Wobblybob

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Who said anything about allowing them to invade, rape and murder, all Im saying based on earlier pist, where delays of support could be because of making sure weapons and funds reaching where it is needed and not in hands of corrupt ministers or organizations. 

 

God sake, 

You just have an awful habit of making excuses for these brutal regimes, maybe you don't realise when you put your words down?

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

So there is no corruption that have happen during the supply andnaid of this war that have created problems for Ukraine in the war against Russians? 

 

One simple question?

 

Corruption have been up for debate among many contributors, and have lead to two top Ukraine ministers leaving their posts. 

So are you saying that is the reason we should allow the Russians to murder, rape and torture the Ukrainians, because if it is that is not a very nice way to look at Russia's illegal occupation now is it. 

Nobody is denying there wasn't any corruption but they wasn't even in the same league as Russia, Zelensky is doing what he can to clean up the country, but these things are not immediate. But to use it as an excuse to defame the USA is despicable.

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You cant be more wrong, being realistic and aware of what going on in reality, have nothing with hate to do. 

 

But thats a long shot to reach you, and you do not understand this double morality is exactly what Putin wants to see and use as propeganda towards Moscow and russia friendly countries. 

 

Such as India and China, several middle east countries, Sout American and African. 

 

Im no the the problem here, we as an alliance is the priblem, when we do not adress problems that can and will end us. 

 

The internal problems in Usa is part of it. 

 

Realism is the wors

Gibberish and from what I can decipher a total conspiracy theory. 

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 typewriter warrior?

Baiting and flaming from someone that is clueless!

Just now, Hummin said:

Then you should read the links, and do some background checks that proves Ukraine war suffer because of corruption. It is valid links, but some try their best to cover up facts, but still there is plenty.

 

Bad politically if there is to much focus on the negative especially politically in Usa. 

 

Why do you believe I would lime to have Putin on my doorstep stronger than ever? 

 

Being realistic is something different from wanting Putin to wipe out Ukraine, creating another wave of emmigrants. We have enough already, and more is on their way from Middle east.

 

Sober up

You are so much like TBL in the sense that you talk the biggest load of nonsense and all because of your hatred for the USA and the Jews, it is disgraceful how you post on here, all of it to have a dig at (in this case) Ukraine.

Educate yourself and see what damage and massacres the Russians are responsible for in Ukraine, but that doesn't matter to you just as you can blame the USA and not the demented demagod in the Kremlin, never Russia to blame eh.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Huh, russian propaganda now?

 

Enough said, and pull your head out of the single mided state you constantly being in?

 

You of all talking about being taken for a ride when it comes to propaganda is just laughable. 

 

Seriously, cant take you seriously after all the BS you have posted

Says the man that backs Putins desire to wipe out Ukraine and all it's people.

Why do you always back the aggressors, what satisfaction do you get from supporting invading forces.

Just for balance, I have never taken anything you said seriously!

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Wouldnt be to sure he is the one who need help, not in a case where it is about corruption in Ukraine, which continue to give ukraine more trouble than necessary especially during the war against Russia, where all available resources is needed to win this war. 

 

One problem with giving aid and support to Ukraine, is corruption, and where some of  the weapons and support ends up.

 

It have been many corruption articles, so wondering why you guys have not paid attention. Even responsible to deliver food for the front,

 

Just a few heads up of many

 

"Payment was made in advance, with some funds transferred abroad, but no arms were ever provided.

 

Corruption has been a major stumbling block in Ukraine's bid to join the European Union.

 

"The SBU said an investigation had "exposed" officials of the ministry of defence and managers of arms supplier Lviv Arsenal, "who stole nearly 1.5 billion hryvnias in the purchase of shells"."

 

Read more

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973

 

The scheme involves the purchase of food which was intended as humanitarian aid. Two high-ranking Ukrainian officials have been named as suspects in an embezzlement scheme uncovered by Ukrainian anti-corruption authorities this week, involving the procurement of humanitarian aid.25. aug. 2566 BE

 

This is just the latest wave of corruption that has swept Ukraine since the war with Russia started in 2022. In January, two major corruption scandals centered on government procurement of military catering services and electrical generators shook the country

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-corruption-railway-ukrzaliznytsia-food-volodymyr-zelenskyy/

Don't be so patronising, of course we have been following events but then we don't have issues with the West saving innocent Ukrainian lives. You guys take in propaganda like a bath sponge takes in water, why do you want to believe the Russian propaganda, surely you cannot be that naive. 

Do you think that the innocent Ukrainians that got massacred in Bucha had anything to do with corruption and other towns and cities. You must trawl the internet looking for mud to sling at these people, try to think outside your naivety box for a change, we are talking of innocent Ukrainians losing their lives. 

Russia is responsible for most of the corruption in Europe and if you want to see corruption take a look at Russia, they couldn't find uniforms for their cannon fodder they sent to die in Ukraine because the Oligarchy had sold them all.

What a team you and TBL make. 🥴  

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Good for them. They are sending equipment to apparently one of the most corrupt countries in the Northern continent, so they need to be extra careful that the usual suspects are not taking advantage of taxpayer support to enrich themselves.

One wonders who the people complaining are?

Seriously, you need help!

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

 

This 'on the ropes' riposte brought to you by @Wobblybob

 

Don't worry, it is now eleven days since Mr Falter was not arrested for being Jewish, so your waining enthusiasm pretty much mirrors the declining media interest in this non-event.

Try adding something of interest instead of your constant stalking, trolling and baiting other members.

If you have any problems with any posts on here can I suggest you take your childish thoughts up with the mods, you are a pathetic excuse for a poster!

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I love irony. Thanks @Wobblybob. Good one!

Strangely enough I had you down as someone that likes to derail threads using the only tool he has which is insults, when you grow up you'll be fine!

On 4/22/2024 at 9:19 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

It could all stop tomorrow if Zelensky called it quits, and called up Putin to arrange negotations.

How many more Ukrainians have to die because he wanted to fight the bear. Would Zelensky have agreed to fight a real bear twice his size with a gun that had no bullets and half a knife?

It woud stop tomorrow if the illegal aggressors withdrew from Ukraine!

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

This topic commenced with discussion of events brought to the attention of the media by a video shot and released by the campaign group CAA.

 

A polarized discussion arises on the events portrayed in the video and described in the OP.

 

A shot while after the leader of the CAA releases a video statement and transcript of that video statement. His statement refers to the events portrayed in the earlier video.

 

A day later we learn that the earlier video was actually the product of editing, the original video shot on the day having been edited to remove scenes and context that are not supportive of the narrative being portrayed and statements made by the activist.

And all through this I argued that videos are not reliable, subject to scene election and editing.

 

So please give up on this one ”watch the video” mantra of yours.

 

The video was edited to remove scenes and context that were not supportive to the activists narrative. - Fact!

 

 

 

And I purposely asked you whether the police still wear body cams. I would assume that the police wouldn't edit their own videos taken from their own body cams (or would they🤔) yet they still felt the need to apologise 3 times. Stop trying to justify anti-Semitism!