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It is not clear from the statement made in the report, but earlier today another report said the exceptions were aimed at elderly relatives and children. I am in the same boat as you, SIM in wife’s name, but to get it changed just means going to AIS shop with passport and her , with ID, and updating/changing details, this is a prepaid account.

The AMLO (Anti Money Laundering Office) expects that only by October 2024 will the screening of the list of names of mule and ghost sims will be completed. Pol. Maj. Gen. Aekrak Limsangkas, deputy secretary-general AMLO said, “Account owner will have the opportunity to change their details, but also exceptions will be made for 3 groups, namely family members, group of people who must be looked after according to a court order and the government or legal companies that sets up numbers for employees to use.” Translated from link. https://www.thaipbs.or.th/news/content/340418

You need to do more than cherry pick one sentence, read the thread. There is clearly posted a ‘back track’ by the NBTC, I even posted the official announcement and a translation, that the change is not starting today, but in the future. I and others have posted the facts and details, what we cannot do is make you understand!

Yes so can everyone at present, you clearly fail to understand that this is a proposed change, i.e. in the future! If the telephone you used to set up mobile banking is not in the same name as the bank account, they are looking to block/close down accounts. The details are in the posts above.

Just logged into my account, no problem. Have you tried the email address, on the log in page, about a sign in problem, see picture below. I also find they reply quickly through their telegram group. https://t.me/hdprime_updates Apologies if you have already tried that,

At the start of this month, Jullong Thaveesri, Director-General of Industral Works stated to Thai media. “The fire at an unlicensed factory in Ayutthaya's Phachi District, which illegally stored industrial waste, was intentionally started to cover up evidence of wrongdoing. The factory operated without a license and had been illegally storing 4,000 tonnes of industrial waste, including spent hydrochloric acid and other dangerous chemicals, in five warehouses. The same factory had previously caught fire on February 29 before the recent incident, which started around 18:00 yesterday (1 May) and was extinguished around 02:00 last night. Authorities suspect that the fire was started by incendiary devices. These devices are made of plastic container, with a cement bottom containing gasoline, with a fuse consisting of a firecracker attached to incense sticks. Additionally, a bottle containing aluminium powder was found inside one of the burnt-down warehouses, which could enhance the effectiveness of incendiary devices.“ On 23 April 2024 after the fire incident at the chemical factory in Rayong, Ms. Pimpattra Wichaikul, Minister of Industry, mentioned that it might be connected to the factory where a previous fire occurred in Phachi District, Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya Province. When asked about the connection between the two fires, and whether or not it was the destruction of evidence. Ms. Pimphattra stated that the two were linked in the matter of the factory owner and the possible burning to destroy evidence, but in this matter, it is better to wait for the conclusion from the police. The fires were previously covered in these threads. https://aseannow.com/topic/1326393-chemical-store-blaze-in-ayutthaya-triggers-evacuation-of-hospital-and-local-community/?_fromLogin=1 https://aseannow.com/topic/1325863-fire-sparks-arson-concerns-at-rayong-chemical-warehouse/

From Thai examiner. “If the name on your SIM card and the name on your mobile banking do not match, your mobile banking will still work today, according to the National Broadcasting and Telecommunication Commission (NBTC). Banks and the Anti-Money Laundering Office (AMLO) are still gathering information on mobile banking users to check if the names on the applications match those on the SIM cards to prevent ghost SIM cards and mule accounts. The banks and AMLO will then pass on the information to the NBTC, which will send it to telecom providers to check the names before forwarding it back to the NBTC. AMLO stated that if there are probable reasons for the names not matching, such as a person having activated mobile banking for their child or elderly parents, the banks will decide whether the users can continue to use the service. The NBTC will meet with telecom providers soon to find ways to make it easier for people who need to change the name on their SIM cards to match those on their mobile banking accounts.“ NBTC announcement and my translation.

Seems there is an u-turn already. “Anyone using a name on a number that doesn't match their account today doesn't have to worry. NBTC (National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission) explains that the new rules have not been implemented yet. Also request more time to coordinate with AMLO (Anti-Money Laundering Office), and network service providers and revealed there will be exceptions. From the news that on 27 May various banks will start using new rules. that the assigned phone number used to connect to the bank account, must be the name of the person who activated the service or registered as the owner of the SIM card. Last night, the NBTC issued an announcement explaining the matter, stating that “Office of the Broadcasting Commission Television business and the National Telecommunications Commission (NBTC Office) would like to clarify that the news about screening mobile banking numbers (SIM cards) linked to bank accounts, is currently only a process in progress.” Translated from link. https://workpointnews.com/around/news/N88UOKP

Story in news section.

Article about the incident and crisis response by BKK airport, and Singapore Airlines (SIA), both in the air and on the ground. “SIA’s rapid actions and clear communications have been widely lauded, starting with the pilot’s decision to land in Bangkok, instead of Yangon. The airline has a bigger station in the Thai capital and medical facilities there could cope better with the emergency. One passenger Josh Silverstone praised the cabin crew for checking on people despite several being themselves badly hurt. Another passenger, Andrew Davies, recalled that the flight attendants were “stoic and did everything they could”. The jet was met at Suvarnabhumi Airport by ambulances and medical workers who ferried victims to nearby hospitals. Malaysia student Dzafran Azmir lauded the airport and SIA staff for taking care of injured and uninjured passengers. By that evening, an SIA relief plane left for Bangkok. SIA CEO Goh Choon Phong met returning passengers on arrival early Wednesday morning and also flew to meet those still in Bangkok.” https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/singapore-airlines-sia-sq321-turbulence-crisis-response-death-injuries-4361101 The video in the article also supports many of the comments made in this thread.

This is translated from a Thai news site. “Mr. Prasert Chandraruangthong, Minister of Digital Economy and Society, said that previously when opening a bank account you could use a mobile phone number or SIM card with a name did not match the bank account name. But due to the current "fraudulent account-fraudulent SIM" problem, the government has a new measure to force the names of mobile banking and SIM cards to be the same. In the case of information discrepancies, the bank will notify via mobile banking that the phone information does not match the account owner's information, and ask users to register at the service centre to update their names to match. If the information matches, mobile banking can be activated normally. Currently, Thailand has 106 million mobile banking accounts, and approximately 30 million accounts where the names do not match the SIM card. Starting 27 May 2024, the goal is to close or suspend approximately 100,000 fraudulent accounts per month. There are expected to be as many as 1 million fraudulent accounts in the system.“

This seems to be new and not sure how it affects anyone. “The Ministry of Digital Economy and Society (DES) is to impose a new measure to protect mobile banking customers from scammers using “ghost” SIM cards and “mule” bank accounts. Effective tomorrow, the names of mobile banking customers must match those on the SIM card registration to activate mobile banking on the account, according to DES Minister, Prasert Jantararuangtong. If the names do not match, he said that the mobile bank account owner must contact their mobile phone service provider to change the name on the SIM card registration, so that mobile banking can be activated. He said that bank customers will be able to use their bank books or ATM cards for financial transactions as usual, even though their mobile banking accounts cannot be used.” https://www.thaipbsworld.com/new-measure-introduced-to-protect-mobile-banking-customers/

Yes those are 2 areas where that is a greater possibility of storm clouds developing, but if it was that simple, flights path would not use them, as turbulence is very changeable, depending on weather, wind, flight altitude, time of year and day, flights paths can also be changed due to ground situations, such a war zone, jamming of GPS navigation systems. Planes also follow flight corridors that are designated pathways in the sky that aircraft follow to ensure safe and efficient travel between destinations. This incident and the Singapore Airlines incident seem to be clear air turbulence, not detected by the pilots, as aircraft use onboard radar that tracks the movements of rain drops in the distance to reveal the turbulent motion of air. Typically, the larger the raindrops detected, the bigger the cloud and storm, and the more turbulent it likely have inside those clouds, so pilots can try to avoid/fly around and also warn passengers to belt up. Here is the link to the current world turbulence map, https://turbli.com/maps/world-turbulence-map/ Anyone worried of flying, can use this link to see how smooth their flight will be. https://turbli.com/

This occurred during meal service. As 8 people required hospital treatment on landing, it can only be assumed that the injuries were minor, cut, bruises and at worse maybe a broken arm, as the plane did not divert. From the Aviation Herald; “A Qatar Airways Boeing 787-9, registration A7-BHM performing flight QR-18 from Doha (Qatar) to Dublin (Ireland), was enroute at FL360 over Turkey about 2 hours into the flight when the aircraft encountered severe turbulence causing injuries to 6 passengers and 6 crew. The aircraft continued to Dublin for a safe landing about 5 hours later. 12 people were treated at the airport, 8 of them were taken to hospitals. The airport reported 6 passengers and 6 crew needed to be treated at the airport and 8 of the injured were taken to hospitals after the aircraft had encountered turbulence over Turkey. Passengers reported food service was just in progress when the turbulence hit. Flight attendants were thrown against the ceiling, food went everywhere. Some flight attendants had scratches in their faces, one lady had her arm in a sling. The aircraft remained on the ground for about 3 hours, then departed for the return flight.” https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/there-was-panic-everywhere-eight-people-hospitalised-among-12-injured-during-turbulence-on-flight-from-qatar-to-dublin/a681371964.html

Singapore Airlines update 10. It states that the aircraft involved has now been flown back to Singapore, so is obviously flight worthy. The investigation team must have downloaded all “black box” data and voice recorders, and were happy to release the aircraft. I would expect further checks, maybe modified C and D checks and maintenance/repairs, before again carrying passengers.

Singapore update no. 9

Porsche do make an e-bike, 55555

Yes agree, this is not what you expect with EV thermal runaway, but the information and pictures give a very limited view of what happened. Some of the details are lost in translation, and this fire proved fairly easy to extinguish, and although the car is a write off, the fire damage was limited. I think it only made the media because it was a “10 million” Porsche, as the headlines gets people’s attention? Hope you enjoy the new BYD Seal.

I don’t believe the whole battery was involved, and there seems to be no evidence from the pictures of thermal runaway, no reports of jets of flame, but again difficult to comment fully without seeing the damaged battery. The technicians did remove the battery, as it was placed in a portable water dam, but remember they had no concerns about damaging the car, connections, connectors, wires or hoses. In the pictures above there is an axle stand under the front of the car, is this to support the battery when everything is undone, as it is not there when the fire is burning? Remember in an emergency normal practices don’t apply, and improvised solutions found. Also there is no information as to what repairs the car was there for. Found this Taycan battery removal guide online. ”Let's remove the car's HV battery from the car. Easy peasy. Follow Porsche's manual. (It says you need some fancy hydraulic trolley to support the battery - but in reality 4 wood pallets will do). Step 0: De-energize HV system. Remove all body panels underneath the car. Step 1: Drain the coolant. Disconnect one hose going to the radiator at the front of the car, disconnect the two hoses going into the HV battery at the front, and then disconnect one hose going to the motor at the rear. Pry the hose lock with a flat screwdriver it will come out. Step 2: Remove the lining in the trunk, there is a lid which you can open and gives you access to the HV connector for the rear motor. Remove the 3 screws and undo the connector. Step 3: Undo the HV connector at the front of the battery + 48V connector Step 4: Remove all the bolts holding the battery to the frame. Including 4 screws that bolt the battery to the rear subframe (and the earth wire, next to the rear right wheel) Congratulations, now you got the battery out of the car:

Seems this business was not illegal because of a loop hole in the current laws. “Standards Specialist Industrial Standards Institute (TISI), Ministry of Industry, said that once a business that has notified the TISI, then officials will go in and inspect, the business model, safety measures for workers and surrounding area, and then do re inspections every 5 years. if an operator does not inform the TISI, It is not considered illegal, because the request for permission to operate is only voluntary, so does not get inspected. This point has become a legal loophole. Allowing small businesses to operate without considering safety and then non-standard cylinders in a dilapidated condition can be reused. The TISI still does not have the power or tools to bring enforcement action against businesses like this, and are unable to verify how many business establishments are considered to pose a risk to the community and their surrounding areas." https://www.thaipbs.or.th/news/content/340368

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Thanks, good information, I have not seen before. Seems also that a brine system was also demonstrated last year by a Norwegian ferry company. Battery Briner, which is a spin-off from Faeroese maritime support and transport company Skansi Offshore, and this system is designed for use on car ferries https://local.fo/faroese-invent-new-method-of-extinguishing-lithium-battery-fires/?amp https://www.emobility-engineering.com/extinguishing-lithium-battery-fires/

Yes I am sure most are unaware of the risks, but that is not just limited to Thailand. I have been amazed how many poorly maintained and badly corroded cylinders I have seen being used, even by large international companies, who’s warehouse/logistic staff just accept anything that a local supplier delivers. The strength and integrity of such cylinders has to be questioned, which this accident appears to be an example of.

Yes one of the ways an EV fire can be dealt with. Plenty of equipment available and sometimes a solution needs improvised like in this case, ranging from large blankets, water dam systems, to high pressure water injections systems. EVs are no bigger risk that many of the goods transported on roads worldwide, and responders have developed policies and techniques for all risks, EVs, NGV, LPG, ICE and dangerous goods that are transported, explosives, gases, flammables, corrosives, toxic substances, oxidises and radiation. Emergency services and manufacturers work to produce guidelines, like posted above. EVs are just another hazard of normal life, and this minor fire was one of many car fires in Thailand, on that day, and only really got reported because it was a Porsche.

Using water on EV fires is a common practice and works better than foam, due the chemical reactions within battery. If you have an electrical fire at home, please do not use water or foam. Foam is made up of water, foam solution and aspirating air, and will conduct electricity. You need to use a dry agent, such as CO2 or dry powder. Also remember that some appliances may hold a stored charged after being turned off.