 minutes ago, JoePai said:
One small(?) problem is they do not have all the money to give away as yet
One small problem??? indeed they don't have the money yet, but Thailand and digital things is another small problem.. 90 days reporting online, Mor Prom, safety at digital bank apps.....This will be no different, the app will not work is refused, doesn't get the money, crashes, just name it... This is Thailand
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Borrow the money means paying interest and pay back and that would harm the economy much more than not giving the 10k.. Besides the Government always has money enough... print a lot money it will raise the inflation but who cares, as long as the 10k goes on
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It doesn't matter ... withe no fail law in Thailand everybody will pass anyway every year.....Only need to have attending classes.. In some schools even teachers are not allowed to give grades lower than 2,5 even to the never working students....
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What a gift a boiled egg.... All poverty problems solved
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6 hours ago, newnative said:
You're citing items of relatively small expense, jam, for heaven's sake, while ignoring the really big ticket items, like keeping a roof over your head, utilities, real estate taxes, homeowner maintenance fees, and so on.
Twelve years ago, I was renting out my small 1 bedroom USA condo for $1500 a month, about 54,000 baht. You can rent a 1 bedroom condo in Thailand most places for 15,000 baht a month. Of course, condos for less or more can be found depending on your budget and location. That 39,000 baht savings will buy a lot of jam and wine each month.
That same small USA condo is now valued by Zillow at $273,000, about 9.8 million baht. Should you choose to own rather than rent, you can easiy find 1 bedroom condos most places in Thailand for 3MB or less, leaving much more money in the bank compared to purchasing that USA condo. Monthly condo maintenance fees, and taxes, will be far less, too. Again, more money for jam and wine.
I live in a nice house with 4 bedrooms, and 2 bathrooms, fully owned and paid.... so I don't know what you are talking about.. I never have rented...But for a drinkable wine I want to pay but not for the crap here... and be fair, with all the high taxed products we don't contribute enough because with the tax law many will leave, as they will surely implement it.. The Government is in need of money and foreigners with their incomes can pay a lot..And Do you like to pay overcharged prices anyway??
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5 hours ago, BritManToo said:
My (her) mortgage on a 3 bed detached house is 10kbht/month, back in the UK a rented room in a shared house would cost double that.
There is no need for anyone to buy imported goods, make your own jam and it costs almost nothing, plenty of coffee shops charging 25bht a cup, no need for an imported machine and filters.
As for taxing our foreign incomes ...... it'll never happen!
living in a dreamworld?? What do you eat for breakfast? only bread? Make your own jam... Have you seen the prices of strawberries?? Some people have no clue .. but you can eat your rice no problem for me
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The flip flop decisions always.... How can you ever rely on what is good and can be done in Thailand..It will be impossible to criminalze cannabis again..As it is impossible to let people wear a helmet, and the result.. Nothing will change and just a new law that will not be enforcement as so many, because the law enforcers are involved in many cases and they will protect their business
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3 hours ago, BritManToo said:
The only cost that matters is housing!
Nobody needs a pot of jam, but you do need a place to live.
just an example....Thailand was cheap, but not anymore.... even housing is getting more expensive and with housing only I will not live long, I have to eat and enjoy live a bit too...So with the expensive tax on imported goods, the coming income tax it will not be one of the best places to live in anymore... And if you want to know I pay here for a jar of jam double of what I would pay in Europe...and for Dolce Gusto coffeepads I pay here 100 THB than in EU... I have a house but I can't live from the wind
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3 hours ago, webfact said:relatively low cost of living,
It was once indeed, but with the current prices it is not so cheap anymore...Look at imported goods just as jam and other products... The prices are often as expensive as in Europe or even higher.. and the wines.... in the EU you pay lower prices for better wines in a restaurant than the quality here from the supermarket. the taxes are making it too expensive....
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3 hours ago, jts-khorat said:
You said, that there is no Buddhist rule that forbids alcohol. But you were flat out wrong. Additionally you are wrong that the Pañca-sila only counts for monks, it is the layman rule for everybody.
Having been caught out showing your painful ignorance, you are then changing the subject.
With how many Thai monks have you specifically discussed this issue and how many of those have specifically told you that "Thailand is not real Buddhists"?
I do not want to call you a liar, but your statements seem quite far out there.
One of my best friends is an abbot and a director of a temple school. Or maybe read what the Dalai Lama says about Thai Buddhism... I don't change subjects but I know very well what the rules are in Buddhism as I read a lot about it and when I was in school the director/ abbot and me talked a lot about it.. Maybe you should do the same.. start reading about real Buddhism.. In 10 years I know more than you think..
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3 hours ago, sambum said:
Not exactly a music lover are you?
I often go to Macro, Tesco Lotus, Big C etc., and the music is never too loud! In the USA they call it "Escalator Music" and in the UK we call it "Musak".
What I do object to is the "Melly Klismas" music starting in September/October!
in the UK but this is Thailand
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1 hour ago, sambum said:
"Other people make so much noise too with their TV's in shops, in the cars, and at home, restaurants, and just name it. and the RTP is doing nothing.
When do they ever in domestic disputes?
But I think they would have a difficult job curbing the type of noise that you complain about, i.e. "with their TV's in shops, in the cars, and at home, restaurants, and just name it."
JUst go out for a relaxed shopping at Big C Lotus or so....Background music like a club, and at the electronics they have their own party and on several places many speakers with talkin/screaming ladies// Even at the Makro they have everywhere a speaker which announces all products and prices of the vegetables, fish, meat bread.. Also with a background music of a club.. Probably you always go to a 7/11 shop
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47 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:
Maybe you need to read up a little bit more about Theravada, it is right there in the Pañca-sila (Five Precepts). It does not get more central to Theravada than this, truly, so you are absolutely mistaken:
Suramerayamajja pamadatthana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami.
I undertake the precept to refrain from intoxicating drinks and drugs which lead to heedlessness.
It is a valid discussion however, if a government should restrict people from breaking the Five precepts out of their own volition.
Who in Thailand is a real Buddhist??? praying for lottery numbers, gossip, smoking, sound pollutions, coyote dancings....If you are monk this rule counts, but even the monks are not all following the rules in Thailand, how many smoke, gamble and buy lottery??? Or are you from another planet? Asks monks abd they all will say Thailand is not real Buddhists
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Follow the money,,,,, whose house, who organise it, etc..... and you will be surprised who is behind it in reality..... The higher ranked the more they think they can do as the law is not for them
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it seems a bit out of order.. Thailands age will go up indeed, but the reason is not only that people live longer but the average is surely influenced by the many young deaths in traffic accidents for example...These deaths will not be parents, besides that the very very low wages in Thailand don't make it easy to get children..Parents have to work, grandparents bring up the kids, but with the costs of schools for many reasons and rising living costs, although the government want to make us believe something else with their low inflation rate, makes it difficult to make ends meet.
Than all Governments and elite don't care about it as this problem could be foreseen already decades ago, but the greed of them and the mai pen rai, because it will not affect us, is causing this problem.
Solutions are possible, but there will be a big resistance for example no company is willing to raise the salaries, as they make us afraid that everything will be more expensive,,, They forget to tell us that if people can buy they will make more profit too..
Another solution is that everybody has to fill in a tax form so that the Government knows what people do for a living, how much money they have and earn, and probably have to pay tax, as almost nobody in this country pays tax. That money could be used for a kind of state pension.
Stimulate more births by giving parents some money every few months extra for 3 or 4 kids ...
And do something about the tragic traffic accidents with decent education, a working policeforce, and updated fines instead of 100 to 500 THB. If for not wearing a helmet a fine need to be paid of 1500 tHB the first time and the second time 2500 THB, you will see how quickly everybody will wear a helmet, and for overloaded trucks, let them stop and take what is too much from the truck...They will complain but \with the correct load they can move on with a fine of 10k....and for the things that is too much they have to find a solution...And drunk drivers??/ let them sleep in a celll till they are sober, fine them with 10k to 25k and with a very high alcohol level leave the car behind until the judge in court decided .... But I will hear we need the car/motorcycle for work/ no work no income..... but that is the result if you think that nothing will happen and you can do as you want.. The more the punishments hurts the quicker people will follow the rules
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Buriram is Anutin...... I think it says all
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Temples should be a place for rest and peace and meditation, but in Thailand that are places that causes sound pollution, with their parties, and screaming... That is the first place that should lower their volumes to a normal level... Other people make so much noise too with their TV's in shops, in the cars, and at home, restaurants, and just name it. and the RTP is doing nothing there should be max volumes to produce and the RTP should enforce the laws, but ther it goes wrong...
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Never ever change anything Thailand. Open your eyes and look at the real world , There are the people who drink alcohol too there are religious holidays too and there are accidents and alcohol abuse too........and there are rules too....But Thailand want to control everybody and everything, There are no Buddhists rules in the religion that forbid alcohol , that is only the rule of Thailand.. If the Government keeps on going not to change anything tourists will stay away even more... Surely with dinosaurs as this example.... Enter the 21st century please
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Kid needs to go to a rehabilitation centre with his parents, for they all need to be re educated
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I am not sure, but I thought that by outbound flight you always could buy alcohol.....Inbound I have no clue. but with a very old law they have to make it free every day all day ... and maybe ask for identification if a minor wants to buy...
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They will not find her... probably the same connections as the Red Bull Heir
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passengers are no tourists.....
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Thailand ranks 6th best for expats
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Lottery is coming... Look what they will write next year if all money from foreigners is taxable in Thailand.... And the retirement people are willing to do volunteer jobs, they they are not allowed due workpermits and alcohol between 2 and 5 you only can drink at your home.... Yes once Thailand was teh place to be... but now other countries like Spain and Portugal and Panama are better..