Danderman123

It's the proof behind the consensus that matters.

You can pontificate about what is reality, but you can't explain why the Stratosphere is cooling.

You agree that human produced greenhouse gases are warming the planet?

So, why is the Stratosphere cooling? Why are the Deniers unable to answer this simple question?

CO2 is a known greenhouse gas which traps heat in the lower atmosphere. This is indisputable. The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing. This is indisputable. Human produced CO2 accounts for most of this increase. Again, indisputable. The planet is warming. Indisputable. Therefore, human produced CO2 is warming the planet. Indisputable. Now you can argue against the consensus that sex causes pregnancy.

Why is the Stratosphere cooling? You cannot explain why, because you don't understand any of this. You are just here to sow doubt about climate change.

You would have to show that the scientific proof itself was false. There was no scientific process that determined that the Earth was flat. Now you Deniers are attacking the concept of scientific consensus, rather than the proof itself, because you cannot attack the proof.

You ignore the reality that the scientific concensus is based on proof. And you ignore the proof. Instead you waste our time with abstract arguments.

Actually, no. There were uneducated people who thought the Earth was flat, just as there are uneducated people now who don't believe in climate change.

Human induced climate change has been proven. You are simply unable to accept that, just as Flat Earthers cannot accept the scientific consensus that the Earth isn't flat. So, let me ask you the standard question: why is the Stratosphete cooling?

You're not even trying now. The link above describes the process of measuring stratosphere temperatures, and the measurements themselves, but not why there is a cooling trend.

There is consensus that the Earth is not flat. Deal with that argument.

classic trolling manuever there. I will ignore it. Your own link demonstrates that rising levels of CO2 are warming the planet.

There is plenty of proof. You just don't understand it.

Nope. The blog post says nothing to contest the known fact that the Stratosphere is cooling because rising levels of CO2 trap heat in the Troposphere, so the heat does not rise up to the Stratosphere. That CO2 is increasing due to human activities.

Let's recap the bidding: I asked you why the Stratosphere is cooling, and you replied with a link stating that the Stratosphere is cooling because CO2 traps heat in the Troposphere that normally would rise up to the Stratosphere. Therefore, CO2, which is at record levels, due to human production, is warming the Troposphere. It's not increased solar activity that is warming the planet. Thanks for playing.

Actually, the Earth has been cooling since the Interglacial Maximum some 8000 years ago. But the current warming is problematic because the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere implies much more warming to come. Your position is akin to a frog in a pot of water over a hot stove saying "this is nothing!"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(consultant) "In 2006, he disagreed with the scientific consensus on climate change in a letter to the Royal Society, arguing there was "no scientific proof" that mankind was causing global climate change and believes that it "has a much better correlation with changes in solar activity than CO2 levels". He has falsely claimed that there is no scientific evidence that carbon dioxide contributes to climate change." In other words, he is clueless about the role of CO2 in causing climate change, and is just making stuff up.

Just because you posted a link doesn't mean that you understand or agree with the linked content. Could you provide a brief summary of the explanation for Stratospheric cooling? If not, can you tell us if you agree with the findings in that link?

in the sense that resarchers apply to foundations for funds to conduct research, and papers are the result of that research, the patrons are pleased. Unless the papers do not survive peer review, or errors are uncovered. The oil industry funds scientists who scrutinize papers about climate change, rarely finding errors. If a scientist could disprove the Global Warming hypothesis, they would become very wealthy. No luck for them so far, the scientific consensus remains behind Climate Change. Except for some oddballs and lunatics.

Meanwhile, tropical storms are now hitting Southern California, Indonesia has to move its capitol because Jakarta is sinking, glaciers are disappearing, all of this must be a big surprise to you.

How does the Sun cool the Stratosphere? Are you saying that solar output is declining? If so, why is Earth warming?

I took my house in the US off the grid. I have solar panels outside my condo here. No car, no moto. Take mass transportation when possible. Have a nice day.

The reverse is kind of true: relatively few Farangs use Facebook, so much so that its common for Thai ladies to post about their adventures with no worries that their Farang "boyfriends" will see them. For a lot of Farangs, its LINE only.

You care so little about global warming that you make long posts about how little you care.