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I'll never forget when the UN charter allocated two states that the Arab world immediately attacked Israel. Israel had no choice but to become a military power. That or perish. If anyone didn't get that before, they should now after the massacres.

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Twenty-seven.

While now is a time of WAR and it's absolutely necessary and justified for Israel to try to wipe out Hamas, of course as the Arab world has failed them since 1948, I support the plight of those that identify as Palestinian Arabs to improve their situation and live in peace and prosperity. In theory that would be a two state solution, but realistically that doesn't have majority support on either side. It's become more of a pipe dream from other countries! So no, I don't have the answer, but I'm sure "Free Palestine" is not the answer. Why? Because Free Palestine strongly implies that Palestine won't be free until Israel no longer exists. Their chants often include river to the sea, meaning no more Israel. That's not OK. I truly wish moderate Palestinians would come up with a new slogan that makes it clear their goal is to live side by side with Israel. I'm not optimistic.

In fairness they would be murdered for giving them up.

Egypt has been very clear. They don't want refugees from Gaza.

Condoning / rooting for

What a sad reflection on Islamic terrorists.

As usual it turns out that Trump only cares about himself.

Don't be silly. American Jews mostly vote democrat because they are more closely aligned politically with the more liberal democratic party than the fascist republican party. Israel is one issue among many, as American Jews are American, not Israeli. But interestingly Israeli pundits are now saying that Biden just gave the most pro Israel speech in American presidential history.

The boy can't help it.

I don't think his impact will be significant either way. I'm much more worried about Cornel West.

Me too. It's not cheap. I think my current plan is about 5 dollars a month. I picked it based on reviews but mainly because they let you choose optimized servers for file sharing purposes (torrents, streaming Stremio, etc.). They have a free level for basic stuff but for the file sharing services, you must pay.

He's a horrible little man that wants to throw Ukraine under the bus and give it to Putin. So of course he's similarly radically isolationist towards Israel. He has zero chance of even being nominated by the republicans. Referring to his interview with Tucker Carlson who is widely celebrated in Moscow. Great pick, dude. Next ...

An interesting and timely perspective though made six months ago.

Israel has been a nation state since 1948. As Hamas wants to murder every Jew and erase Israel. being "neighborly" really isn't in the cards at the moment, is it?

Thailand being Thailand. The world will see such neutrality in the face of evil as projecting as a weaker "fly over" country that doesn't really want to be a major player. Not to be taken seriously. Up to them. At least they're not like Iran. I don't really blame Thailand for this. They've decided this is in their best self interest and I reckon they're probably right about that. But again there is also a price to backing off from being a serious world player.

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that history before. But at the end of the day, Israel did become a state, and the Arab world (plus Iran etc.) has been absurdly slow in simply ACCEPTING that geopolitical reality.

Ignorance invites correction.

No. There were already Jews in the British Mandate. Zionist pioneers had been there already for many decades and they had bought (not stole) most of the original lands that they settled from Arabs. Good that you recognize that Israel IS the ancestral land of the Jews. So you would have wanted to stick the Jews in Germany of all places after the holocaust? That's perverted. Also there was never a Palestinian state. At the time Israel was created the area was a British mandate (much much larger) and before that a Turkish one (Ottoman Empire). That's why the idea of Palestinian Arabs as a distinctive identity from Arabs say in Syria or Jordan didn't exist until Israel existed.

Sounds like something Putin would say.

Yes, the Jewish people are indigenous to Israel. Most were indeed driven away and created a diaspora which exists to this day, although most in Europe were exterminated.

Sounds like you're cherry picking a detail. Nobody is saying that Zionists were always angels either. But neither were the British colonialists ruling the Mandate. Such as when they turned away ships of Jewish refugees.

The original displaced Arabs not known as Palestinians back then were only about 400,000. Many of them were recent migrants from what are now OTHER countries such as Jordan. More recent than the Zionist pioneers. When "Palestinians" for example moved to Lebanon after Israel was created, Lebanon stuck them in camps, never integrating them. Was that Israel's fault that the Arab would used them as pawns? As far as two million in Gaza, how many of those people NOW have keys to houses back in Israel? Come on man, normal people MOVE ON.

I noticed that the Arabs were offered states multiple times over the years, always rejected them, and always opted for violence. I think the greater Arab world refused to integrate the original 400,000 displaced Arabs and encouraged them to cling to the delusion that someday they would erase Israel creating eternal refugees. Do you think the Jews should have just committed suicide?