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8 hours ago, Virt said:

If they start testing so much that they hit 10% positive PCR tests and 90% negative, we will have a more accurate daily number of positives.

 

Getting it down to 5% will be even better, but 10 % is a start.

Shhhh. Don't look, don't find, nothing to see here, everything good. Just wait for the sick to come to us.

Two words in my mind, unbelievable or Miracle.

Make the rules but won't enforce them, TIT

3 hours ago, Guderian said:

Happy days, and long may they last, but I have a feeling this might just be the calm before the next Covid storm.  ????

If Thailand does not see a fourth wave of covid they need to bottle whatever they're doing and sell it to the rest of the World.

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

It is nonsense. My son's school reopened with ATK tests required etc, but after 2 weeks there was one positive test, and now the whole school is back to online learning until the end of term on 17 December! Crazy.

Just for comparison to schooling in UK. My daughter's class, 3 children with covid. One sits next to my daughter plus other cases in other classes of her year. Pupils now use separate gate to other years for access and don't mix with other years at break time. Daughter doing LFT/ATK every day, on 9th day now and all negatives. Minimal disruption to their learning and sensible measures at the school. Children who are off get online work to do if they are well enough. Children are the future of countries and it's vital that education carries on. They have missed far too much schooling over the past 2 years. 

6 hours ago, samtam said:

I'm trying to understand what I perceive as an apparent misalignment between the high percentage of Bangkok residents being fully vaccinated, and the stubbornly high numbers of new cases found in Bangkok on a daily basis.

 

Yesterday's number showed Bangkok with 778 new cases, (the highest number within cities in the kingdom).

 

Yes, I know vaccinated people still catch Covid, (and maybe we're about to find out that vaccinated people will catch the Omicron variant with ease), but I imagined you would expect to see a more dramatic drop off in cases, as the percentage of fully vaccinated increased to something in the region of 95%. Daily cases have remained at around the 800 level for several weeks.

 

Are the statistics faulty, or is the daily reporting of new cases becoming much less relevant? Possibly Omicron has been in Thailand, (and indeed many countries), for a longer period than anyone knows.

Do you truly believe there's just 7-800 cases a day in a population of 7-8 million in Bangkok. I believe the only people getting PCR now are people who end up at hospital through sickness. ATK are not counted in the official numbers and then I very much doubt a lot of the ATK positive are reported at all . UK 80%+ double vac and still 40k plus a day. That's the figures you get when doing mass testing of 1 million odd a day. How many tests is Thai doing? Not easy to find that info now, smoke and mirrors. Chonburi 100-200 a day but yet recently telling people who went to Pattaya music festival to get an ATK as, and in official words, there has been a high number of infections linked to the event. I, like yourself cannot understand why there is just 7-800 cases a day in Bangkok, I suspect it's higher personally.

So going by his statement have they only sequenced 83 samples since 1st November and then only incoming "tourists". No information on how many home grown cases they are sequencing. Chances are it's probably already in the population, they just haven't detected it yet. This is the risk of low testing numbers, you just don't know what's out there.

2 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

This new Variant of Covid , which is now called " Omicron ", has now been detected in the UK with a couple of cases, and more worrying is that there appears to be several people on a KLM flight to the Netherlands that have the virus.

There are Two big take outs from this.

The first is that Countries which are testing in large numbers , are finding the new Variant very quickly.

And Secondly, If this is correct, then this thing is extremely Transmissible, as it only came to the surface on 9th November, and seems to be not only contained to the South of the African Continent already in 20 Days.

As for those Countries that are not testing in large numbers ?

Well, the Jury is out on that one, but its a fair guess they will get cases very, very soon, and thats if they dont already have them.

Fair point, don't test enough, don't find the cases, cannot sequence the virus to find out its genome. Don't know if the figures out there for Thailand's genome sequencing tests. Pretty sure it's low number compared to some other countries.

Totally different to a scenario I am aware of. Not going to name place but restaurant, 2 staff positive, all staff took ATK which negative, carry on working, test again in five days. I suspect this is going under the radar so as not to lose business, face, customers. I personally know 2 who work there. The above is standard in UK now. Only difference is if you are close contact you have to ATK every day for 7-10 days AFAIA.

I agree with a lot of posters, it's down to an officials interpretation the law. Remember this is the land of brown envelopes. From personal experience I can tell you what the law and official line is isn't always what happens. I had to use the threat of involving the UK consulate to get my passport back once. Remember you are a foreign visitor in Thailand and if you weren't here something wouldn't have happened. Eg, motor accident your fault even if not as if you hadn't been here on holiday the accident wouldn't have happened. A lot of things in Thailand seem illogical to foreigners but that's life in Thai.

4 hours ago, anchadian said:

Covid numbers not spiking three weeks after reopening

 

It has been three weeks since the country reopened to vaccinated tourists and there has been no spike in the number of daily Covid cases, according to data released by the Centre for Covid-19 Situation (CCSA) on Tuesday.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/35219/covid-numbers-not-spiking-three-weeks-after-reopening/

Was never going to be visitors to the country causing any spike. What has opened internally that's different from pre November 1st?

7 hours ago, anchadian said:

Thailand speeds up vaccination with aim to achieve 100 million administered doses by month’s end

 

With the government having set a new COVID-19 vaccination target to see 100 million doses administered by the end of November, the prime minister has asked all parties to encourage people to come forth to receive their shots.

 

At least 86.8 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in Thailand, leaving 11-12 million doses remaining until the new target is met.

 

https://www.pattayamail.com/coronavirus/thailand-speeds-up-vaccination-with-aim-to-achieve-100-million-administered-doses-by-months-end-380110

Watch the figures miraculously jump to about million plus a day from 6-700k as it has been recently. The great one has spoken so it must be achieved.

15 hours ago, anchadian said:

The CCSA has refused TAT’s request to change PCR testing on arrival to the quicker and cheaper ATK testing. Meanwhile, Cambodia has now dropped quarantine and PCR testing for vaccinated arrivals making it more attractive to international holidaymakers

 

https://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/cambodia-waive-quarantine-requirements-nov-15-no-pcr-test-required

What do you expect from Thailand, no money to be made with ATK unlike PCR and one night in hotel. They view the ATK sufficient for Thai population but not foreigners. TIT

It's ok, they weren't foreigners who have gone through the circus of paperwork and testing. Nothing to see here, move along.

Won't be returning there if that is still enforced if and when I return, their loss. Keep going with the self-inflicted destruction.

Bangkok population 7 million or more, less than 1000 cases a day, someone telling porkies me thinks if they're worried.

6 hours ago, edwinchester said:

My daughter's school was due to open  next Monday but that's been cancelled. She's 4 and we live in Kanchanaburi.

I can sympathise with the schools worrying about unvaccinated kids being a breeding ground for the virus as the schools my grandkids attend back in the UK are being swept by covid.

Vaccinated persons can be a breeding ground for covid. Vaccine reduces the chance of transmission but not eliminate it. Get all the adults, vulnerable and people with underlying conditions done first.

1 hour ago, FalangJaiDee said:

I feel the need to stir the pot. Does anyone else believe this is a DELIBERATE effort to kill the red-light venues, as an indirect way to actualize the xenophobia of the current “administration.” They hate foreigners, they want them out, and this is an effective way to do it without overtly declaring so; similar to the retirement alterations 

 

There is no other logic behind these specific closures, considering that places like tree town are blatantly selling alcohol and the place is packed with people every night. there is no logic in closing open air bars if this is allowed max

I was coming to similar conclusion. In my view 2 scenarios, the first as you say to kill off the bar/Gogo/clubs. The second is the actual covid situation is worse than they are reporting.

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

.... is it dawning on the authorities that those who’ve been ripped off by Taxi’s and Jet-ski mafia are unlikely to return so they want fresh-meat ???? 

Exactly, first timers easier to scam.