Wobblybob

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Is this just conspiracy? 

 

 

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel’s military was aware of Hamas ' plan to launch an attack on Israeli soil over a year before the devastating Oct. 7 operation that killed hundreds of people, The New York Times reported Friday.

It was the latest in a series of signs that top Israeli commanders either ignored or played down warnings that Hamas was plotting the attack, which triggered a war against the Islamic militant group that has devastated the Gaza Strip

 

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-times-hamas-attack-israel-gaza-6088cad78f5e4153d671fe9b5b819308

Another attempt to blame Israel for the 7/10 attack, Israel may have missed a trick but you cannot be serious, you are very deviously trying to shift the blame from the murderous Palestinians to Israel and you purport to be unbiased.

10 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Sadly Israel has followed them back over it in their retribution.. and then some. 

There would have been nothing to follow had the Palestians not instigated this war and using using words like retribution does not help your posts when you have to lie, there is no retribution there is only preventative measures in assuring that the innocent Israeli citizens will not have to through another massacre of beastial attacks.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Cant help it, tragedies always have two sides, same as this conflict it doesnt take much effort to discover not everything is black and white, at least for normal thinking people.

When you say "normal people" are you including yourself in that veiled insult, normal people realise none of this would be happening had the Palestians not crossed the line of barbarism!

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It is related to my answer. One sided facts only, where you only see the suffering you want to see, as they want you to see it. Unbalanced propagandists is the right word, when it is one of the greates human tragedy this century that could have been avoided if the Israelis wanted peace.

Your post is so well written I have nominated it for The Booker Prize! 

The "greatest human tragedy this century" would not have happened had the Palestinians had not attacked Israel! 

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

Yes!

Thanks, you have confirmed my suspicions.

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Did you not know that I was also issued with a Lee Enfield .303 rifle and later an SLR 7.62 mm SLR automatic rifle.

What point are you making telling us this?

Can somebody help me out here is @Hummin being sarky? 😂😂😂

11 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Great answer, you got my attention now, and I see you got a + one friend 👍 

 

I really respect your opinions which are well balanced and well thought through 

Just now, Hummin said:

Thank you, I do my best, 

 

The State of Israel has been accused of genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip during the Israel–Hamas war.[17][18][19] Various scholars, and the United Nations Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese,[20] have cited statements by senior Israeli officials, which they argue demonstrate an "intent to destroy" the population of Gaza, a necessary condition for the legal threshold of genocide to be met.[21][22][23

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_in_the_2023_Israeli_attack_on_Gaza

I once got accused of making a bad smell when it was my good friend Arty.

Francesca Albanese😂😂😂😂

If you forced a childs hand in a hornet nest and he got stung you would blame the hornets if they were from Israel!

20 minutes ago, billd766 said:

55555

 

Did you not know that I was also issued with a Lee Enfield .303 rifle and later an SLR 7.62 mm SLR automatic rifle.

 

I can't be bothered to answer any more of your silly questions, when innocent men women and children are being murdered and genocide is carried out in Gaza on a daily basis.

 

Come back with a decent post and I may answer, or not.

They are getting killed because Hamas want to eradicate all Jews not just Israelis. Hamas is totally to blame for all the deaths! 

33 minutes ago, Hummin said:

👏

 

You certainly know to pick yours

Yes facts cannot be argued with although you give it your best shot!

3 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

I'll forget for a second your vile posts history and be naive in assuming your request is quite innocent and genuine. There is an official IDF statement about the assassination of Ismail Haniyeh's three son and four grandchildren.

 

Killing children and women is not just some tragic isolated cases isolated cases. There are more than 14,000 dead children alone. 70% of deaths in Gaza are of women and children. The social media is full of hundreds of killings being committed on camera.

 

Here is just one case that really shocked me to the core Grandmother shot and killed fleeing Gaza. Watch CNN’s investigation | CNN

Why don't you just answer his question instead of going off on a tangent!

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A little bit sober when choosing your links would help

 

Israel is not committing genocide — but Hamas is  

BY ARSEN OSTROVSKY AND STANISLAV PAVLOVSCHI, OPINION CONTRIBUTORS

Only choose links that goes with your narrative you mean!

8 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Only the idiots of the world support terrorists and haters... 

They are appeasing the crocodile with a hope that it will eat them last!

9 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

I would welcome them in the honorable club of people who oppose Zionism, Genocide, illegal occupation and lies while keeping deep respect to Judaism itself and making a clear distinction between Judaism and Zionism.

Just because you say that Israel is committing genocide that does not make it so, you use key words to flame other posters and I strongly suggest that even you know that your lying.

It is important to underscore that the commission of genocide has nothing to do with the number of civilian casualties; the key element of the crime is the need to possess relevant “intent.” Whatever criticism one may have of Israeli policies or Israel Defense Forces (IDF) actions in Gaza, Israel is not seeking to destroy the Palestinian people, whether in whole, in part, or in any manner. 

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4388533-israel-is-not-committing-genocide-but-hamas-is/

Just now, Neeranam said:

I refuse to communicate with such people. 

Trust me these people will be ecstatic at that news, I know I am.👍

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

There is a thin line between stupid and inhuman, or even evil in those supporting Israel Genocide. Being stupid or trolling I hope is all the ones here are. It truly amazes me  -  how many war crimes will it take until they stop condoning these deaths?

When Hamas have been liquidated and all the hostages returned and when stupid posts suggesting that Israel is committing genocide and when you stop using other posters to troll because you don't do tete a tete! 🥴

Just now, transam said:

Trolling now, but expected, you have nothing, you are cornered........🤗

He considers flaming a valid way to debate.🥴

5 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

He is clutching at straws now, as there is absolutely nothing to justify what Israel are doing now. 

The justification is to stop anymore 7/10. HTH

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Nice twist to my words.

 

NO, I did NOT join the military to kill women and children.

 

If I had been ordered to whilst I was still in the military, I hope I would have the courage to refuse that order.

 

That is the same answer that I gave when I replied to your hypothetical question that you asked earlier.

 

From what I remember from my 25 years in the military, I don't believe that any officer or SNCO would have issued that order anyway.

You insinuated that Israeli soldiers are ordered to kill women and children and that is one of the most disgusting lie I have ever read on these boards, what goes through your mind when you infer such things, it is not normal.........oh wait.🥴

18 hours ago, billd766 said:

And how many innocent Palestinian men women and children has the IDF and Israel executed both before and after October 7th, (including 4 children in the last few hours) which has been said many times, did NOT happen in a vacuum.

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

IF it were me I would like to have an idea who did it, and IF I were a Palestinian citizen, I would attempt to kill as many Israeli's as I could.

 

OTOH IF I were an Israeli citizen, I would probably feel the same way.

 

However IF I were an IDF soldier and was ordered to kill Palestinian women and children I would hope that I could refuse that illegal order, even though I would end up in the glasshouse, because the order IS illegal, no matter what Netanyahu and his war cabinet say.

8 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

No one joins the military to kill children. If such orders are given you must refuse them, especially when Israel keeps claiming falsely to be the most ethical army in the world.

High toll of civilians killed is a clear indication of the existence of such policy.

Again, you will never find a signed official order to kill women and children. Israelis not that stupid and good at covering their tracks, especially when it comes to a plausible genocide.

So you are admitting that this stupid reply was made up, a lie, without foundation and a figment of an overactive imagination, pretty much all we get from the let's demonize the Israelis fan club!

5 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Getting too desperate by relying on lies from a sacked chief liar/propagandist Eylon Levy.

 

Israel systematically destroyed roads and infrastructure making transportation almost impossible then have the audacity of criticizing UN for not being able to transport aid trucks efficiently.

 

Incredible twisting of facts.  

Yeah let's quote from AJ and other Conspiracy sites. Desperate equates to a poster/troll posting that Palestians are eating grass, perleease!

And what do you know about facts.... absolutely nothing!

"Hypocrites in the West don't care about starving children if they can't blame the Jews"

7 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Says you, the IDF and nobody else. Still dead through no fault of their own, murdered!

You're correct "no fault of their own" but the terrorist father who compromised them for letting them travel with him knowing he was a target.