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This happened in THAILAND. Next ...

Presumably you're in Thailand? The existence of such people whatever the labels in an ancient and well understood part of Thai culture. I would be hard to find a Thai who doesn't know about it.

Exactly. I don't think they had any other good choice but to report it as they did.

Give us a break. Most everyone in Thailand is well aware of the existence of trans women (though they have different words for it). Yes, even children.

That is not what I was told. That would be a deal breaker -- 100K for 50K. I find that hard to believe. Was this Bangkok Bank? If not, which bank. If it wasn't Bangkok Bank (it was clear that I COULD open for 50K) it's not very relevant to me. The being able to raise the limit at anytime sounds like a great feature and almost too good to be true. If it's not true, to get what I want I would need to open with a bigger balance as 50k is not enough for many trips.

There it is. Again. Total garbage anti LGBT rhetoric. Marketing to LGBT people is not targeting behaviors. It's targeting an identifiable segment of PEOPLE. Thailand doesn't give a fig about woke or also your western "anti-woke" agenda, which is largely a fascist movement led by Gov DeSantis who is interestingly dropping like lead in the polls. They are interested in tourism money. LGBT PEOPLE are a fantastic source for that. Thailand authorities think it's worth it to be welcoming to LGBT PEOPLE. I think it's obviously worth it. You don't. But you're not fooling anyone that your business evaluation is objective. Your continued and very obvious anti LGBT loaded rhetoric gives that away to anyone paying attention. But again. You've stated your position. Agree to disagree. I doubt the tourism people here would listen to your POV though.

Trans women. If you don't know what that means, look it up. Many don't seem to get such basic things.

Thanks. I will open with 50k and test it. It's important to me to be able to have a higher level as needed. Many air tickets cost more than 50K just for the ticket. Are you required to pay off the full balance monthly or are you allowed to pay a minimum payment and keep a balance? Not that you'd want to at 16 percent though!

I call B.S. Your obsession with personally attacking on so many posts (some appropriately deleted) is NOT OK. Talk about the issues. OK. I or the volume of my posts are not the issues.

Do you feel better now? This level of hatred is not far from the surface for so many.

More like perhaps not. Also for the news with transgender women they had to say whether they were men or women. Intolerant people might say call them men but they were presenting as trans so the respectful thing to do is to accurately describe that. They did that.

Can you confirm that you can add money to it at any time to temporarily raise your credit limit without increasing the initial lower LOCKED amount?

It depends on what actually happened. Suppose they were foreigners and there were signs that the hostility was related to that. If they were foreigners, it would have been mentioned regardless. I don't think it's bad reporting to mention they were trans. It brings up the possibility that the violence might have been related to that, which in actually is true, it might have been.

It always will be. You can't legislate it away. But like other evils, perhaps it's possible to reduce the harm that it does.

Indeed, for so many of use going back home is the WORST possible option!

Yeah I meant to mention something similar before. With many gay people whether resident or visiting/expats you get many wonderful businesses that wouldn't exist otherwise, that are available for everyone (with money of course) to enjoy. Also supporting cultural events at way higher levels.

Normal is a loaded word. Being a red head is not normal in the sense that most people are not. Unnatural? No, you're wrong about that. Homosexuality has occurred throughout human history and can been seen in many non-human species as well. Yes I realize ignorant bigots say what you said. Not sure why you felt the need to though. Hardly decent. Fomenting hatred and punching down to often demonized minorities is the OPPOSITE of decent.

Not way off in the slightest. If the perp said something transphobic during the incident or to the police then you would know whether that was a factor or not. If nothing was said, then correct, you wouldn't know. New study explores stigma and discrimination against trans women in Thailand | United Nations Development Programme (undp.org)

Yes happily that is still possible although lots of people doing that had problems during the pandemic as they couldn't reenter. I would still suggest going for a real visa there if moving there permanently. For basic things like opening bank accounts. etc.

It might depend if the violence was aggravated by transphobia or not.

Different cultures have different norms in how they watch movies. I'll never forget the first time I saw a movie in downtown Chicago. No, I didn't object. That would have been crazy!

Share their genitals?!? You are obviously posting extremist and inflammatory homophobic garbage. You claim you are only analyzing this from an objective business POV. That really can't be fooling anyone. It's really sad that any LGBT topic attracts such extremist and vile hateful responses. But that's the way it is, I suppose. Also you have attacked me personally numerous times. The number of my posts is irrelevant. Counting posts is obnoxious.

I have much more confidence in the business judgement of Thailand tourism authorities than your obviously biased argumentations. Promoting LGBT tourism does not take away from promoting other identifiable segments such as Chinese. LGBT is not "small" at all for international tourism, in the sense that LGBT people travel internationally at relatively very high rates, and as a generality they are spenders. This is an international trend among more enlightened national tourism industries. Those that object are on the wrong side of history. Agree to disagree on this.

I am strongly considering getting a secured credit card at Bangkok Bank but because I can't find anything written about this in print or online, I have some questions about the actual experience with it. Hopefully there are members who have such a card that can inform. I want a local (Thai) card even though I have a U.S. cc. My purpose is mostly for travel although I assume if I buy products with it there are (hopefully!) more consumer protections paying by CC than with cash or debit card. I am not eligible for a regular Thai credit card as not working here (retirement visa). It's a shame that Thai banks don't offer regular credit cards to retired expats based on verifiable pension income. But even though that is possible in other countries, it is not in Thailand. Yes, Bangkok Bank is not the only bank offering secured cards, but BB happens to make sense for me because of the way I use that account. (I also have SCB and Kasikorn accounts.) Here is what an in person BB banker told me at a BB branch. The minimum to open is 50K baht. That money is locked until you close the secured cc account. If you wish to increase that rather low limit, you can add money to that account at any time, and your available credit increases to that level. So let's say you need 100K credit for an upcoming trip. Add 50K. Adding that money to the 50K does NOT increase your LOCKED credit of 50K permanently. Seemingly a great feature! (Hopefully I understood it correctly.) However if you open with more than 50K you can never lower it unless you close the account and open a new one. Which begs the question -- why would anyone open with more than 50K? The interest rate for balances is 16 percent. Visa was recommended as the better choice for travel purposes although not the only option. I forget to ask whether you are required to pay the full balance each month or if like regular cards there is a minimum payment required and the rest gets charged interest. I assume from their profit seeking POV that you can hold a balance. But not certain at this point. I forgot to ask about annual fees. That would be easy to find out. As I have the BB app on my phone I assume adding to balances and paying monthly bills will be a breeze. For anyone using this kind of BB card, do I have the details correct? What has been your experience? Anything else to add?

Thailand is on the right track welcoming LGBT retirees even more than they already have. It's a lucrative demographic and for any bigots that can't stand LGBT visibility Putin's Russia welcomes you to visit or stay permanently. https://www.cabi.org/leisuretourism/mobile/news/25295 LGBT travel market valued at US$211 billion a year Marketers urged to avoid stereotypes when targeting LGBT market The global value of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender travel market has continued to grow and is now worth over USD$211 billion in LGBT consumer spending per year, according to research released for the first time at WTM London yesterday (8 November). New international research undertaken in 2016 from the LGBT2030 program by specialist consulting firm Out Now, carried out in 18 different markets, shows how spending has grown over the last 3 years. The top global market, worth about US$61 billion annually, is the USA, followed by Brazil with $26.4 billion. The global value of LGBT travel has increased by an average of 2% per annum over the last 3 years, with only Argentina and Italy (for economic reasons) showing a lower spend. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lgbtq-tourism-market-worth-5685-billion-2031-travelgay The LGBTQ+ Tourism Market is Worth $568.5 Billion by 2031 The LGBTQ+ tourism market is a rapidly growing segment of the global tourism industry. In 2022, the market was worth an estimated $420 billion, and it is projected to grow to $568.5 billion by 2031. This growth is being driven by a number of factors, including: The increasing number of LGBTQ+ people traveling around the world. The growing acceptance of LGBTQ+ people in society. The increasing availability of LGBTQ+-friendly travel resources. As the LGBTQ+ tourism market continues to grow, destinations and businesses around the world are increasingly recognizing the importance of catering to this market. This is leading to a number of positive developments, such as: