Morch

Maybe they should consult your imaginary Rabbi.

Snuff addiction.

That's no answer. People (including civilians) die in wars all the time. There's no wholesale labeling of it as 'terrorism', though. Targeting civilians is one thing, what Israel does is another.

It would depend on the composition of such a coalition government. I do not expect a swiping change with regard to policy regarding the Palestinians, but nothing like the support illegal settlers in the West Bank get under the current government etc. It would be naive, at best, to expect major concession following the Hamas attack. In this sense, it set back Palestinians prospects (slim as they were). It's quite easy to hold all-or-nothing views from afar. I don't think all, or even most Palestinians subscribe to this notion. Most Gazans would probably embrace how things were just a couple of weeks back, and maybe if given a choice, not support their leadership's decision to attack.

What is it you think Israel is about to do? How is it different? A lot worse in terms of destruction and loss of life, yes - but that's not different, but more. Your Hezbollah reference has nothing to do with my comment. I referred Israel-in-Lebanon with regards to the pressure and criticism applied to Egypt and Jordan. The outcome is nothing to do with it. Hezbollah was present the second time around, and similar criticism vs. these two countries was expressed.

One lesson (which I doubt would be learned) is not to go for populist freedom limiting legislation etc. - already some right wing initiatives in the works.

You seem to expect Israel not to.

I believe you protest too much.

Discussed and explained previously on this topic (or one of the parallel ones). Not illegal in all situation, dependent on actual used and circumstances.

Do Israeli forces deliberately target Gazan civilians?

Did I say anything about Hezbollah? The point made was that at both instances there were serious criticism and pressure (domestic and foreign) vs. Egypt and Jordan with regard to the peace agreements. The agreements still hold.

A few other stories appeared on Israeli news and social media, generating negative backlash (and in one case, a complaint to police). As in any country, some people are scum, most aren't. There are also many helping to care for workers relocated from the south, a couple of Thai food restaurants donating dishes, that sort of thing.

Why, are all Hamas fansboys here Muslim?

I think you're confusing the Hamas Charter with the Palestinian Constitution Draft.

Things will not change in the short term. That's a fact. Things may change some later on, and to a degree, but not so that all hardship and restrictions will disappear. An easing of some would already be an improvement. Palestinians, as in not those immersed in active 'resistance' tend to get it better than you do. Things in the West Bank, bad as they might be, are better than the situation in the Gaza Strip. Oppression, restrictions and all the rest - but not the same. The 'open air prison' bit is a loaded term. The Gaza Strip was not always under blockade and 'siege'. Maybe if if the main reason for it's existence could be minimized, restrictions would be eased. Presenting it the way you did is out of context. Previous to the Hamas attack there were tens of thousands Palestinian from the Gaza Strip working in Israel daily. Egyptian government being at odds with public sentiment regarding Israel policy is pretty much a constant from the time peace agreements were signed. On the other hand, take away the peace agreements, and Egypt's economy will plunge further. Give in to public sentiment on this, and risk the revival of Islamic/Islamist forces. Complicated.

There is indeed some convergence, with pretty much all of the forces that could be labeled pro-peace being part of the anti-government thrust. But overall, no - the protests were mostly not about the Palestinians (for tactical political reasons - as to garner more support and put certain differences aside). And I don't think that post war protests will be about the Palestinians either. Israel withdrawing from the Gaza Strip, for example, was not motivated by a sense of guilt or anything, but was seen as an Israeli interest. But my post was more to do, I think, with the current crap leadership's political future. Maybe the reasons they will be removed from office (again, hopefully) do not matter as much as the fact that they will be gone. Some can say that it will not matter for the Palestinians, but I think there's a marked difference between the current bunch of useless loon populist extremists and a more reasonable option.

Your post is a total disconnect from reality. For generations of Palestinians the forming experience is either the Israeli occupation, or the hardship of 'siege' and periodical destruction in the Gaza Strip. The fact that this is not solely Israel's responsibility, and that their leaderships contribute to the state of things is neither communicated, promoted or acknowledged enough to make much of an effect. And indeed - this fact is not tangible, Palestinian everyday experience with more immediate reality makes this take a sit at the far end of the bus. The only times when this becomes more of thing, is when there a lull, or easing of Israeli actions and policy. Political criticism of leadership is usually something more readily taken when not under being under external pressure and threat to survival. The same way Israel exhibited a severe political divide, but a unity (sort of) government formed to face emergency.

Oh dear, 'exposed' by a hollow one-liner comment. Could you actually point out those claimed 'lies'? I should think actually addressing them would be more helpful for your cause.

Hamas does not represent, or is supported, by all of of the Palestinians. Not IMO. Fact. I notice you changed your last line sign off slogan from 'reap what they sow' used during the first couple of days. The new one is just as pointless.

If by 'the conditions that led to Hamas' you mean the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, then this will not be changed anytime soon, surely not after the Hamas attack. If it applied to PA corruption, than that too is here to stay. As per the more immediate issue for Gazans, namely the blockade, it will not change in heartbeat, but considering that the main motivation for its existence was Hamas, then medium-long term things could be altered (say as things are in the West Bank, or how they used to be previously). Egypt, though - they'll face a whole lot of pressure to change their policy. I doubt they are thrilled, but may have to loosen up their grip some, at least temporarily.

Or they may explode in the hands of the Hamas trying to turn them into such.

Israeli public sentiment is also quite anti-government at this time. Some polls show Netanyahu's party crushing to under 20 parliament seats, some coalition partners taking a hit as well. I do not think he'll come out of this unharmed (politically). Last time Israel dealt with a similar crisis (after the 1973 war), there was a mass protest movement which eventually led to major political figures stepping down, losing votes and so on. In the present situation, the crisis occurred with a strong anti-government protest movement already firmly in place. One may hope it will bear the expected fruit.

I think he's somewhat out of touch with current public sentiment is Israel. Sure, there are some similar voices, but more of a consensus Hamas need to be dealt with. While it's all very good and well saying you can't destroy and idea and so on, it is perfectly possible to hit it hard enough to curb it's powers. Terrorist organizations who are denied secure bases of operation significantly lose power. Not forever, perhaps, but then again, it's not like there some magic solution for this anyway. Fatah was driven out from one country to another, each time losing power and traction, AQ and IS being more recent examples.

Residential areas which they asked Palestinians to evacuate, while Hamas urging them to stay. Hamas launched (and continues to launch) a comparable number of rockets against Israel. Doesn't seem to phase you one bit.

How is Israel 'in control' when it comes to Palestinians holding elections? Does Israel control the Gaza Strip? Your claim seems to offer that the Palestinians are so passive and clueless that they cannot even have political disagreements, intrigue and the rest, without outside help. Both Fatah and Hamas have reasons to avoid holding elections, mainly to do with the power plays between them and projected gains/losses.