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You're pretense that history since 1948 has no relevance to this war or conflict is no history class. It's a refusal to debate the issues in good faith, nothing more.

Comments about the difference between these two phrases? Is that a fact?

“I’m proud that I prevented the establishment of a Palestinian state because today everybody understands what that Palestine state could have been,” he said at a news conference Saturday night. “Now that we’ve seen the little Palestinian state in Gaza, everyone understands what would have happened if we had capitulated to international pressures and enabled a state like that” on the West Bank. Mr. Netanyahu is hoping to hold on to power after the war, despite popular fury that Hamas built itself into a military power and invaded Israel on his watch. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/17/world/middleeast/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hostages-politics.html

Human Rights Watch on Monday accused Israel of intentionally starving the civilian population in the Gaza Strip, citing comments from high-ranking officials and interviews with displaced Palestinian people in the Hamas-run enclave. “Israeli forces are deliberately blocking the delivery of water, food, and fuel, while willfully impeding humanitarian assistance, apparently razing agricultural areas, and depriving the civilian population of objects indispensable to their survival,” Human Rights Watch charged in a statement. Among other comments, the statement cited Defense Minister Yoav Gallant on October 9, two days after the Hamas terror group’s murderous rampage in southern Israel, announcing that he had ordered “a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. https://www.timesofisrael.com/human-rights-watch-claims-israel-starving-gaza-civilians-as-a-method-of-warfare/

It is too complicated for me obviously. Trying to deal with the difference between "this war" and "this conflict" is doing my head in. You're hiding behind semantics, pretending there is a difference in meaning between these two phrases.

The rules of the forum allow me to read and respond as I see fit. I have neither the time or inclination to read and respond to all of the posts in any given topic. You're nit picking because you've got nothing better.

Then you admit the war didn't start on Oct 7th? You're very confused about this.

Do people get killed in "normal demos"?

Precisely what words did you use to condemn Netanyahu? I'm calling BS on your claim.

Then why do you ridiculously insist that there was no history in this conflict before Oct 7 if not to deny that history?

You seemed to have forgotten so I thought it pertinent to remind you.

You got as far as "poor choices" LOL. Or was that somebody else? What words did you use to "condemn" him?

Netanyahu's hawkish defence minister Avigdor Liberman was the first to report in 2020 that Bibi had dispatched Mossad chief Yossi Cohen and the IDF's officer in charge of Gaza, Herzi Halevi, to Doha to "beg" the Qataris to continue to send money to Hamas. "Both Egypt and Qatar are angry with Hamas and planned to cut ties with them. Suddenly Netanyahu appears as the defender of Hamas," the right-wing leader complained. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

Won't condemn Netanyahu for enabling Hamas? Many in Israel do. And it was decades, you just won't back up your claims or denials. The accusations aimed at Netanyahu go beyond merely failing to foresee or prevent the Hamas attack of October 7, however. Many accuse him of deliberately empowering the group for decades as part of a strategy to sabotage a two-state solution based on the principle of land for peace. This symbiotic relationship between Netanyahu and Hamas has been remarked on for years, by both friends and enemies, hawks and doves. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

Without major incident? How many of his cronies were charged with crimes not even relating to Jan 6. A record number for any president that's how many. I guess Jan 6 wasn't a major incident? Just a tourist stroll?

You downplay 14 years as if it were 5 minutes.

Yeah, it is. It's a clinically proven fact that racism is a clinical disorder. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071634/

That's a lot like saying God created the Earth on some particular date. Ludicrous. You'd pretend that Hamas attacked Israel out of the blue and for no reason.

How would you know? It was certainly in Netanyahu's power to stop Hamas back then and shift power to the PA. This was all done in furtherance of the current policy of preventing a 2 state solution. Absolutely heinous complicity in war crimes.

They're destroying their countries, not protecting them. And racists are scum. It's a brain defect.

I don't believe that, I'm pointing out that you can't have it both ways. Logic is in short supply around here.

Flame edited out. If this war started on October 7th then the same logic would have Israel not existing before 1948.

Oh, and I believe that such a pardon would be limited only to contempt of congress charges brought by the vampires in congress who hate sunlight. The pardon would likely not extend to tax crimes charged, in my opinion. We'll see

Do you think "brainwashing" is a thing? Do you think Palestinians are brainwashed? Israelis not? Racism is showing. There's people here who think indiscriminant bombing of civilians isn't a war crime. How brainwashed is that?

Really? Netanyahu actively supports Hamas for 14 years and you brush that off as clutching at straws or no big deal? You should be condemning Netanyau for this instead of defending him. Do you support Hamas as well because your hero does. Every time Hamas killed a settler or fired a missile, Netanyahu rubbed his hands with glee because it gave him an excuse to divide the Palestinians further.