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Petey11
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2 hours ago, placeholder said:
If random testing is done via a sufficiently large and representative sample, you don't need to test huge amounts of people.
Think that's most of thailands proactive testing is aimed at cluster areas which have been identified through hospital walk -in, therefore they are always chasing clusters after they have formed, by which time the infection has already spread substantially.
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3 hours ago, RobMuir said:
Oh, ok, seems to be working well with less than 2,000 dead.
And all those tests have killed 125,000+ in the UK.
If someone dies at home out in the provinces is a doctor called to certify death, are the police called to rule out foul play. If someone dies and has not been tested for covid but has pneumonia symptoms does it go down as pneumonia or covid?
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34 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:The article on that link has since been updated. It now says the report of a postponement till August 1 has not been confirmed and they are still planning for a July 1 re-opening.
Update, the update of the updated decision will be updated when someone decides to make a decision about the updates.
Cleared that up then
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24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
The Social Security Office has suspended vaccination services at 45 centres in Bangkok, from today (Friday) until June 27th, after four days in operation, for improvements of services
A good system would only have people queuing for maybe 10-15m, not long periods.
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11 minutes ago, RobMuir said:If people show symptoms or have had contact with the infected they are tested.
Or are you saying that random people showing no symptoms should line up and get tested?
Have you been tested? If not, why not?
It's pretty much a given that testing numbers are abysmal in Thailand pro-rata population. In the UK I myself have tested 3 times.
And what about asymptomatic people or pre-symptomatic cases.
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41 minutes ago, RobMuir said:
No they back traced the Kent strain which proved it originated in the UK.
The Thai strain was proven to come from Egypt.
I will stick with the facts.
Where are you from Pete?
From UK. I wasn't aware of that info so stand corrected. Do you have a link to that research?
In my opinion though the changing to the Greek alphabet to name strains was politically motivated and seemed to coincide with Thai authorities kicking up a fuss when the Thai/Egypt strain surfaced after India complained about the strain identified in their country. Saving face kicked in?
There are thousands of mutations occuring I believe, it's only when a significant or worrying one is identified does it hit the Media.
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1 hour ago, RobMuir said:1 hour ago, RobMuir said:
What do you want me and billions of others to call the Kent UK strain?
The Spanish flu?
It is what it is. Burying your head in the sand won't help. I see you don't object to the Indian strain, so I don't think you are from India, or the South African or Brazilian strain, but only the British strain being talked about.
Let me guess.
Anyway it is the English strain as the Thais call it, that is causing all the deaths here.
How does that make you feel?
What about the Thai strain, the Thai authorities objected to it been called that, saying it came from Egypt. It's where it was discovered by sequencing, in Thailand. The Kent strain was discovered in Kent, could have originated anywhere, possibly Europe.
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Maybe they tote these sealed routes so as to prevent tourists catching covid. Can you imagine tourists travelling outside a controlled area and coming down with covid, it would be " but, but, but, your figures showed no covid infections in that area...."
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Dissent is what he'd worried about I think. Can't be the fake need, his health minister is the master of that.
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Exactly same problem was driving me nuts, no info at all when googled. As some said, FB very quiet about it, maybe someone spoke of maybe blocking FB in a certain country.
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Bangkok is a cluster, just sounds better to describe it as lots of little clusters.
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3 hours ago, Cake Monster said:
There is a real need to increase testing, specially in locations that have been prone to outbreaks in the past.
However this is Thailand, and the chances of the Government spending any more on testing is Nil.
All these new " Clusters ", which in reality are just the same outbreak, makes me wonder if all the " Home Isolation " people and the workers confined to their Factories, are added into the Daily figures.
There seem to be a lot of new outbreaks on a Daily basis, yet there are no more than the predictable 2000 ish number of new cases every Day
Think it is clear by now that daily cases are limited by numbers tested. Yesterday just over 5000 PUI reported for Sunday and daily PUI nearly always in the 9-13k range. Yesterday Chonburi testing dropped to 714 in total including 227 testing of known contacts. If testing stays roughly the same and numbers roughly the same this could go on for months like this, with clusters continually popping up once the limited testing identifies them by default and not looking for them.
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28 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:
These figures are alarmingly small what story is not being told here????
The story of those with mild covid who are not turning up at hospital to be tested. If home quarantine/isolation was accepted and adequate support provided for those who have to do it then you'd probably see more people coming forward for testing. Today's new PUI's, just over 5000.
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3 hours ago, BostonRob2 said:Great start and set to be 500k to a million a day within a week or two. Must be horrific reading for TV's army of keyboard warriors and Thai bashers. I predict they will now take their fury out on Koh Tao or why digital nomads are being favored over poor retirees!
Not all TV commentators are Thai bashers, some of us are realists. I sincerely hope they reach 500000 a day vaccinations, the Thai population deserve that efficiency after the shambles leading up to now.
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5 hours ago, Forza2002 said:
According to TAT Newsroom they only managed to give 27,000 jabs yesterday. I guess they are not working so much on a Sunday. Unfortunately CV19 doesn't have days off.. https://www.tatnews.org/2021/06/thailand-covid-19-situation-as-of-7-june-2021-12-30-hrs-2/
Maybe saving vaccines for today so good figures on first day?
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Good job they've had months to plan this roll out????
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30 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
6% of infections found with the Indian variant in 10 Provinces. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/indian-covid-19-variant-found-in-235-people-in-10-of-thailands-provinces/
In UK took just a couple of weeks for the Indian variant to become dominant, superceding the Kent variant.
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Just read in a BP news item, one poor lady waited for 4 days at a covid testing location before she got tested, positive result, died 5 days later and her husband is still in hospital. Adequate testing been carried out I think not.
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2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
Although Bangkok is a mess, the rest of the country is seeing the wave recede. Outside of the prisons, that is.
I would bet money that this wave will effectively end before 70% of the population is vaccinated.
So what will they do, open up other provinces and put the barbed wire around Bangkok to prevent people travelling to other areas that are open?
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5 hours ago, Lemonltr said:
Please look to similar population Britain. Been there T shirt etc. In January a daily death record of 1.820 people. Yes 1 day. Now after 65.000.000 mainly AZ jab there are usually single figure deaths. Recent rise in cases to 5 or 6.000 owing to the rapid grabbing of 80% of cases by the very infectious Indian variant. So do vaccines work??
Testing around 800.000 per day. Plus 2 free self test kits per person weekly. At around 38 deaths in Thailand its sure that testing in paltry. These figures can easily be confirmed by googling "public health England covid daily report.
Think the free lateral flow has no restrictions, just recommended you test every 3 days, but can test everyday if you want. When I ordered mine in the email it just said order more when you are nearly out of them, and they turn up within 48hrs.
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4 minutes ago, phills2k1 said:
It’s scary how many people likely think that because the (announced) numbers are constant, things can open up more, while completely ignoring the fact that as soon as that happens, things turn dire and never come back
Reported numbers would probably still hover around 2000-3000 unless they increased number of people tested. PUI numbers per day have been pretty constant between 10000-140000 for days now. Thailand's idea of mass testing is , as I read on another news forum who cannot be linked, to set up a testing station for 3 days with capability of max 500 per day.
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Cannot work out why they don't digitiser the system and put on computer. When I visited Laos my visa was on computer. Simple.
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It's quarantine Jim but not as we know it.
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Thailand reports 3,355 new COVID-19 cases, 17 new deaths
in Thailand News
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I wonder if all medical workers are been regularly tested for covid at least once a week, preferably twice a week?