MrJ2U

2 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Do you have any statistics to back that up? Anything whatsoever?

 

"There's a lot of doctors and medical workers who have been vaccinated twice but endured medium and severe symptoms, or even died," Slamet Budiarto, deputy chief of the Indonesian Medical Association, told parliament on Monday.

"Officials are being motivated by concerns that delta and other variants appear to be breaking down defenses of vaccines not made from the super-effective messenger RNA technology, or mRNA. In places like Mongolia and the U.A.E., high levels of coverage with Chinese shots using the older, less effective inactivated vaccine platform hasn’t stopped a surge in cases. In the Seychelles, five people fully vaccinated with AstraZeneca’s shot have died."

Bloomberg

July 10, 2021 11:00 AM GMT+7

Just now, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Do you have any statistics to back that up? Anything whatsoever?

 

Yes.

12 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

Is that "senior citizens and those with chronic medical conditions" in Bangkok only?

 

What about upcountry?

 

Nothing up here in Sakon Nakhon besides the useless Sinovac.  

17 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

“Don’t bother getting Sinovac?”

 

 

What ridiculous, irresponsible advice. Have you any idea how many lives have been saved by Sinovac?

 

Those “hundreds of Thai healthcare workers infected” even though fully vaccinated with Sinovac? 97% asymptomatic or mild symptoms. And case fatality rate is 0.16%, a fifth of the rate amongst unvaccinated public. The vaccine works. Statistics matter when telling these stories.

Totally wrong.

Useless <deleted>.

As a backup you need to be proactive and when they offer Moderna vaccines sign up and pay. They sell out of there allotments very fast.

With the Sinovac messup theres going to be even more cancelations.  Many won't even get there second jabs.

Don't bother getting Sinovac as you probably know by now.

On 7/12/2021 at 7:12 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Wonder how much the free vaccines the US donated will cost.

I haven't heard much after the announcement.

Is it for any foreigner or just USA citizens?

In Thai news there making it sound as if the Thai government has made the choice to vaccinate 150,00 foreigners with the donated pfeizer.  No mention that the USA made it a stipulation.

Anutin seems to have the market cornered.

Hopefully he's put in jail over his negligence as Health Minister so the common people can grow it and make a living.

No other options.

Incredibly bad planning.  The most corrupt and inept government ever to rule such a fine country.

23 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Wow very interesting.  So, those that have only one Sinovac will now get a Astrazeneca?

Sounds good but have there been sufficient studies on the safety/efficacy of this mix of vaccines?  

 

No studies.

Astra Zeneca said:

"Up to you"

Sinovac:

"No comment"

2 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Indeed that sound like what happened. 

I didn't know it worked that way.

Interesting.

10 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

He is not registered there... I wasn't there but the one time I did go to the ER on my own, it was astonishingly cheap.. 

 

So no, I was not a persecuted farang,. 

Definitely can be very cheap and descent.

Hopefully don't have to see a doctor for a while.

Cheers

41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thailand just paid 6.1 billion baht on 10.9 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine.

 

So Sinovac works out around Bt560 per shot ($17) 

 

 

Ouch.  Thats pricey for garbage.

This doesn't include the usual padding the price for distribution.

48 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Whatever the truth of your comments, they're hardly a defense for getting your facts wrong.

Sinovac purchases made by Thailand aren't known.

I may be right.  

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Some idea of vaccine cost from leaked document.

• AstraZeneca: €1.78
• Johnson & Johnson: US$8.50
• Sanofi/GlaxoSmithKline: €7.56
• Pfizer/BioNTech: €12.00
• Curevac: €10.00
• Moderna: US$18.00

Sinovac has been reported to be between $5 per dose, based on WHO figures and from manufacturer to $14 as reported in India. Reminds me of an old story about corruption in these southwast Asuan countries - under the table, on the table and including the table. 

Curevac is out of the picture.

Unfortunately only 48% efficiency  rate and didn't make the cut.

• Curevac: €10.00

48 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I've seen price quote for Pfizer ranging from $15 to $20

Sinovac is a consistent $10.

On the other hand the AZ vaccine is priced at about $4

Probably right on that.

But its impossibly to know for sure without transparency.

The Sinovac deal looks shady.

20 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Why so much SinoVac?  Let me count the ways:  submarines, high speed tracks, bullet trains, etc., etc.

Trains ok.

Subs bad.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I've seen price quote for Pfizer ranging from $15 to $20

Sinovac is a consistent $10.

On the other hand the AZ vaccine is priced at about $4

At least Pfeizer works.

AZ isn't much good with Delta and the manufacturer is constantly breaking down in Thailand.

Sinovac for free is still no good if doesn't work

26 minutes ago, wasabi said:

Maybe this is why Thailand has no visor big brother is blocking them just like they blocked Taiwan?

 

Reuters: Taiwan's Foxconn, TSMC confirm $350 mln COVID-19 vaccine deal.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwans-foxconn-tsmc-confirm-350-mln-covid-19-vaccine-deal-2021-07-11/

Probably not.  Thailand has a bad reputation for copyright violations.  There are more countries more suitable in Asia to produce Vaccines safely and without risk of corruption and copyright violations.

Vietnam has plans to produce either Moderna or Pfeizer.  

Foxconn in Taiwan is ready to go with few modifications.  Great.

22 minutes ago, meechai said:

Yes that is exactly what Pfizer recently told its shareholders...

That basically the future was bright because as always this Pandemic will move to Endemic at some point

 

Yearly boosters same as any Flu Shot for those that want it

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-price-hike-post-pandemic/

 

 

Its actually cheaper than Sinovac.

When is that idiot Anutin going to have a press conference and tell the people he made a massive mistake and stop using Sinovac.

Some countries are now not recognizing Sinovac as a vaccine for entry, Singapore is one.  

He needs not only to be fired but prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

4 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

Saw this at a few McDonald's restaurants. All were replaced with a pad you must touch now...

 

Bad timing with COVID-19.

They need those automatic doors.  Don't need to touch anything.

On 7/8/2021 at 2:12 PM, Tony125 said:

 

Germany to donate all remaining AstraZeneca vaccines in Aug

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-donate-all-remaining-astrazeneca-vaccines-aug-2021-07-07/

 

Most Germans prefer the BioNTech(22UAy.DE)/Pfizer(PFE.N) vaccine due to concerns over the side effects and efficacy of AstraZeneca.

This week, Health Minister Jens Spahn announced that those people who had already received a single dose of AstraZeneca would receive an mRNA vaccine like those of BioNTech/Pfizer or Moderna for their second dose.

The AstraZeneca vaccine does not feature in Germany's purchasing plans for next year.

 

 

That graph is off if reports of deaths despite two doses of Sinovac are to be believed.

Bangkok Post

 *Of the 677,348 medical personnel who received two doses of Sinovac, 618 became infected, ministry data from April 1 to July 10 showed. A nurse has died and another medical worker is in critical condition."

More reports of the same in Indonesia.
 

I wonder how many flights that affects?  5 or 6?

Definitely not any up here in Issan.  

Be interesting to know.

I think Sinopharm is garbage also against the Delta variant.  

Is anyone in this government going to take the blame for this major screw up?