Jingthing

I'm not religious and I could care less about whatever game you're playing now.

Living in peace next to a place where the government wants to murder all Jews is a bit of a stretch.

If I watch it I'll judge for myself.

Yes but it's not as if Israel has anywhere near total control about what happens to the hostages. Man plans. God laughs.

Not everyone is you.

I get what you're saying but I really think October 7 shook up all previous assumptions. They'll try very hard of course but I can't believe anyone believes their efforts will be fully successful. Look at the ceasefire question. Some would argue Israel going along with that increases the hostages chances. Not sure if that is true but Israel still has very good reasons not to agree. So it's not a black and white thing in practical reality

They care but they know they're going to lose some or most of them regardless. Surely some of the bombs going after targets has hit some already.

I wouldn't have used them in my 20s.

It usually goes as far as North Pattaya road. 10 baht.

Whatevers.

Of course. That's how they roll. Off heads. Unfortunately Israel can't afford to prioritize the hostage lives as much as their families understandably wish. Another case of war is hell.

Islamic genocidal barbaric terrorists.

Hamas is winning the PR war.

Oh please.

Much more dangerous than a bus so no thank you.

Israel is at war for the survival of their nation state. They are surrounded by hostile enemies on three sides (with support from Iran). War is hell but Hamas started this war and Israel didn’t want it but now they must fight it. Israel must make many hard war time decisions and trade offs including about hostages and human shields of legit targets. In the fog of war Israel will make some mistakes, some horrible. But a war is not a garden party Hamas chose this war.

Again the rule now is board at the front bus not the back bus.

Israel isn't a theocracy either. Israel is responding to a barbaric terrorist massacre just as any country would do.

Blast from the past! Many will remember this lovely young lady. What a gem. I agree with her that the west bank settlements are illegal. However, Tamimi: 'We will drink your blood, what Hitler did to you was a joke' - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

As I expected -- you don't know because you don't use that queue. I know because I do use it. You may have seen a group charter or you may have seen people that didn't know the new system and just boarded. I did that myself once before I learned the new system. Again -- you are wrong and people should ignore you on this. Again -- if you stay on the bus from beach road and you get "lucky" that they're going in the direction of Jomtien the bus may turn in a different direction before it even gets to Jomtien. Yes that has happened to me.

It's the modern variation of holocaust denial.

No! It's absolutely the front one now. Have you even done this recently? Sometimes you might get on a bus on beach road and when it gets to South Pattaya it turns towards Jomtien. You CAN stay on it if you like but they are not committed to go as far as you expect in Jomtien then. Also they know where you got on, and they know about the queue system so there's a good chance they'll demand 20 baht anyway. Enjoy

Yes the South Pattaya queue is still there. First take a bus to Pattaya Tai. The fare is 10 baht. There is ZERO controversy about the fare from there. Again -- 10 baht. Of course never talk to drivers. However, there is now a DIFFERENCE. You don't board the bus at the back of the row of busses anymore. Instead you need to walk to the bus at the front of the row to board that. There you will find the same sometimes overly aggressive and abusive bus minders trying and usually succeeding in overpacking the buses. There are no markings on beach road that a bus MIGHT be headed to Jomtien. Most do not. You don't want to ask them because then it's a taxi. So it's best to forget that option and just get to the South Pattaya queue and take a second bus.

Israel demonizers are always expecting Israel to do absurd things that no other nation would ever be expected to do. No, it couldn't possibly be because Israel is the one Jewish state in a world with scads of Muslim states. Nah, perish the thought. Israel -- chosen for masochism and suicide. Been there, done that, will pass.

That may be overstating but basically the Arabs are the Johnny come lately crew. But we must face current reality. Both peoples are there now.