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But you're posting here on that topic. Velly interesting.

Might be best to zip your pie hole about it though in light of this news story.

The other elephant in the room which Big Joke has vaguely hinted at is whether they will crack down on "dodgy" agent activity. Logically if they were actually serious about their goals (making sure people actually are financially qualified) they would have done that decades ago! But they haven't. Go figure. I can't. Trying to find logic in immigration policies here is a masochists delight.

Willful ignorance is not usually charming.

Nah. Again they needed to say men, women, or something else. They understandably went with something else as that fit the situation best.

It's not my role to educate you on basic stuff. So I'll leave it at that.

So you think they should have reported as men. They had to say something in the article. I think most people seeing their picture would think another term should have been used though. So agree to disagree.

No but it definitely would have been reported that they were foreign. Also stop lying. Nobody said it was because they were trans. I said it might have aggravated it and I stand by that.

Permanent residence is pretty much as good as citizenship in Mexico. It is getting more expensive. That is true. I don't agree cheaper needs to be dangerous there though. It does usually mean learning some Spanish and choosing a place less on the overly travelled expat circuit. Happily, Mexico is a large country and there are many such options still available there. Or you could lower your standards and live in a small place in a less central area in an expat haven. Where exactly to live in Mexico as an expat is kind of the million dollar question. There is never ending controversy on the topic. Similarly the Philippines as there are so many diverse options there. BTW, Mexico is about four times larger than Thailand. Many people (including me in the past) are fooled to think it's a smallish country because it's shrunken on globe maps.

Reporting them as trans men would have been incredibly stupid.

The elephant in the room here for retirement visas is not so much if they increase the financials but whether they start to require comprehensive health insurance for those with an O visa as base instead of an OA. If they do, there will be a mass exodus! Remember when they started that requirement for OA there was no grandfathering! But those people had the option to start over with an O or get an Elite visa which ominously has just been made much more expensive. Considering a Plan B is very wise for many.

So what would you say they should have reported? That they were men? That they were women?

Yeah, but you'd rule out Latin America? Mexico was the first place I wanted to move to but back then I couldn't qualify for a retirement visa there. Now I can (by investment accounts) which depending on current levels could give me freakin' PERMANENT RESIDENCE possibly instantly and if not, in five years.

Bait ignored.

This happened in THAILAND. Next ...

Presumably you're in Thailand? The existence of such people whatever the labels in an ancient and well understood part of Thai culture. I would be hard to find a Thai who doesn't know about it.

Exactly. I don't think they had any other good choice but to report it as they did.

Give us a break. Most everyone in Thailand is well aware of the existence of trans women (though they have different words for it). Yes, even children.

That is not what I was told. That would be a deal breaker -- 100K for 50K. I find that hard to believe. Was this Bangkok Bank? If not, which bank. If it wasn't Bangkok Bank (it was clear that I COULD open for 50K) it's not very relevant to me. The being able to raise the limit at anytime sounds like a great feature and almost too good to be true. If it's not true, to get what I want I would need to open with a bigger balance as 50k is not enough for many trips.

There it is. Again. Total garbage anti LGBT rhetoric. Marketing to LGBT people is not targeting behaviors. It's targeting an identifiable segment of PEOPLE. Thailand doesn't give a fig about woke or also your western "anti-woke" agenda, which is largely a fascist movement led by Gov DeSantis who is interestingly dropping like lead in the polls. They are interested in tourism money. LGBT PEOPLE are a fantastic source for that. Thailand authorities think it's worth it to be welcoming to LGBT PEOPLE. I think it's obviously worth it. You don't. But you're not fooling anyone that your business evaluation is objective. Your continued and very obvious anti LGBT loaded rhetoric gives that away to anyone paying attention. But again. You've stated your position. Agree to disagree. I doubt the tourism people here would listen to your POV though.

Trans women. If you don't know what that means, look it up. Many don't seem to get such basic things.

Thanks. I will open with 50k and test it. It's important to me to be able to have a higher level as needed. Many air tickets cost more than 50K just for the ticket. Are you required to pay off the full balance monthly or are you allowed to pay a minimum payment and keep a balance? Not that you'd want to at 16 percent though!

I call B.S. Your obsession with personally attacking on so many posts (some appropriately deleted) is NOT OK. Talk about the issues. OK. I or the volume of my posts are not the issues.

Do you feel better now? This level of hatred is not far from the surface for so many.

More like perhaps not. Also for the news with transgender women they had to say whether they were men or women. Intolerant people might say call them men but they were presenting as trans so the respectful thing to do is to accurately describe that. They did that.