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But according to a huge study done in the UK that is admittedly not yet peer reviewed,, AZ was less effective at stopping transmission than the Pfizer Biontech vaccine. Vaccines cut Covid transmission risk but only 90-day protection against Delta: Oxford study Study, yet to be peer-reviewed, says vaccinated individuals infected with Delta have lower odds of spreading virus if they got Pfizer shot than if they received AstraZeneca-Oxford. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02261-8

Maybe because there's never been a case where a vaccine demonstrated such latency. On the other hand, we know that some viruses can cause latent and unfortunate effects including death. So, what would a rational person choose in light of this discrepancy?

What comments like yours don't take account of is frequency and severity. It's best to look at meteorological evidence since infrastructure also plays a big role in flooding. paving landscape over will also tend to increase the likelihood of floods.

So you're claiming that "flu, cold, or whatever "case numbers" rival those of Covid? I'm sure you wouldn't make that claim without having solid evidence to back that claim. Care to share it with us? "They are over estimating mortality by bundling all sorts of deaths, some respiratory, some totally unrelated, into the Covid figures." So, you have access to the excess mortality figures for Thailand? Or, rather, the lack of them? Can you share a link to that with us?

Trump refused to join the trade agreement among pacific nations (to be fair, Clinton spoke out against it too) the name of which I've forgotten. Good news for China.

They have gone back on their promises before. And given the low level of vaccinations in most of the country, it doesn't seem unlikely that they will do so again.

Actually, the most likely explanation by far is that a lot higher percentage of Thais ride motorbikes than do residents of the UK.

But the topic here is about the economic consequences of Evergrande's collapse. Not the effect of the andemic on Evergrande. And even before the pandemic Evergrande was wildly overextended.

Do you think it might just be possible that they're underreporting mortality as well? And given the low vaccination rate in most of the country, why would the outcome of opening up fully be different from what it's been in other countries?. It's not like we don't have examples of the consequences of that in other countries.

Funny. I just flew on a domestic Vietjet flight from phuket and they demanded to see my COE before giving me my boarding pass board. One requisite for getting a COE is to have been fully vaccinated at least 2 weeks before entering Thailand. And there's this Domestic airlines allowed full flights "Dr Chawetsan Namwat, director for emergency health hazards and diseases, said that while airlines are allowed to book to full capacity he stressed other Covid-19 prevention measures remain intact. Dr Chawetsan said that passengers are required to be fully vaccinated or have negative Covid-19 test results 72 hours before boarding while urging those who are ill to avoid travelling. He said passengers will be required to undergo Covid-19 screening." https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2194919/domestic-airlines-allowed-full-flights So if you're not vaccinated, that means you have to provide proof via a PCR test take within 72 hours of the flight.

Well, since Thailand's main source of tourists is China, Europe including Russia, Australia, and North America, that 53% number is irrelevant. And given the possible consequences to the Thai economy if unvaccinated tourists are allowed entry, your prediction is a dubious one. It's the poorer nations of the world that are mostly unvaccinated. Not because they want to be but because they can't afford to buy vaccines. These are hardly an important potential source of tourists.

Right you can always trust a website where the authors don't even identify themselves. And there's this: Misleading clinical evidence and systematic reviews on ivermectin for COVID-19 Different websites (such as https://ivmmeta.com/, https://c19ivermectin.com/, https://tratamientotemprano.org/estudios-ivermectina/, among others) have conducted meta-analyses with ivermectin studies, showing unpublished colourful forest plots which rapidly gained public acknowledgement and were disseminated via social media, without following any methodological or report guidelines. These websites do not include protocol registration with methods, search strategies, inclusion criteria, quality assessment of the included studies nor the certainty of the evidence of the pooled estimates. Prospective registration of systematic reviews with or without meta-analysis protocols is a key feature for providing transparency in the review process and ensuring protection against reporting biases, by revealing differences between the methods or outcomes reported in the published review and those planned in the registered protocol." https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/05/26/bmjebm-2021-111678 Apart from that and a few other problems precluded from quotation by the 3 sentence rule, you clearly have stumbled on to a sterling website.

several keys including the "p" are no longer functional on my keyboard. Occasionally I forget to paste them in or heed the autocorrection feature. Hence "eole" and "grou" The comment should have read "Well, those who are vaccinated with 1 inoculation are listed as such. But you're right, obviously people in that group will be far more likely to come down with symptoms. As will, on average, those who are vaccinated twice but still in the latency period."

Better watch out when you make a categorical statement like that. It's bound to attract someone who claims that viruses are parasites' since they live, if that's the right word, off of another living thing. But scientifically speaking, no one refers to viruses as parasites. That term is reserved for eukaryotic organisms both single celled and multicellular. Eukaryotic organisms are those organisms that have a nucleus enclosed in a nuclear envelope. Viruses and bacteria are not eukaryotic organisms so aren't reckoned to be parasites'.

Yes, Ivermectin has been brilliant at treating parasitic disease. What relevance does that have to treating a viral disease? "Were the 121 studies found fraudulent by FDA that has been so happy with it over 30 years?" Again, what have these studies to do with Ivermectin's efficacy in treating parasitic diseases? And while the FDA may be enchanted with Ivermectin's effectiveness against parasites', against Covid not so much Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals. Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

But at least aspirin is proven to be effective for pain, and, as it turns out, in the case of heart patients, lifesaving. And there is solid research now for it to be extremely powerful, in the case of Covid, in both preventing infection and hospitalization, and mitigating the severity of symptoms and lessening mortality. What's more it and other over the counter painkillers are used a lot more often than Ivermectin. So the frequency of poisonings is an issue too. Oddly enough, I haven't seen any of the Ivermectin proponents rejoicing in the good news. Another indication of cultish beliefs.

It turns out time and again that these "experts" are no such thing. They have consistently misrepresented research. And the harm is that these believers in the ivermectin protocol eole end up in ICUs taking beds away from others. Beds that overwhelmingly likely would be available if they had been vaccinated. As for not being "Cultish" given the other falsehoods that these Ivermectin subscribe to, "cultish" is not an inapt word to describe their beliefs. Take this guy for instance Texas Republican Allen West, While Hospitalized for Covid, Doubles Down on Anti-Vaxx Rhetoric Despite refusing to get the vaccine, the account said West was “already taking Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin protocols,” two drugs that are unproven against the virus, both of which the FDA has cautioned people not to use as Covid treatments. According to the tweets, West was “experiencing a low-grade fever and light body aches” on Saturday and later tweeted that he had pneumonia caused by Covid but said it was “not serious.” “I am probably going to be admitted to the hospital,” he said after announcing both he and his wife received experimental monoclonal antibody infusion therapy. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/allen-west-covid-anti-vaxx-rhetoric-1239980/

The topic of this post is the possible economic consequences of the failure of a large, make that huge, Chinese real estate developer cum conglomerate. Nothing in this article or the comment that I commented upon made any reference at all to the pandemic. And if you reference my earlier comments in this thread you'll find that I am no apologist for the CCP. Triggered much?

I forgot that the reason why this research was done is the retroactive observational studies showed an equally big effect as do the current clinical ones. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13543784.2021.1950687

millions of men is not a number. what is it as a percentage of all men in the affected age groups and how does it compare to the number of women. Without those 2 figures we've got nothing. And the fact is maybe that number is already reflected in mortality rates. Maybe the difference would be a lot greater were those men not taking aspirin. Without baselines and those percentage figures we've got nothing.

They've withdrawn it because there are vaccines with somewhat lesser risk. But the risk of going unvaccinated still far outweighs the risks of being vaccinated for society as a whole.

It's overwhelmingly clear that your projection is extremely unlikely to be true. Already, over 48% of Thais have been vaccinated at least once with no sign of a diminution in demand. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

No, it's not recording the facts at all. Its recording fiction. Below are links leading to an exhaustive and major study of global temperatures over the last 2 millenia. It was ublished by the Nature organization, the world's preeminent publisher of scientific research. Well maybe Science qualifies for that, too. No evidence for globally coherent warm and cold periods over the preindustrial Common Era https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1401-2.epdf?sharing_token=q9PsC8RkGv3YL8yRPCDQ2tRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0OFAuvUf3smNPgQh_x6w3tkX-JXRoLf0zBLgBVwxe-KolOPDVVcajtao8b9HtkextpAX0RcP4MyZf8UC7psPM1wqrzHwqAYSFP4q8BzcVJ7qDVh672y1-WlRtqlGF2j61AlLsxqdIzQVAIthzGU3vU0xWUe4I38c8pajxdv7hQ4Y3mRahxdVoEhnbKnaiX8Ecc%3D&tracking_referrer=www.smithsonianmag.com Consistent multidecadal variability in global temperature reconstructions and simulations over the Common Era https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-019-0400-0.epdf?sharing_token=2fOrQ-ECCmhUfOVCVCB8GNRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0N7bTxBqLecWapiK43Tv3o5PzlP3yU4M1aQfVsGAWcU8noAkDghrrd3WpWY1at2CNvthjRJgrIikCzt9_TdrD95_Ejxa-zhvMLmAkzemrdvri_G_H12tPFNMZ58cOfORRlA4qjJOL71YLwjVlPo6qrKsPf3nAOSas5kdVddDzTyXZgCXhbRbIl9anZr2-rBfD4%3D&tracking_referrer=www.smithsonianmag.com

There's a lot of other great stuff in there including estimates of excess mortality.

In 2008 and 2010 it was the USA and the EU that screwed up the world economy and everyone paid. Was that fair dinkum? This kind of recklessness is not A practice exclusive to the Chinese.