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She would be happy if you give her money, but she will be even happier if another guy gives her more money. She has no loyalty to you. Only to money. And there's always guys with more money. If however she has genuine desire for you, even if you cheated, she will pursue you, even if you break up with her, she will pursue you. She will walk over broken glass to be with you if she has genuine desire for you.

The thing is, when women cheat, they do not cheat like men. For men, yes it is only sex. However, if a woman cheats, she cheats because she wants another relationship, because for her the other guy is better, because she attaches emotions to the other guy. Men and women cheat differently.

You know, I actually hired the best firm of private investigators in the Philippines to investigate a Filipina I had a 6 year relationship with. It was a complete waste of money. They came back saying she has a great character and reputation. This was based on interviews they did with neighbours. Of course they could not look inside her phone where she was lying, cheating and serial dating men like confetti, something I found out much later. So private detectives are a waste of time from my own personal experience. However, your advice is spot on. Take it slow and vet her as long as you want. Time is indeed your friend, and in time most things will be revealed that you should know, if you ask the right questions, are observant and check her phone.

Very interesting take. However most women will be driven by their feelings. The problem if she is completely focused on money is that there can always be someone who has more money than you. So you are actually at greater risk of her cheating than if she has genuine feelings for you.

A very liberating atittude, BMT. Unfortunately, one of the culture specific differences in all of Asia, not just Thailand, is that lying is far more pervasive. So is cheating. However, there are differences. A girl who had both parents and was raised right is more likely to have integrity, be honest and keep her word. Contrast that with a girl who grew up with her grandmother, neglectged by her mother who was always working because the father left the family. She sees her mother being promiscuous, lying and cheating. Clearly she is far more likely to cheat and lie. Now, if your financial framework is in order and you keep her away from other "options", you may avoid her cheating altogether. However, if given the opportunity there is still a risk, it's true.

There are some guys on here who have wifed up a hooker and it worked out for them. However, those are the very few fortunate incidents when he was lucky to find one of good character, which needless to say in the oldest profession in the world is very rare. The problem with the bar girl dynamic is that you automatically create a framework of pay for happy, which will be very difficult to break if she is a priori conditioned to only give the best of herself for cash. Sadly this is now pervasive not just in the bar girl scene, but even many "normal" young girl on ThaiFriendly will put "looking for sugar daddy" or the first question they ask is "can you support". It is certainly a good idea to avoid these kinds of women who are only focused on money.

Well, one is in show business one is the political leader of a country. Different rules apply.

Indeed, many of the character traits you vet are the same as in the West. However, sadly 80% of vetting is not done if you avoid a girl with tattoos (though you should), avoid a hooker (though you should), a 20 year old (you should not avoid her) or a high school dropout (could go either way). Nevertheless, in Thailand there are particular issues. One key difference is family. Here in Thailand you want to make sure you vet the family to a much greater degree than you would in the west. Because if you have a long term rel with her, you also have it with her family. So, are both parents still alive? What is the nature of the relationship with both parents. How many siblings? What is the financial situation of the mother or the father, the health situation? Do they have significant debt? Vetting needs to be in depth in relation to the Thai family as well.

Another win. I love Kid Rock's music though character wise he is a bit suspect.

I would like to address one more of the points in Mike's excellent and on-topic post. Vetting the character of the Thai woman should not be confined to the first conversation or the first week. In fact much like for women the dating never stops, for men the vetting never stops. ideally you should vet a woman for 10 years at least. Even then it is too short a time. Why? Because women change over time. The number one characteristic to vet is always - is she loyal? However, there are so many others: Can she be led? Does she follow your lead? Is she happy to do so or does she resent it? Is she lazy or hard working? Does she make your life better, does she do housework or does she resent it? Is she honest or is she a habitual liar? Does she have integrity? If you agree something can you rely on her doing what she agreed to? Or does she always break any agreement unilaterally? Does she have any neurotic behaviours, is she mentally ill to a level that is unacceptable? Does she cry a lot, move in her dreams or tell you she had a satan sitting on her chest (don't laugh this actually happened to me with a Filipina). Does the slightest stress cause her depression? Or does she have a sunny and happy disposition? It will take a long time to truly vet a woman.

Great post Mike, really. You touched on one of the greatest difficulties with vetting a woman: They will pretend that they really care for you. Indeed that is one of the greatest difficulties, to gauge her real, actual and truthful level of attraction to you. You meet her and she smiles, you end up going to bed and have sex, as a man you automatically think she cares for you and is attracted to you. However, this is aboslutely wrong. She can have many reasons to have sex with you, spend time with you, smile at you, that actually have nothing to do with her having genuine attraction to you or caring for you. So the question becomes, how can you be sure if she is attracted to you in a genuine way or not? Thankfully, you can fake many things, but you cannot fake "connection" in the long term. IF you pay attention, you will pick up on little signs. For instance, though you have great sex you will notice in bed she is not truly physically affectionate. She does not grab your hand out of herself in loving way. She does not initate sex a lot. She does not spend a lot of time talking with you about you, is not curious about you, but instead is glued to Youtube or Tik Tok. She does not watch films with you, because she does not like the same films as you. In truth a girl who really likes you will pretend she likes the same films as you, it is a small thing to her. If she does post on Tik Tok, then only herself looking pouting and seductive, but she never posts about you or mentions you. In short there are small, but obvious signs, that whilst a woman deems you worthy of spending time with, she is not actually filled with burning desire for you. This is a crucial part of vetting, because you should only invest in girls who have this desire for you. Or you will enter a hell of suffering. Because the person who cares less has all the power. Do not make excuses for a girl who shows signs that she is not wildly attracted to you. I did this before. You try to make excuses because the gir is so incredibly hot. But in the end, if she is not truly attracted to you, she will text her ex, text other guys and cheat on you. You will enter your own personal hell. These girls are only good as fbuddies, never as serious main girl material.

Character is destiny. There are two kinds of women, those women who will stay loyal to you provided the material framework is solid and she is kept away from other "options"; and then there are those women who will cheat on you regardless of the material framework you provide, in fact she will create "options" to cheat. So, whilst we men, often talk about looks, it would be more important to talk about how to vet the character of a Thai woman. In particular because there are greater difficulties in Thailand 1) broken and disfunctional family life creating impaired or missing integrity 2) financial disadvantages being an incentive to gouge a partner and adopt the gold digger strategy 3) the ability to date highly attractive women who, unfortunately, are often the ones with the least integrity. Therefore let's talk about this. How do you vet for character in a Thai woman?

Hey! A THIRD term guys! Are you psyched?

I am not, billions paid to the Jewish Materials claim conference, billions paid to Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and now Ukraine. I am surprised the Germans have any money left at all.

Thais are holiday gfs, we are your wives...Hahahahahaha

Could you be so kind to outline those mindboggling similarities please?

Yah, Greenland is totally the same as the Sudetenland. You're clearly an avid reader of history, lol.

Whatever David Geier and his team come up with, I am almost positive it won't be as crackpot as locking down the entire country, destroying billions in wealth, curtailing civil liberties and letting grandma die alone, because of a common cold. We have literally lived through the most crackpot medical failure of all time, and it was stunning.

I hate to break it to you, dude, but the Third Reich has already been and ended in 1945. You could at most have a Fourth Reich, but then only if Trump was in Germany, and unfortunately, as awesome as that would be, sadly, it is not the case. By the way, the 2025 agenda is literally miles off of any Nazi agenda. This is what I mean, the opponents of socialim in their day came up with their own ideology, but the opponents of Trump are lazily using age old ideology to oppose Trump and come up with nothing new. The new left is a barren and uninspired lot really.

Yes, indeed, riclag, part of the genius of Ray Charles was that he combined white country and western music with R&B, he was not above singing white country and western songs. None of that hatred of whites some Rappers today have. Which is ironic of course because in Ray Charles day blacks really had it much worse, segregation was a real thing. It is almost as if as the better people have it, the more full of hatred and evil they become. It was the same with my Thai gf, she had everything she wanted living with me, did not have to do any work, was looked after and all her bills were paid and she hated me for it, hated her life.

The exact opposite was the case, Ray Charles was a heroin addict and led a chaotic life of non-stop affairs with women, prison arrest. But he was an incredible genius, played chess for fun and always remained humble.

Ray Charles was the closest we got in pop music to a real genius.

I can see what is going on in the US. Yes, Trump has his problems, his support for Israel is a concern with potential for catastrophe, and yes, of course smoke and mirrors and lies are part of the daily parcours, but in terms of things getting done, by Golly are they getting done.

I am seeing real work being done. The gutting of the bloated government bureaucracy for instance. Something past administrations should have done a long time ago, if future generations are to have a chance in the US. Very brave and tough. But necessary. To lower the burden on ALL taxpayers. I am seeing a recalcritant Ukrainian nationalist being pulled by the leash to the negotiation table to secure peace in Europe. I am seeing criminal gangs being deported from the US making the streets safer. I am seeing Hyundai making huge investments in the US, creating jobs, as they are trying to avoid tariffs. I am seeing a golden age for the US, as the Dollar will be devaluated and US firms will gain a competitive edge. In short, I am seeing more results in a few weeks than in 4 years of Biden.

JD Vance is more extreme than Trump ever was I think. It must be terrifying for the left.