stevenl

Will we see any apologies from yesterday's posters who "knew it was a scam"?

how do you know it wasn't, there was a Thai guy arrested too, still could be insurance scam

Because there was no insurance according to the victim.

Didn't you read the article? It says FOREIGNERS, not falang. Anyone who is not Thai is a foreigner in Thailand - Europeans, North Americans, Africans, and yes, Asians.

YOU are the one saying that foreigner = falang, which is simply not true. Your coworkers might agree that a "falang" has white skin, but that's not the same as a foreigner. Those two words are not completely interchangeable.

The 2 women from Malaysia are foreigners, because they are not from Thailand. It's not that complicated.

It is kinda complicated.

What word does the Thais use for foreigners ?

I would say falang (ฝรั่ง)

And in this case, that word is translated into English to report this story in English speaking news.

Suggesting, if we look at who was arrested, 3 people do not fit that description - only 1 does.

Technically yes, 3 foreigners got arrested and technically then the headline is correct.

Edit : And it still does not explain, that from the original article yesterday, that the police was looking for 3 foreign men.

How can 1 Russian male, 1 Thai male and 2 Asian ( Malay ) women look like 3 foreign men on cctv ?

No, it's easy. Farang does not mean foreigner, farang refers to one specific 'kind' of foreigner. So yes, it was all correct. Also, as far as I remember it never said '3 foreign men', it said '3 foreigners', with already yesterday 1 or 2 women mentioned.

The more you go on about this the more ridiculous you make yourself look.

“While the police officers were questioning the suspects, one of the Malaysian woman, the large one, asked to use the bathroom at the police station.

“But she ended up running away from the station. We are now searching for her,” Col Jakkrapan said.

It's always the large one isn't it?

Was she the one with the umbrella?

She probably put her weight behind it.

When this story first broke I read a great number posters jumping to conclusions based on nothing that this was an insurance scam. Where are all those posters now. It is a sad statement how ridiculous and embarrassing the farangs on this forum really are.

We will not know if it is an insurance scam until the true value of the stolen goods is verified it seems it was indeed a well planned robbery but that does not stop the victim placing an unrealistic value on the stolen goods !!!!!!

We do know it was not an insurance scam, since the victim has declared he has not insured the goods.

First you say '1 foreigner' and then you say '1 falang (foreigner)'. You also mentioned 2 Malay women,

Since when are only farang foreigners? The headline is completely correct.

Hello Mr nitpick ; And usually the concensus in Thailand is, that you got to have white skin, before labelled falang.

Didn't you read that sentence ?

How about cctv footage revealing 3 foreign men ( read article from yesterday ), that now really is 1 foreign male and 1 Thai man and 2 Asian women ?

I have asked around the office, 4 Thais all agreeing that a falang ( foreigner ) must have white skin, and is not Asian.

Agree with you, a farang has white skin. I am not contesting that at all, what I am contesting is your conclusion that the header is wrong. Even if only 1 farang is involved, it are still 3 foreigners.

Don't you see you're contradicting yourself here? First you say: farang has to be white skinned, than you say: 1 foreign male, 1 Thai man and 2 asian women, so header is wrong, only 1 foreigner involved.

Sorry, not only farang are foreigners.

So don't forget to ask in the office, if 1 Russian man, 2 Malay women and 1 Thai man are arrested, how many foreigners have been arrested?

Insurance scammers are not required to be smart. Years ago, there was a commercial pilot (Thai national) who insured himself with his wife as beneficiary (he was being hounded by creditors). He crashed a plane with a load of passengers, which was flying to Thailand from Vietnam. Insurers didn't pay.

Since there was no insurance, any connection with this story?

<snip> Nice things like pretending to pick up a stone, or vinegar I just don't trust as a long term strategy. Since

coming to Phuket I've given up running because of dogs, so I think a powerful spray will send a quick message

home. I also think that if more people did this, then maybe the dogs would have more of a fear of humans. <snip>

The perceived aggressive behaviour of the soi dogs is out of fear for humans. Your pepper spray, or other people's sticks, only make it worse.

If this isn't an inside Job, then Michael Jackson is still alive and is performing under the pseudonym 'Lady Giggle'... Would check the Farang boyfriends of any employed staff for a start. Steveni's divorce theory is also nice and most likely closest to the truth - well thought through

Who's theory?

So, reaction from all you guys claiming it was a setup to collect insurance money?

insurance claim

Did you read any of the comments about insurance requirements in this thread?

who in their right mind would leave that kind of money in a car overnight? I also wonder how they knew it was in there.

this reeks of a scam, I don't believe it was random.

Where did you read it was left in the car overnight?

Don't take a stick to soi dogs, or any dog for that matter, it will only serve to attack you. Just go where you want to go, if they approach you continue and make in behaviour very clear to them you will not be attacked.

I took a stick to some shrimpfarm dogs once, it helps.

guess is just a matter of size.

huuwi

No, it is not.

Soi dogs are conditioned to attack anyone carrying a stick, because they get hit all the time by people carrying sticks. Don't carry a stick, and simply approach them confidently and there will be no problems. You may have to shoo them once or twice, but that's it.

i have different experience, hit the leader and all other f.... off

See the OP.

Hi Richard, hope you eventually sell your RR.

A quick question though, How did you register for Talarod, I don't seem to be able to. Everytime I input my details to register the site tells me to input my name, which I do, and keep doing but it keeps telling me to put it in. Is there something I'm missing?

Don't know about this specific site, but quite often these problems are cause by using Firefox or Chrome. Badly built sites sometimes only work properly with Explorer.

Don't take a stick to soi dogs, or any dog for that matter, it will only serve to attack you. Just go where you want to go, if they approach you continue and make in behaviour very clear to them you will not be attacked.

I took a stick to some shrimpfarm dogs once, it helps.

guess is just a matter of size.

huuwi

No, it is not.

Soi dogs are conditioned to attack anyone carrying a stick, because they get hit all the time by people carrying sticks. Don't carry a stick, and simply approach them confidently and there will be no problems. You may have to shoo them once or twice, but that's it.

I guess there is no chance what so ever of walking into a Chiang Mai dealer

& finding a ready to buy 2.2 MT Hi-Racer DBL Cab next month

I will be renting a car from June 1st till I find a truck.

Might have to go used

How are dealers about trade ins? Pretty fair?

I dont want to pay 5-600 a day rental fees for months.

No, dealers are not fare about trade ins. They will sell to one of the second hand places for a nice profit, better go there yourself and sell the trade in yourself.

Also for buying a second hand car: don't go to a dealer, go to a second hand car shop.

Don't take a stick to soi dogs, or any dog for that matter, it will only serve to attack you. Just go where you want to go, if they approach you continue and make in behaviour very clear to them you will not be attacked.

According to my dealer about 2 months.

I have never been stopped without reason and never been fined outside of Phuket (where I live). And yes, have been driving on the highway a lot and also in other places, never a problem.

most ladyboys are ok until they get drunk then the man comes out i have seen it happen there f@@ked up in the head with yaba and drink,.

Glad to see you counted them all and watched them all to be able to come up with this statement. Somebody had to do it, I'm glad it wasn't me.

I agree. 2nd hand cars in Thailand are ridiculously over priced. it also amazes me how many 2nd hand cars are for sale. They're bloody everywhere.

This may or may not be true but I remember someone telling me the 2nd hand car industry in Thailand is controlled by the car industry itself. Keeping prices high.

Getting loans is pretty easy and in many cases as soon as someone secures a reasonable job they'll go out and buy a car. Only problem is they have to make monthly repayments. Therefore a lot of repossessions.

This actually happened with one of my staff. Secured a well paid job, next week turned up in a new car. Only problem is she had no license.

Oh yeah, good on you for raising this topic. I don't understand that some people think that whenever someone raises a question about Thailand they should go home. Long live freedom of speech.

I don't understand why people keep saying 'overpriced'. The prices of second hand cars are determined by cars on offer and people looking for cars, so the market. If it is overpriced it won't be sold.

GF got her IDP today, very easy. Well, apart from the photo that is, which needed to include just below the shoulder rather than a standard passport style photo. As she said, "Why they need to see my nom?"

Documents required were copy of Tabian Baan, Passport and Driving Licence. Issued on the same day.

Now I need to find a way to tell her my insurance company (eSure) has refused to add her to my policy!

They would insure her if she had been in UK for 3 years or more.

However, Aviva looks promising so maybe I will cancel my current policy and take out a new one with them but I will wait until I am in UK to sort it out.

So why did you get an IDP for her, since a Thai DL is all that is legally required?

2 reasons really: 1. Her licence is all in Thai 2. As it was so easy, why not? It can only help in any given situation.

Ok, thanks.

GF got her IDP today, very easy. Well, apart from the photo that is, which needed to include just below the shoulder rather than a standard passport style photo. As she said, "Why they need to see my nom?"

Documents required were copy of Tabian Baan, Passport and Driving Licence. Issued on the same day.

Now I need to find a way to tell her my insurance company (eSure) has refused to add her to my policy!

They would insure her if she had been in UK for 3 years or more.

However, Aviva looks promising so maybe I will cancel my current policy and take out a new one with them but I will wait until I am in UK to sort it out.

So why did you get an IDP for her, since a Thai DL is all that is legally required?

A Thai/Thai relationship ends with one of them trying to take their own life and the majority of postings on here are sympathetic (and quite rightly so) that a human being should be so desperately unhappy as to try to take their own life.

Why is it then that if the relationship had been Thai/Farang and the Farang jumped we would most likely have had a majority of postings saying it was their own fault for being stupid enough to fall in love?

No, the majority would have said it is not suicide but murder. He must have been pushed.

Still I have no exact idea why 2nd hand cars are that expensive.

The arguments above are not convincing (not only import cars have a low impairment).

One explanation I heard:

1) Only very few buyers are able to pay cash

2) Of the majority, many buyers are not able to get a bank loan for a new (or used) car (bank loans not available to peasants, small businesses etc., available to government officials and white-collar employees)

3) 2nd hand dealers offer loans to those buyers and abuse their financing power for ridiculous prices and terms of loan.

You might be better understanding this if you turn your question around: why are 2n hand cars back home so cheap?

I agree with other posters BTW, there really is no point at all in comparing prices between Thailand and back home.