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You can't legislate against social homophobia.

I agree about Malaysia. I like the country but the anti gay laws have become extreme.

It's actually much more granular than that. Different districts in the same city can range from hostile to gayborhoods. I have a great personal example when moving into a house in a non gay neighborhood of San Francisco. Mostly a working class Latino area. Yes the San Francisco not Frisco Texas. We were greeted with a housewarming gift. Someone had painted in huge red letters on the house -- FAGS In a way I kind of understood their hostility. Gays moving in meant gentrification that would eventually price them out. Ironically we were poorer than the neighbors but eventually the ruinous gentrification did happen.

You're welcome Yes exactly. The Where Do Gays Retire enterprise.is trying to help fill that niche and apparently are finding resonance and success with that. For those actively exploring destination options I highly recommended an extensive look at their podcast page to browse the many diverse and often surprising places that they have covered with Interviews of real LGBT retired people that actually live there. It's one thing to wonder for example would Ithica be good but to hear a long interview with.a LGBT person who actually lives there is a great resource.

Yabba dabba doo!

As far as seniors not wanting to go back in the closet I think there are two most common scenarios for that and both could apply to both singles and couples. First which is documented in the video in the OP from the founder of Where Do Gays Retire is making the mistake of moving to a place without other LGBT people around in an anti LGBT civil rights political and cultural environment. If your neighbors are largely igorant and hostile and support anti LGBT politicians and laws you might feel pressured to make yourself invisible or even fake what you are to fit in and be safe That is horrible! Ideally retirement is for enjoyment of your life including feeling free and safe to be who you are. LGBT people know well that coming out of the closet is not a one time thing. The issue comes up throughout life with new people, new places, and new social environments. Part of that unfortunately is sometimes feeling irs necessary to be closeted either for safety or just to avoid feeling a pariah. The most severe of these forced back into the closet situations are based on my research involved when entering medical care facilities such as nursing homes. If interested you can find a plethora of links about this issue Internationally. It's very real. In the context of this topic I suppose you could reduce the chance of that happening by living in a more LGBT friendly city in the hope that filtered down to the level of experiences of LGBT people in medical care. Obviously no guarantees. For those not before aware of this major international.issue for LGBT seniors: Note I will not reply to personal attack flames and hostile heckling and I suggest others just ignore such troll posts as well.

For those of you who have visited Wilton Manors in the Ft. Lauderdale area but inland from the beach you probably can see its an unusually great place for LGBT seniors. But only if they can afford it. So building some low income housing was very welcome but I reckon there are thousands of people who would want to live in each such unit.

I guess that the Australian school system didn't teach you about the connection of the electoral college to slavery. https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-founding-fathers-constitutional-convention

Another aspect of choosing between a lower cost US car dependent area vs. a rarer area where you can actually exist without a car is the issue of aging out of being eligible to drive. LGBT people lack a supportive family that will drive them everywhere at higher rates than the general population. So choosing a non car dependent area could be seen as future proofing.

Sorry but I have posted multiple times that I have no plans to ever leave Thailand. However I am very interested in Plan B alternatives both in other countries and in the US. Perhaos consider it an odd hobby. So I have nothing to decide really unless events or circumstances push me out of Thailand. For examples a visa change I can't meet or a medical condition that points to needing to use Medicare in the US. I can say most likely places if another country. Mexico or Panama but maybe Cambodia temporarily. I really don't have a most likely list if I repatriate. The choices in the US at my budget are mostly about picking trade offs. Also the timing would make a difference. For example if it was ten years from now the choice would probably be different than if it was in the near future.

The trouble is that combining a truly walkable city that has great public transportation where you don't need a car with truly affordable housing PLUS great weather basically doesn't exist in the U.S.

It's not about the current conflict or even the same countries.

What's your point?

Yeah I understood it was OZ and also that your rent is too low for Sydney and Melbourne.

I know some people from there but the closest I've ever been even to the Michigan border is at the Indiana dunes on a trip from Chicago. K-zoo is getting some buzz thought these days! Also Grand Rapids gets a lot of good press. Kalamazoo ranks #1 in coolest cities to live with the lowest cost of living in U.S. (fox17online.com)

Well yeah in most of the US the rent plus too damn high.

Here is what gay seniors want to avoid but very sadly many still fall into circumstances that force them back into the closet in old age. Usually related to inevitably declining health. Can choosing the right location for retirement help prevent that? Yes I think it can help but probably always short of any kind of foolproof guarantee. In the US SAGE is an organization advocating for gay seniors. I think it would be a plus if moving to a US city if there is an active SAGE group. I know Tucson AZ does. https://www.sageusa.org/news-posts/will-lgbt-retirees-end-up-back-in-the-closet/ What does your dream retirement look like? Your life experience living as part of the LGBTQ+ community will likely play a role in where you retire, how much money you have to spend in retirement, and even your healthcare needs as you age. Sadly, homophobia may put a damper on part of your gay retirement plan. It might even drive some part of the community back into the closet as we get older.

The trend is improving as far as the west finally waking up to how vital defeating Russia is but I'm not feeling total commitment yet and if maga fascist Putn adjacent Trump comes to power again, everything changes.

Spain and Mexico appear to be the most popular non US countries covered by Wherr Do Gays Retire.

Great name though. A real piparoo.

Brazil is a mixed bag. Of course it has masses of gay people in the cities and such a vibrant culture but its notorious for violent crimes against them. Well I had a good time in Rio anyway except when I was mugged ih broad daylight. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/democraciaabierta/violencia-anti-lgbtq-brasil-en/

It's a discussion topic. Thailand is indeed one of the places that gays retire to but its interesting to some particularly the intellectually curious to know about other places in our world. If the topic doesn't interest you feel welcome to ignore it.

More snarky hostile heckling.

Nothing is wrong with Thailand.

Bull. Straight people don't need to come out.