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33 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Why is this even worth talking about? 200 people have something that has possibly killed one person in the whole world! 

Insanity

It's not just the medical side. UK chief medical officer stated that they are looking at the wider impact on services. If you have many people having to isolate, doctors, nurses, police, ambulance, fire etc, it can have a knock on effect on services. Estimated 1 in 35 people in London now have covid.

From what I hear a lot of bars are opening up anyway without a restaurant/food. The other problem they have as a Sandbox zone is how do you stop people leaving the area, it's not an island like Phuket or Samui.

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Wish we knew why Vietnam was the outlier in covid cases.  What is happening there and not elsewhere.

Maybe testing, Worldometers shows roughly 3 times tests to Thailand per capita but then deaths are lot higher, which could be down to many reasons, poorer medical care, less vaccination or case don't test and someone dies and is not post tested, never know. In my own view I struggle to believe figures from any country in full, many are under counted, some over counted. Does anyone believe China with 1 billion population only has 50-100 cases a day? Cambodia 3 a day like yesterday. Unless there was a defined criteria worldwide and all countries followed it to the letter I think it will be difficult to do direct comparison.

52 minutes ago, sapson said:

Uk had 100,000 cases in one day but Thailand total of about a 100 so far.

 

Clearly Anutin is using his magic powers to sustain a near Omicron virus immunity for Thailand, or could it just be that foolproof tried and not tested policy that sustains the the illusion?

Uk had 100k but not all Omicron variant I believe. It still isn't the dominant yet I believe.

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Khon Kaen province reports its first two Omicron cases

 

He told a press conference that the two cases are a married couple who live in another north-eastern province, Kalasin, who returned from a visit to Belgium on December 10th and entered minimal state quarantine, testing negative upon arrival.

 

After the brief quarantine, the couple returned to their hometown in Kalasin on a Thai Smile flight and were driven home from the airport in a relative’s car. On December 13th, both travelled to Khon Kaen to renew their passports at the provincial hall and returned to Kalasin by Khon Kaen-Mukdahan bus between 4.30pm and 6.30pm.

 

The governor also said that three days later the couple developed a fever and muscle pains and they were admitted to Kalasin hospital, where they tested positive for the Omicron variant of COVID-19.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/khon-kaen-province-reports-its-first-two-omicron-cases/

6 days from arriving in country until positive test, timelines seem to be getting longer, Chang Rai man was six or seven days, possible infection from Thailand?

5 hours ago, anchadian said:

Just over 100 Omicron cases detected in Thailand to date, more tests underway

 

The Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) confirmed today (Wednesday) that Thailand has detected a total of 104 Omicron cases to date, while 34 more COVID-19 infections among Test & Go arrivals have been found.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/just-over-100-omicron-cases-detected-in-thailand-to-date-more-tests-underway/

Interesting to know how many positives they are sequencing and is it just overseas arrivals or they checking homegrown positives too?

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Most Thais worried about Omicron during festive period, safety tips offered for celebrations

 

The Department of Health today (Wednesday) disclosed the result of an opinion survey, conducted by the department between December 1st and 20th, which shows 80% of the respondents are worried about coronavirus during the festive period, including 70% who are particularly concerned about the Omicron variant, which may spread as more people gather in groups for social gatherings and activities.

 

The research identified five types of location which may make people vulnerable to the spread of COVID-19 infections. They include entertainment venues, such as bars and pubs, 64.2%, tourist spots, 60.3%, markets, 48.4%, malls, 45% and public transports, 44%.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/most-thais-worried-about-omicron-during-festive-period-safety-tips-offered-for-celebrations/

They forgot one , big family get together or multiple persons meeting up in condos.

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is nice to see the Critical care cases and those on ventilators declining.  The deaths are also slowly dropping.  Wonder what the excess death rate is so far this year.

I also noticed deaths seem to be pretty constant over the last 2 weeks, somewhat different curve to infections. Would expect deaths to follow infection curve albeit with a couple weeks lag.

1 hour ago, Cherrytreeview said:

 

 

The reality outside SA.

And in London it is mostly the unvaccinated ending up in hospital, still over 1.5million people not vaccinated. Rumors and talk now of restricting things unvaccinated can do, same as Austria. 

7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

No new applications to be accepted? What does that mean for those already approved? Grandfathered in, or canceled.  If canceled that leaves a lot of people in a major quandary. Life is very tenuous for those of us that have scheduled flights to return etc....

Probably have to pay out for 7 day quarantine.

10 minutes ago, anchadian said:

[BREAKING] Local news are reporting that the government has approved of GETTING RID of TEST AND GO for arrivals to combat the spread of Omicron. Details to follow about what quarantine procedures we can expect.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1473204235751727109

 

#BREAKING: Thai PM

@prayutofficial

is revoking the (nearly) quarantine scheme for arriving travelers effective TODAY amidst the #Omicron variant. No new applications for the “Thailand Pass” will be accepted now.

 

https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1473204776649183232

 

 

 

 

 

Hospitality 'We might salvage something of this year's high season.' Prayut 'Pass me the hammer and nails , time to seal this coffin until next year.'

3 hours ago, peter zwart said:

ic's didnt exactly flooded

I presume you mean ICU's. Just under 900 critical in Thailand, roughly same as UK from what I can see on Worldometers. Extrapolate from that what you want. You could view it as Thailand real situation of infection the same, or currently not as bad due to lower levels of vaccination and lesser quality vaccines for a lot of people who were jabbed early. All I can hope is Thailand ramps up it's vaccination again. I believe it's not just people in hospital that worries the science boffs, it's the medical staff who could be forced to isolate due to catching the Omicron variant, thus leaving a lot less staff to look after people in hospital. We saw the effect of that in UK. In construction we started to run low on materials due to factories etc reducing production from lack of staff due to isolation. Getting a bit off subject now so leave it there.

41 minutes ago, peter zwart said:

As i do believe that a country as Thailand will be less hit by the virus due to wheater conditions and less fysical contact, im realy curious what Omicron will do.

I believe Thailand will be less hit because of the aversion to testing.

5 hours ago, Daithi85 said:

Must be doing a great job of hiding all the sick people then. Amazing how people on here seem to begrudge Thailand doing well.life goes on here in Thailand while  the western world is going back into lockdowns. Maybe other countries should follow suit and stop testing so many  people causing unesecery panic...

Example if UK only tested those sick enough to turn up at hospital it'd only have maybe 900-1000 cases a day, everything would be rosy, but the other 90k odd would be fuelling the spread unknown. I truly believe Thai government has no true idea of the spread in Thailand of covid, just rely on clusters popping up to find it.

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Yes it used to be one of the main boasts when it first kicked off that “if we had the same type of problem as other countries then there would be hospital beds out on the streets” 

 

 Then it was the infection numbers that were wrong and being covered up and we can only rely on the death numbers as they are harder to conceal. Once they started to fall then of course they were also false and being covered up and easy to manipulate. 
 

The latest is to represent deaths in the UK as being caused by Omicron when there is no evidence yet that any of the seven  were caused by Omicron, only that they died with Omicron. Not surprisingly, the UK Government despite promising otherwise, has still not published the real cause of the first death after six days, his age, or his vaccination status although a supposed relative of the deceased claimed he was in his 70s and not vaccinated. 
 

No doubt Thailand will see a wave come soon and I’m sure the pencils are already being sharpened in anticipation. 
 

 

Regardless of deaths from Omicron the Sadiq Kahn, mayor of London said in an interview that majority of people ending up in hospital are those not vaccinated. This may be the problem when Omicron hits Thailand as a lot of vaccinations are with the Chinese junk or a mixture of them and AZ. Already known that AZ double dose not sufficient after 100 days hence the big push in the UK to get everyone boosted with Pfizer ASAP. Thai needs to ramp up it vaccination again I'd say, and quick, they done it before, but need to get the right vaccines. See they are still pushing the cocktail for jabs in January, may have worked with Delta but time will tell if it does the job with Omicron.

2 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

You gather wrong. A correct restaurant licence has to be applied for, paid for and pass appropriate inspections.

I was aware of that, just lazy to write. From photos I've seen from friends it seems a lot of drinking going on but not much food. Just one small dish and carryon drinking. I'm sure all the bars, sorry, restaurants, are adhering to the two hour visit rule????. 

From what I've gathered any bar that can knock up some chicken wings and register as restaurant can open.