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Seems like it. There's no crater. Buildings around the parking lot not damaged much. Cars burnt, but not mangled, or torn apart.

No similarities. There's no talk or intention of long term deployment in Israel. No need to, as well. The situation is quite different.

I don't think anyone claims Hamas intentionally hit the hospital. The claim is that the explosion was caused by a misfired rocket launched by the Islamic Jihad. Hamas covering for them, and going for easy PR points. There were some 400 rockets failing to properly launch, exploding, falling short of target (including within the Gaza Strip). Same thing on each and every of the previous fighting rounds between Israel and Hamas/Islamic Jihad. There was not a shred of evidence provided by Hamas to support claims.

As far as I recall, these are marines specifically trained for quick intervention. Don't think it's for extra intimidation effect, but maybe more to do with a situation US citizen need to be pulled out of Gaza etc. Or Hamas getting into the notion of raiding a US ship. The main reason for the US Navy deployment is to provide extra deterrence, so that other players (Hezbollah, Iran) may consider before doing anything rash.

False narrative, again. Bending facts as suits.

Again with them insinuations. You have no proof. You have nothing but bias. And yet your build mountains of assumptions, often stated as fact, as to Israel Bad. The official meeting was cancelled. If you imagine things will not be discussed - either on lower level pay grade, or remotely - then again, your choice.

That's your take, but it does not conform with how international law works. Firing indiscriminately on civilians is a war crime. Hamas rockets are not guided, hence.... The IDF mostly uses guided (to various degree and level of precision) armaments. That can be acceptable as long as other parameters are kept. I would guess only some of the sorties and bombing missions flown could actually be successfully shown to be war crimes. People minimizing Hamas rockets ought to give being under fire a try. The insistence on coupling the 'no-warning' and all 6000 bombs dropped by Israel is false.

Technically and legally yes, in effect no.

The use of civilians as 'human shields' is a war crime. The one making excuses is yourself.

Here?

Let's not make disingenuous, out-of-touch-with-reality comments. There's a very clear history of how these things go.

Assuming it was an IDF bombing is a choice. Assuming it was deliberate is nonsense. Not with Biden already on his way over. Not with the way this war (and past instances) is conducted. You're pushing a false narrative. As for the '5 figure' comment, I don't think countries and armies bent on genocide tend to much about or take their time. But again, that's part of the false narrative you adopted, so doubt common sense would make a dent in your bias.

I don't think all them 6000 bombs were dropped on 'residencies', though. At least not footage and reports available. Granted, many were - but that's expected when fighting a terrorist organization embedded within civilian population. I will point point out that the bomb per casualty ratio does not indicate quite the intentions or motivations implied. The hospital bombing is not proven to be Israel's doing, so far.

The claim that it was an IDF bombing is made by Hamas. Do you see Hamas as a reliable source?

What is factually known is that there was an explosion at a hospital, resulting in mass casualties. As far as I'm aware, Hamas did not provide any proof it was an Israeli attack. There's bound to be something - video footage, bomb shrapnel, or even a crater where the explosion supposedly happen. From what I've seen, there's none of that offer. On the other hand, Hamas was able, within the hour, announce 500 deaths. There is no way they could have actually cleared and counted bodies, verified death, care for the wounded and so on within an hour. This part was obviously dodgy and PR move, rather than fact based. Now, as for Israel deliberately doing this - slim chances. Not policy, and a bad move with Biden exactly on the way. Perfect timing for Hamas to blame Israel for it, though. Then again, it could have been an error, a mistake, whatever. Could be. But in the many times Israel bombed the Gaza Strip over the years, there weren't actually many times hospitals were directly hit - and that with thousands (maybe more?) of sorties flown. So again, slim chances. Israel claims the explosion was the result of an Islamic Jihad rocket misfiring, exploding prematurely, dropping on the hospital etc. While some of the usual suspects will have trouble accepting it, this happens all the time. On each and every occasion the Palestinians fire rockets at Israel, a significant number malfunctions, sometimes with very bad results. Last time Israel and the Islamic Jihad had a go, about 300 rockets misfired. During the present situation, the last figure I saw was 400. It's expected that Arab countries will automatically embrace the Palestinian narrative on this, nothing new there - and even if it turns out Israel's claim is true, most won't budge. Some posters on here the same, probably. So far, it would seem that Western countries are more reasonable about this, waiting for findings and facts. I'll add that at least as far as the USA and the UK go, they have enough surveillance assets in place to get a clearer picture of what happened. This underscores (again) the issue of Hamas being embedded within its own civilian population, while denying them any protection (as in bomb shelters, or launching in a manner less risky for Gazans). Further, it is not unknown for Hamas and the Islamic Jihad to use hospitals and schools as storage facilities ('caught' at it by UNRWA even, on the previous round), place rocket launchers nearby and so on. Somehow, even though that's a clear violation of them international laws some here tend to disregard, minimize or excuse it. I'd say wait and see, but expected that regardless of facts, the meme will stick.

I doubt there were serious claims Hamas intentionally did this. References to Palestinian responsibility were associated with malfunction, making this accidental. Hamas does, however, benefit from the death of Gazans , at least on the PR front. The cynicism is quite blatant considering Hamas attempts to convince Gazans to stay in harm's way , or not providing them with shelters - never mind starting this mess knowing the consequences. And one liners that say there's a lot more to it than that, usually indicate the poster doesn't actually have a clue or insight regarding the comment responded to.

Says you? So how would you define the Hamas attack on Israel?

I'm suggesting that it won't be long before you'll be whining about being called an anti-Semite. Jews, believe it or not, have differing views regarding Israel, and they are not all that shy expressing it. Israeli Jews as well, have many among them who disapprove of government policy or even identify with the Palestinians' plight. What you're trying to deflect is that Al Jazeera is state-owned and controlled. The state have policies related to Hamas and the Gaza Strip (hosting leaders, funding). A state can have a coherent or even unified political and foreign policy. Whole religions, not so much.

That Arab and Muslim nations immediately embrace the Palestinian narrative is not surprising. If this was taken up by Western Governments it would be more interesting. So far, they exhibit a more cautious approach - which IMO is fine. So far, there was nothing provided as support by the Hamas to bolster claims. See comment about AJ in previous post above.

You can think what you like. On matters ME, at least those which relate to the interests of Qatar, the reporting is very obviously controlled and takes sides. Similarly, Al Jazeera does not do much by way of investigative reporting where Qatar is directly concerned, or on anything that might put it in a bad light. It's an ok source, for some news, not all and not on all topics. And that was AlJazeera's English Edition. The Arabic one is a different story - less need to keep pretenses or standards. Most of the Arab World follows the Arab Edition, obviously. Qatar hosts top Hamas leaders for years now. Also provides major funding to the Gaza Strip. You want to paint it as balanced, objective, non-biased and so forth, that's your choice. Then again, facts don't seem to phase you much anyway.

If Israel was bent on killing Palestinian civilians, the death toll would be, at the very least in the 5 figure range and upwards.

More loaded comments. And 'united' how? In condemnation? That's expected regardless of facts. Anything more tangible? Doubtful.

Other than yourself deciding it was deliberate, anything to support this with? Any concrete proof if was Israel that bombed the hospital? It's fine regurgitating Hamas announcements communicated by AlJazeera, but that's not proof.

They did not actually said they'd accept Israel. Not in the way you implied.

How about Hamas and Islamic Jihad leaders? Or have you decided the outcome already?