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Thai media update. “June 13, - Mr. Anon, the rider involved in a recent altercation, immediately apologizsd upon meeting reporters. He explained that the incident occurred yesterday around 09:00 when a passenger mistakenly set the pickup point at Soi Pracharat Bamphen 18 instead of Soi Pracharat Bamphen 20. The ride to Soi On Nut 41 was supposed to cost 131 baht according to the app. However, upon arrival, the passenger paid only 66 baht, insisting that the fare couldn't be different. When attempts to contact the app for clarification failed, Mr. Anon proposed going to the Phra Khanong Police Station to resolve the issue, but the passenger refused and continued trying to reach the app. Meanwhile, Mr. Anon received another booking from Soi On Nut 54, which added to his frustration. He asked the passenger to pay the full fare of 131 baht so he could proceed with his next job, but the passenger didn't comply. Overwhelmed by stress and losing a customer, Mr. Anon admitted he lost control and assaulted the passenger. Reflecting on his actions, Mr. Anon expressed regret and noted that he should have insisted on going to the police station rather than resorting to violence. He reported to the police at Phra Khanong as requested and is awaiting further proceedings. He confirmed being permanently banned from the app and accepted full responsibility for his actions. Mr. Anon acknowledged his short temper and promised cooperation with the police. He urged the app to address fare discrepancies, which riders often bear. Regarding a controversial voice clip, he clarified that his statements were misinterpreted. In his final remarks, Mr. Anon apologised and emphasised that the incident was not a momentary lapse in judgment but a result of escalating circumstances. He urged the public to consider multiple perspectives before judging. “I'm sorry. It wasn't a momentary lapse but a result of the situation. This wouldn't have happened if you had agreed to go to the police station with me initially,” Mr. Anon concluded.” https://workpointnews.com/around/news/NYIMS2E

The CCTV footage of the incident. https://fb.watch/sGqpv2_qh7/?

Bangkok Airways has unveiled an ambitious plan to invest 2.3 billion baht in the expansion of Samui International Airport and Trat Airport over the next 2-3 years, according to the airline's president, Puttipong Prasarttong-Osoth. Trat Airport will undergo significant upgrades, with a new passenger terminal and an expanded runway stretching 2,000-2,100 meters to accommodate larger aircraft such as the Boeing 737 and Airbus A320. These enhancements aim to facilitate international flights. Construction at Trat Airport is slated to commence in 2025 and conclude by 2026, with an estimated investment of 700-800 million baht.

Bangkok Airways has unveiled an ambitious plan to invest 2.3 billion baht in the expansion of Samui International Airport and Trat Airport over the next 2-3 years, according to the airline's president, Puttipong Prasarttong-Osoth. The expansion at Samui International Airport will see the passenger terminal grow from 7 to 11 boarding gates, along with an increase in the number of check-in counters. The project, expected to cost approximately 1.5 billion baht, and that the number of flights is anticipated to rise from 50 to 73 daily.

Responders social media video of the fire. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02pckUawEJnZzjfs25n4X385oP4rckFvShBjS6BwgV2kKsrh82ymhptBYzLAXXL8ESl&id=100009384722420

Looking at the pictures, it appears that the fire first developed at the rear of the trailer, on the right hand side, intense flames, that are growing, are seen in that area in the first picture below. Fire then spread to the rubber scrap, being transported, second picture. Good thinking to drive truck unit away, trailer suffered a far bit of damage., third picture .

Boeing told the U.S. Justice Department it did not violate the deferred prosecution agreement after fatal crashes involving the 737 MAX. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/boeing-tells-doj-it-didnt-violate-deal-after-737-max-crashes https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/boeing-faces-deadline-rebut-possible-united-states-prosecution-beoing-737-max-4406851

Fully agree, but AOT and DOT, the 2 government agencies that run the airport have been is disagreement since 2019. “Airports of Thailand PCL (AOT) had planned to assume management of Udon Thani International Airport, Sakon Nakhon Airport, Tak Airport, and Chumphon Airport in 2019. The DOA would relinquish control, reducing the airports under its control to 24. In a change of plans in August 2019, AOT proposed instead to take control of the Udon Thani, Tak, Buriram, and Krabi airports, leaving Sakon Nakhon and Chumphon airports to the DOA. DOA insists that the earlier plan be followed as it would retain its money-making airports.” The airlines are not interested, the last government tried to get flights to the brand new Betong Airport, but it only lasted a few months, no money in it.

It is not just the cost to upgrade, it is trying to get a commercial airline interested in using any of these possible airports, as the chances of them being profitable is doubtful. As I said above. “The DOA (Department of Airports) currently has 29 airports, of which only 19 have scheduled commercial air services, while the rest either only have a handful of flights each week or no commercial flights. The airports I believe, with no scheduled flights are Tak, Nakhon Ratchasimi, Pattani, Petchabun, and Betong.”

Here is the list of The DOA (Department of Airports) regional airports, 3 have international status, Krabi, Udon Thani and Surat Thani. DOA also operate U-Tapeo International Airport, which is owned by Royal Thai Navy.

The head of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) will tell the U.S. Senate Commerce Committee on Thursday 13 June, that the agency will maintain its increased on-site presence at Boeing and its supplier Spirit AeroSystems "for the foreseeable future." https://finance.yahoo.com/news/faa-maintain-increased-person-oversight-194749426.html

Forensically, yes it is possible for Skeletonisation to occur in under a month, it will depend of many facts. The time taken for a body to decompose depends on, Climatic conditions, temperature, humidity and moisture, Was the body fully exposed or buried/covered, what clothing worn. Accessibility to animals, rodents, dogs, birds, etc. Accessibility to insects, flies, maggots, ants, worms, etc. Soil acidity and any reactions with body bacteria. Lots of body farm research into decomposition and animals activity, to support that in some conditions, a body can be reduced to bones in a few weeks.

Thai media reported. “June 12, 16:00, Bangkok Governor Chadchart Sittipunt held a press conference alongside related agencies and stated that the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) will tighten regulations on animal trade businesses. The fire incident will be used as a lesson, as the current licensing process for animal shops in Bangkok is too lenient. From now on, all traders must obtain licenses from both the BMA and the Department of Livestock Development before opening their businesses. These stricter measures will be implemented nationwide. Deputy Director-General of the Department of Livestock Development, Boonyakrit Pinprasong, emphasised that animal trade businesses must secure licenses ensuring proper conditions and animal welfare. He highlighted that while the department handles registered animals, other animals like turtles and fish, may require involvement from other agencies, such as the Department of National Parks for wildlife. Buyers must also obtain necessary permits to avoid charges of illegal wildlife trade. Governor Chadchart reiterated that BMA is responsible for licensing hazardous businesses and that shops failing to comply will not be allowed to operate. Regarding the fire incident, BMA offers financial assistance of up to 11,400 baht per affected vendor, provided they present correct certification for their business.

Moving from a domestic airport to an international airport, is a bit more than a new name. The airports will need to meet Annex 14 of the Convention on the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) which contains the basic standards and recommendations (SARPs) for airports, plus the requirements under Thai laws, such as customs, immigration, health and environmental monitoring. Here is a few Thai airport facts. The DOA (Department of Airports) currently has 29 airports, of which only 19 have scheduled commercial air services, while the rest either only have a handful of flights each week or no commercial flights. The airports I believe, with no scheduled flights are Tak, Nakhon Ratchasimi, Pattani, Petchabun, Pai, Mae Sariang, Uttaradit and Betong. AOT (Airports of Thailands) operates 6 airports, Suvarnabhumi Airport, Don Mueang Airport, Phuket International Airport, Chiang Mai International Airport, Hat Yai International Airport and Chiang Rai International Airport. U- Tapao Airport is owned by RTN (Royal Thai Navy) and operated by DOA Koh Samui International Airport, Sukhothai Airport and Trat Airport are owned and operated by Bangkok Airways.

Not disagreeing with anything you say. The improvements could be along the lines of something like the IATA (The International Air Transport Association) data exchange platform called ‘Turbulence Aware’ which is designed to provide airlines with better information for flights. So far only a few airlines are part of this system. “Turbulence Aware is designed to receive all the existing airline data from ground servers, performs quality control, deidentifies data, and provides the data back to airlines via a ground-to-ground system-to-system connection and will map real-time turbulence reports for operational flights decision-making. The system uses a energy/eddy-dissipation rate (EDR) which is a calculated estimate of the atmosphere’s turbulent state. It is not a measure of the response of an individual aircraft. But is the official ICAO & WMO metric for measuring turbulence intensity Detailed reports for data points – Including time, altitude, aircraft position, mean and peak EDR values as well as wind and temperature data, will help to increase situational awareness to pilots” https://www.iata.org/en/services/statistics/safety-data/turbulence-platform/ The platform was first started in 2018, but since the SQ321 event, more airlines have signed up and many more are interested in joining and using the data collection/analysis system. IATA hope that by the end of this year they will have collected turbulence reports from 150 million flights Yes it will not prevent all CAT (clear air turbulence) events, but will be a step towards improving passenger/aircraft safety.

55555 You think that was a personal insult, really, you are that thin skinned? Lets wait and see what the investigation report, from the aviation experts, recommends, as there was not safety recommends in the preliminary report. My bet is that TSIB, CAAS NTSB, FAA, CAAT, EASA, CAA, ICAO, IATA, will all support the idea that airlines continue to recommend seat belts are worn at all times, but will not attempt to force any compulsory, at all times use, and there will no recommendations for beepers, buzzers , beepers or additional lights. There will be guidelines for airlines to update SOPs and procedures for how they deal and approach turbulence at an operational level, and that will be left for each airline to adopt as suitable. Have a good day, I am out of this.

Yes I have never questioned or doubted Singapore Airlines, would go beyond what was required. The medical payments are separate to the compensation offer, and the airline in the reply to the TSIB preliminary report, on 29 May, stated the airline is paying all medical and hospital costs, for all passengers. I don’t believe all passengers will accept this initial compensation offer and there will be some legal action from some of the passengers, including maybe the more seriously injured. Latest news article on the passengers, below. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australian-dance-teacher-on-board-sq321-left-paralysed-from-chest-down

Fully agree, it is not just the compensation, it is the whole transparent, post incident proactive, crisis management response, by Singapore Airlines, that has been excellent. Also from the statement yesterday. “SIA will provide a full refund of the air fare to all passengers travelling on SQ321 on 20 May 2024, including those who did not suffer any injuries. All passengers will also receive delay compensation in accordance with the relevant European Union or United Kingdom regulations. We provided all passengers with S$1,000 each to meet their immediate expenses upon departure from Bangkok. SIA has also been covering the medical expenses of the injured passengers, and arranged for their family members and loved ones to fly up to Bangkok where requested.” This event has made other airlines sit up and take notice, and hopefully will become the aviation gold standard for all accidents and incidents, but I doubt it, an example is the minor air con. Incident, reported yesterday involving Qatar Airways, where passengers were left in the overheated cabin for a few hours and the airline has not even released an explanation or press release.

Yes agree, this incident, SQ321 occurred at cruising altitude, meal being served, before it even started any decent for Singapore, and was a short violent and an unexpected rare occurrence.. My post was in reply to a suggestion that aircraft have a buzzer, like cars when seat belts are not used, to ensure compulsory use, see below, what I replied to. “I don't know that the idea is that far out. There have been several times that I thought I was strapped in, but the buckle didn't catch. Having a little flashing light overhead warning me would have been helpful. Also in cases where the seatbelt sign goes on... People just aren't thinking, and a little warning light above their seat would remind them. It would also reduce workload for the flight attendants who have to check everyone's crotch area before landing to make sure we're all strapped in. They've gotta love that part... Expensive? I'm sure it is. But worth evaluating.”

I never said it was not a good to keep the belt on, I previously did about 150 flights a year and rarely did not use my seat belt. My point, is the reality that the airlines, ICAO and IATA are never going to make seat belts compulsory at all times, just look at the new Singapore Airlines turbulence guidelines for crews, issued after this incident. https://time.com/6981948/singapore-airlines-seatbelt-policy-turbulence/ At no time I have tried blamed the airline, I have no idea where you got that from. Maybe look at the full initial thread, and you may understand. Bye and have a good day, also a first being called a gaslighter. 55555

So if I want to stop that silly buzzer, I just put the belt behind me. What is it going to save the cabin crew? They still have to check, window blinds, tray tables, baggage stowed under seats, no baggage on window exit seats, babies/young kids are strapped in, overhead lockers are closed, arm rests are down and seats are upright.

5555 thanks for the laugh. So you suggest seats have a beeper to alert the cabin crew every time someone releases their belt. What next, maybe air bags fitted to the back of seats, as cars and planes are so similar. Maybe airlines could give passengers a token for going to the toilet, the number of tokens based on the length of flight, or maybe give cabin crew the authority to issue on the spot fines, if a passenger releases the seat belt. Given you well thought out and balanced approach, maybe you should email IATA (International Air Transport Association) or ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) as I sure their qualified and experienced, aviation specialists, would then back mandatory wearing of seat belts at all times, and admit they would never had considered it without your guidance.

The airlines are realistic and know making seat belts mandatory is not practical. So are you also saying the cabin crew, should be strapped in all the time also? Or you think their safety is not to be considered or a cabin crew member thrown in the sir will not injury anyone else? If crews are to be strapped in at all times, then no food or drinks! These types of events are rare, as on an average day there are over 98000 commercial flights. You have not considered deep vein thrombosis (DVT) or first and business class flights with access to onboard bars. Pilots base their judgement, if turbulence is expected, on instrumentation and weather radar, pre flight weather reports and forecast and additional information on unexpected turbulence, often passed between pilots and ATC (Air Traffic Control). IATA (The International Air Transport Association) have developed a new data exchange platform called ‘Turbulence Aware’ which is designed to provide airlines with better information for flights. https://www.iata.org/en/services/statistics/safety-data/turbulence-platform/ So no I have not missed the point, I have considered the details and not just a simplistic solution, which the airlines themself have dismissed.

I know you seem to live a vacuum, but have you read anything and understand it, about this incident? This was not a normal turbulence incident, it was a short, less than 5 seconds violent event, that occurred when food was being served. The pilot turned on the seat belt sign only about 8 seconds before in happened. Try reading the facts, from TSIB (Transport Safety Investigation Bureau) preliminary investigation findings. https://www.mot.gov.sg/news/press-releases/Details/transport-safety-investigation-bureau-preliminary-investigation-findings-of-incident-involving-sq321 This is good article of the seatbelt questions. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-09/going-to-the-bathroom-when-plane-experiences-turbulence/103896414?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web The earlier thread from when event started is below for your reference.

From Singapore Airline