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16 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

In the meantime in Phuket had almost 30.000 dose left over in April and got 200.000new doses .. and that for already doomed to fail open for tourist island. Impossible to send 6.000 doses to Hua Hin??

And Phuket only needs about another 4-500k doses to reach the 70% target in 4 weeks.

Pitiful, 500 per day.

2 hours ago, jojothai said:

IMHO Its the here and now that matters. Why not give Thailand its proper status in Covid cases?

Now Number 5 on the daily new cases. Even above India.

Its been heading up the charts very well recently.
Another upward lurch and they will get to no 3.
Could they be poised to claim the number 1 spot soon?

 

 

You have to wait until 23hrs GMT to get the true picture, the world runs on 24 time zones, e.g. Uk isn't going to report it's numbers at mid-day Thai time. Plus some countries numbers are drip fed due to individual state/province reporting methods.

7 hours ago, Caneda said:

All from a long time ago.

Yes and the bars and clubs have been shut, open them up again then and see what happens and maybe shut them down again in a couple of months, just like we kept doing in the UK.

5 hours ago, rott said:

There are (or were) a lot of bars in Central Pattaya and no reports of any infections. Plenty at markets. 

Doesn't prove anything, just a fact. 

So the timelines stating certain bars, nightclubs, published by Chonburi were incorrect.

1. Club Insomnia Pattaya on Walking Street Road on April 7^th from midnight to 2:00 A.M..
2.  

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/04/13/pattaya-and-banglamung-informs-people-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-confirmed-chonburi-covid-19-cases-2/

1. People infected with COVID-19 From other entertainment venues:
   2.1 Cetus Pattaya, 3 cases
   2.2 Bone Pattaya, 1 case
   2.3 The Box 69, Pattaya, 3 cases
   2.4 Garden 168, amount 3 people
   2.5 Insomnia Pattaya, 1 person
   2.6 Infinity Siracha, 4 cases
   2.7 Replay Bang Saen 3 cases
   2.8 Entertainment venues in Bangkok, 4 cases

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/04/14/99-new-confirmed-covid-19-cases-in-chonburi-today-says-public-health-department/

4 hours ago, bolt said:

from Tourism website dated 31st May

So that's probably 450000 doses to administer in 30 days, we'll wait and see?

13 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:

"commits to" ? So what was in all those trucks seen rolling out of the production facility? Or was that just another PR exercise?

Exactly, crates could have been empty, training the the workers day?

1.8 million, about 5 days supply at the rate Thailand needs to vaccinate at to reach the end of year target set by the PM.

3 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Sooo, you don’t have any proof, you just made it up on your own?

 

just trying to ascertain whether you have verified information that it would be good for me to have, or making stuff up based on your layman’s knowledge

Haven't any links but remember the UK's virologists saying in their public briefings, the more infections you have, the higher chance of mutations occuring, the lower the infections, the lower the chance if mutations occuring.

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The Thai authorities have said the numbers in Chonburi are going down. Do you disagree with them?

But it has coincided with less testing over the past few days, just a statement.

I notice in Chonburi the past couple of days testing has almost halved. Previously they were saying they tested about 2000 a day, now for the past few days it's dropped to about 1000 odd.

8 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

BANGKOK (NNT) - The Minister of Justice has asked Deputy Prime Minister Anutin Charnvirkul for COVID-19 vaccines to halt the fast rising infection rate in prisons

No need in Chiang Mai prison anymore I believe.

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

For starters, for the record, anyone who thinks they could or should be able to resume their "normal" life -- which I take to mean begin ignoring COVID safety measures -- just because they've received a single vaccine dose is simply wrong and ill-informed.

 

That said, there is an argument to be made that in places/countries where there's a shortage of available vaccines such as Thailand, it may be better to try to get first vaccine doses into as many people as possible first, before then moving on to second doses.

 

That approach is rooted in the understanding that even a first dose only is going to provide a reasonable level of protection against serious COVID illness and death, with some vaccines doing better in that regard than others. And also, some emerging research that shows vaccine effectiveness can be improved with longer intervals until the second dose.

 

But obviously, people will get the most protection out of whatever vaccine they're being given once they've received the second dose. And even then, especially when many in the public remain unvaccinated, it's still best if everyone at least for the timebeing continues to practice COVID safety measures.

 

Think it can be said for Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson or AZ for first dose but I believe from what I read that Sinovac gives very low protection from 1 dose and gets it's big boost from the second dose. If they plan to plough on with the foremost vaccines all good, much the same as the UK did for 4 months before concentrating on second dose. If with bulk Sinovac, not such good a plan. And if people believe one dose is good enough and it is been promoted by the officials then doesn't that come into the realms of "fake vaccine news"?

2 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Statistically, I believe it’s right to say that most infections happen at home between close relatives. Not much mask wearing there.

 

but masks aren’t 100% protection anyway, they just help.

 

in Thailand you may have read about big clusters of cases in prisons, constructions sites and factories. I have no proof, but I would suspect that mask wearing was a pretty patchy practice at a lot of them.

 

so masks are not THE answer. They are part of an answer, assuming that the question is “how to stop virus infections”.

You are correct, masks when you have to come into close contact with others such as food shopping and other essential services. Also need to avoid meeting/mixing with people you don't have to such as meeting friends for catch up/drink, etc. If the epidemiologists had their way everyone would be isolated, that's the only way to stop virus in it's tracks.

19 minutes ago, Mises said:

Maybe, but the graphs are facts which is why YouTube have not removed it.

The predictions of deaths in the graph were probably assumed on full uptake of vaccinations. There are too many variables and unless all are listed you cannot make a comparison. You have to take into account uptake, rate of vaccinations, were lockdowns and other restrictions still in place? May be the reported figures but as seen everywhere reported figures are not always necessarily the true reflection of the situation.

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

In Real Life, the number of new infections per day peaked at about 2800 last month (outside of the prisons), and has not exceeded that by 10% since then. New infections move in a narrow band in a random walk, and have for the last month.

 

You can try to gaslight people about an imminent catastrophe but not many will believe you.

So I ask you a question if you can answer it. How many new people are been tested everyday. Is it 10000, 20000, 30000? This is crucial to understanding the situation. If I test 10000 and get 3000 positives, that is a high rate. If I test 50000 people and get 3000, gives a much lower rate. And I don't mean number of tests, number of new people.

1 hour ago, robblok said:

What i don't get is that the press is not over these numbers. With these low amounts they will never reach 70% on time. Each and every day they do only 110.000 they will have to catch up 390.000 jabs. (and my 500k per day is just for first jabs). 

So why isnt the press burning them down for having goals that are never going to be reached ?

Answer is they're not allowed to publish criticism like that, emergency decree gives the PM overall control on covid reporting I believe.

Sure there's bonus given to the officials who come up with the most ludicrous ideas.

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Over the last few days, they did more than 100,000 tests.

But how many new people were tested, not the number of tests?