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Yes. They arrived in two separate parties on Saturday and Sunday. They are said to have died on Monday. And they were scheduled to check out on Tuesday. But then, why check out of their other rooms on Monday? Why move all their luggage to the larger suite on Monday? Why not move to the suite on Tuesday, which is the day they were scheduled to check out? https://www.odt.co.nz/news/world/six-found-dead-luxury-bangkok-hotel

If it were suicide, then why would they have ordered such a very nice meal, and then left it untouched? On the other hand, they DID have an open container of honey. They might have used the honey to mask the bitter or metallic taste of cyanide... https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/departments-and-agencies/dph/dph/communications/cerc/cyanidespdf.pdf So, in this scenario, all six individuals added cyanide and honey to their coffee/tea drinks, and did a bottoms-up "gan bei" down the hatch, in unison? But then why would two of the 6 try to head for the door? Cyanide is painful, and so why did the group looks so "peaceful". If they were going to ingest cyanide, would they not have first wished to have their nice, and last, meal, together? Nothing makes much sense here. Perhaps this is just another completely senseless act?

From the New York Times, we have corroboration that all SIX drank coffee or tea! https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/world/asia/thailand-six-dead-poisoning.html So, why would they drink coffee and tea before their meal, and not after or during the meal, and most Chinese do? And, once again, what is the role of the open container of honey? Was this a purchase made in Thailand as a souvenir, as honey is a very nice gift to be bought by many in Thailand, while visiting. Also, according to this article, it was only "assumed" that they had been poisoned, and so this does not rule out some sort of mutual act engaged in by all SIX which led to death for all. But then, why were two of the individuals trying to reach the door, to exit? ===== One other curious fact: There were 6 plates of food ordered for 6 people, consisting of fried rice and a fried egg, one plate per person. But there were only 4 bowls of TomYongGong soup! What happened to the other two bowls? In addition, there was a plate of seaweed, and two plates of some kind of mixed vegetables, some sliced Asian cucumber garnishes, and all the coffee/tea cups were missing from the table in the BBC photo image, except for one lone cup. Who overturned that water bottle in the BBC photo image? The water bottle was lying on its side, empty. If we had more information, or all the information available, then it might be possible to say more, and, perhaps, help to suggest solutions to this mystery.

If poison, then it must have been an extremely fast acting poison, simply because two individuals tried, but failed, to reach the exit door of the room. This means that the individuals would have had to take the poison all at the same time. And, further, that the poison would have had to be able to kill in seconds. So, then, it could NOT have been cyanide, UNLESS the cyanide were inhaled, and not swallowed or injected.... But, if something like Fentanyl, they might have been overcome in seconds, as well, even without inhalation of the drug. If CN, then how do you get 6 individuals to inhale cyanide gas, all at the same time? ====== Could it be possible that this was an allergic reaction? Some allergic reactions can constrict the airway and cause collapse very quickly. But then....why would all 6 individuals be susceptible to the same allergen? ======== Possibly even faster acting than cyanide gas, might be something like a nerve gas, but doesn't Sarin nerve gas take minutes, and not seconds? You also get the foaming at the mouth, of course. In this crime scene, I think that I might have worn a hazmat suit, which is becoming standard garb for these types of cases in the USA, it seems.

This news story seems bigger than usual. So, not sure if new guests might, as you say, be none the wiser, within the period of just one week. And, anyway, no guests will be allowed to use this suite until the case is resolved, one might assume.

Yes, but whatever poison was used, this poison must have been super fast acting. If CN, then CN is a very painful death, and should be easily spotted by looking at the body, one would think. And, how do you get 6 individuals to swallow CN all at the same time? If it was something like Fentanyl, then this might have been a bit slower acting, and maybe someone did a GanBei bottoms up with the drinks? But what would be the point of the 7th individual leaving the room? There are security cameras all over. However, of course, there was no 7th person in the room, because there were only SIX orders of food! Also, what about the open container of honey? What would you use honey for? Asians do not sweeten their tea, usually. Very rarely. And, you don't put honey in DomYomGong, which I can see on the table. So, then, why the open container of honey, which seems to have NO USEFULNESS in this setting?

So then, please explain this: Why would they have drunk their tea/water/sports drink/cola....BEFORE they even touched their meal? Only one meal's plastic wrap is even uncovered. Nobody sits down at table, FIRST drinks tea and coffee, and THEN eats their food....do they?

Yes. And, even more puzzling... This is like "The Last Supper", or something... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3g3prgzzjpo How can you poison so many people at the same time? It looks like they were getting ready to enjoy a very nice meal, too.... "The Last Lunch". And, obviously, from the photo: There were orders for SIX people on the table. This is sort of like one of those: Agatha Christie mysteries, or something...

If you read the news reports, there seems to be conflicting info. Some say they were preparing to check out, and other reports say they had just checked in. Must be something lost in translation. Anyway..YES...as you say.... If from America, then Fentanyl is not unlikely. And, it acts fast!

Do you recall this case in which 5 people died, all at once, and suddenly, from overdose of Fentanyl. A friend visited the apartment, and found the 5 people dead, as if they had just fallen in their tracks. It hit them that suddenly. So, sort of the same scenario: 5 people die together, suddenly, and immediately, without being able to call for help. But, I find this very strange, too: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/bangkok-shooting-hotel-casualties-thailand-police-b1171036.html They were preparing to Check Out! They had already packed their bags! Then, they drop dead?

Maybe deep discount using coupons and online reservations, or something. Or, maybe they borrowed points from a third party?

No, that is not correct: a. If it is BY CHOICE and intentional, and the drug taker knows what he is taking, and chooses to take it, and is NOT intending to off himself, but still dies because he has ingested too much, then.... This would be an "overdose". b. But, if the deceased never intended to take any given drug, but somehow happened to ingest a drug, and that drug killed him, then this would be a poisoning. It could be an unintentional poisoning. Or, it could be an intentional poisoning committed by another party, which would then be considered murder by poison. c. Then, in the US: If a drug seller sells a drug (if it is FENTANYL) to a user, and if the seller knowingly misrepresents the type of drug he is providing, and the user ingests that drug, and consequently dies of that drug, then this is considered a poisoning, and this is also considered murder, first degree, in some states in the US. At least, this is my understanding. d. In this case, it is still probably: Intoxication by Substance to be determined...

Are you sure that Fentanyl would leave a trace? I am not sure. 2 milligrams is really quite a small dose. Also, didn't all deceased die almost at exactly the same time? Otherwise, at least one might have called for help. Fentanyl acts immediately. Also, if the poison was in the tea...or coffee....then.. Would they not have all have had to drink their beverages at the SAME TIME? Also THIS: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/six-people-two-vietnamese-americans-found-dead-bangkok-hotel-rcna162144 So then: Foaming at the mouth? I am going with Fentanyl, or the similar but stronger version of Fentanyl, which is 20 times stronger than Fentanyl. In that case, the lethal dose would be 0.1 milligram, per deceased

They may have been Boat People....

How could this be a possibility? Did they not pack up their belongings, in anticipation of checking out? Also, why are the investigators not wearing HAZMAT suits? ========= But, of course...it's still possible, I guess. Because... Remember Heaven's Gate? These guys, too, packed up all their stuff, in anticipation of traveling to, I recall, some comet, or asteroid, or something...

I wonder if the poison used was..... FENTANYL ?

Musk is one guy I hope will live to see the last of his natural lifespan on planet Earth.... Or, more likely....on.... Mars.

No. Impossible. If he is an atheist, then, by definition, this would rule out Satanism.

THAT would be one heck of a METAMORPHOSIS....indeed! One that would make even Kafka...proud....

Every time I read anyone using the abbreviation, SS, I immediately think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel So, yes... Bizarre is the word, and it's very bizarre if one is able to use the abbreviation SS to refer to the secret service, or anything other than Stainless Steel, and the Schutzstaffel.

When he says.... Fellow Christians.... I am pretty sure that this guy is an ATHEIST....like me. For example: Vance really digs Curtis Yarvin. And, Yarvin is an atheist. IF Vance is a Closet Atheist, then, at least, that is one point in his favor. We really need to remove religion from politics, before we can take the next small step for Mankind.

If you are referring to me.... I am impervious to Borax. Even so, as I mentioned, I would not intentionally bring it into my nest.

Some people here are trying to deceive me, and trick me into buying Borax powder to carry back to my nest. They think I am THAT stupid? I am not so easily killed-off as they THINK!

I already have, and already did, and it was rightfully and justifiably removed....no complaints from me...for sure.

Yes, Your conclusion was obvious from the beginning. Also, it will be a very NOISY hallway...but...that's OK. Everyone likes noise in Thailand.