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Male beauty is most definitely a thing. But I see that you have a hang up about the word. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculine_beauty_ideal

I get what you're saying but sometimes people that think they are beautiful actually are. But then we get into what is beauty? Different cultures have different culturally specific concepts of beauty. In the same culture, that can change over time. My context is western gay male concepts of beauty. That has changed since my peak bloom to usually REQUIRE some level of having a gym body. I didn't have that, so with my same looks I had now, I wouldn't have the same high level of swoon appeal. Still OK, but I would be rejected a lot more by the cream of the crop in a bar or these days more like Grindr. Also the swoon worthiness I did have was mostly from men. Women most often aren't particularly interested in twinks beautiful or otherwise. On another note, I did have a swoon bloom in my school age years, but only from about 13 to 15. I got cast as adonis Demetrius in Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream based on my looks rather than my acting ability. Pretty girls were all over me! But I didn't want the girls so I put on weight and that took care of that.

And then there is the fall. I remember being 30 and a coworker saying to me -- you know you're not as cute as you think you are. Ouch. It's true. I wasn't. It gets much worse. I guess in my 40s. For some reason my butt was being discussed by a bed partner. He said, I can see that it USED to be hot! Then it's so over.

Some people think that most all people going through the bloom of youth are at least beautiful humans during that time. I beg to differ. In my opinion, younger people are mostly average looking with some ugly and some beautiful. I suppose some average looking younger people do later enter better looking or even beautiful phases. Maybe they alter themselves at the gym or with surgery, etc. But anyway, the way I look at it there are significant numbers of people who have never been beautiful all their lives. For those that have been, in general the beauty fades away with age though of course older people can be stunning as well. So what's the point of this thread? To invite discussion about your own personal experience with being beautiful in the past (or perhaps you still are) and the feelings about that fading and also from people who have never and will never experience it. The never swoon worthy, do you feel pity for people that had it and lost it? The faded swoon worthy, do you feel pity for those that never experienced that? By swoon worthy beautiful, I will give a personal experience. During my peak bloom, I could walk into a disco and be pursued by countless unattractive people but the key point proving swoon worthiness was that I could approach any of the most attractive people in the joint and close to none would reject my approach. Not saying they all wanted to bed down on the spot (most did), but almost never a rude rejection. So that's what I mean as SWOON worthy. A very high level of desirability.

I wouldn't use a communal women's toilet but there are situations where using a one person women's toilet is perfectly OK. Like when the men's toilet is broken or in more than peeing use and nobody is waiting for it. Sure I have done. I don’t like it only because of the fear of dirty looks when exiting.

You can post all the links you want It doesn’t change the fact that Israeli citizens in Israeli borders are not living under apartheid. The discrimination that they do face does not rise to the level where that demonizing label is justified.

Wow. Marriage equality appears to be coming soon. If so the obvious big uestion will be whether foreigners married to same sex Thais will be allowed to get marriage extensions.

Almost definitely not. Hamas killed any hope of that with their pogrom.

Housing discrimination doesn't mean Israel is an apartheid state. Such issues exist in many countries. You're being absurd. Buf I get it You cling to buzzwords to demonize Israel.

The captives are assets to get leverage. That's why the Hamas terrorist scum is keeping them alive. As soon as they think their value is gone they'll murder them. Ironically they're treating the captives better than their own people that they use as human shields.

Troll bait ignored

Deflection

Know thyself Jeff. We see you.

So you've met my Aunt Gladys.

Would you prefer weak tea?

Funny. According to you Jewish Israel is especially chosen to commit national suicide like no other country would ever be expected to do.

2000 is quite a bit above average for a SS check. So many have checks closer to 1000.

Israel is not an apartheid state in regards to Israeli citizens within it's borders. The Palestinian west bank is specific situation. Obviously the Israeli west bank settlements are an occupation. To Hamas all of Israel is an occupation, so Israel has no choice now but to go to war.

You might want to refresh yourself about the demographic this topic is addressed to. Financially distressed older people that can barely make survival level in the west, maybe even homeless or flirting with it, etc. The arrogant post I was responding to was about much better off people that own homes free and clear, who have a decent additional nest egg beyond what they could get selling that home, etc. Of course, obviously, at whatever your level, expats should try to keep in contact with close people in the home country, if that applies to them. He was talking about something specific -- saying it was always stupid to sell a home back home to fund moving abroad -- and not only is that a totally separate discussion, it obviously isn't always true. It would depend on a person's specific situation. Keeping a far away rental property isn't always worth the hassle and as someone else mentioned, there may be negative tax consequences. Again, this is about the poorer demographic. For example a person with a 800 to 2000 dollar a month pension, who doesn't own a home free and clear, and has some sort of nest egg, at least enough to fly out, get set up, and have an emergency fund. Many such people have already moved abroad. I am suggesting many more in similar poverty levels in the west at the very least explore the options (not only Thailand). Success or failure as an expat isn't necessarily tied to income levels. There are people who succeed well with lower income, and others that fail miserably while being very well funded. So moving abroad isn't for everyone, but I think it's definitely for more people than actually do it.

In fairness, there is time to get that done before 2028.

Yes and no. It's worth asking the question if the majority of our lifes work and resources should be allocated for the last and worse period of life? Speaking of a typical old age journey. There is the period where there is still good quality of life. Then you know what and that miserable period can be short or take years. People don't move abroad when they've already entered the total <deleted> zone. They more to better enjoy the still good zone. The ages that all this occurs of course varies widely.

Things eventually go south in Thailand, your home country, or anywhere else. Sure support systems or lack of thereof should be considered. It's not crazy to place a lower value on the very last period of life and or not obsess about living the longest possible amount of time. All decisions have trade offs and consequences. One advantage of declining in a lower cost country is the relatively lower cost of in home elder care. I think the Philippines because of the English speaking and glut of nurses is maybe the best choice for that purpose.

Condescending arrogant elitist POV. No further response warranted.

No hope for any of that with Hamas in power.

Don't feel obligated. I can imagine what your comments would be regardless.