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^ 300,000 - 50,000 = 250,000 Maybe you should take your "argument" to the very very liberal NYT .https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/29/us/illegal-border-crossings-data.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/29/us/illegal-border-crossings-data.html

https://www.voanews.com/a/huge-number-of-migrants-highlights-border-crisis/7424665.html

See progress the Army Corps of Engineers (including contracts) made in just a few years on the map. Before Biden cancelled the state of emergency that that Trump declared , thus ending work on the wall. If enough work is contracted not going to be close to 20 years. So biden halts work on the wall just in time to fund the Ukraine grift. On a related: over 3 Trillion was wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan. And also related Trump is going to stop the billions to Ukraine.https://www.gao.gov/blog/building-border-barrier-u.s.-army-corps-engineers-contracting-efforts

Yes views are changing: Blacks and Hispanics are shifting in favor of Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/19/trump-poll-support-black-hispanic/

I guess facts are not your strong suit. Trillions ???. But ya all sure are good at digging up "reasons" why it won't work. That is a task for the Army Corps of Engineers. Maybe ya all should do some searching on this border invasion/disaster. Get educated in stead of making cheap potshots from your obliviouness

Not me, I would not defend any thing Trump has done except question the 2020 election count. Just as I questioned the 2000 election that was taken from Gore. I would very very much prefer DeSantis - (1) Who like Trump I assume is going to take action on this disaster/invasion at the border. If necessary declare the national emergency it is and order the Army Corps of Engineers to build a WAll from the Pacific to the Gulf.And I assume would start mass roundups of all the overstayers and those who entered illegally. (2) Send the military into these liberal SAPS run cities to restore law and order. (search for mass looting in the US.) (3) Stop sending Billions down this Ukraine rat hole. For infrastructure in the USA. DeSantis/Trump are the only two inclined to do the above.

There certainly is a problem. I don't know how they are allowed in but they should be rounded up and put on a boat back to bum ---- Egypt. Now who is more likely for the task. DeSantis, Trump or a democrat?

"A relatively small number" How many vaccines did you say you have had? Previous employer card. https://www.voanews.com/a/huge-number-of-migrants-highlights-border-crisis/7424665.html

What is that supposed to mean?? If they came in via legal ports of entry then they are legal at entry. What happens is they overstay their visa and then are in U S illegally. Maybe you should read the link above to clear up your confusion. This category is not same as those who cross the border without visa or US inspection. So the overstayers need to be rounded up and and sent back. The other category can be blocked with a WALL. Comprende ??

No those that arrived by plane had visas and went through US immigration and customs. They were legal but overstayed their visa. The non visa, non inspected that cross are the true illegals. And are more likely to be criminals of all sortshttps://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/08/jorge-ramos/ramos-40-undocumented-immigrants-come-air/

For what it's worth I would very much prefer DeSantis for president. Who would follow through on the wall, restore law and order in these liberal saps run cities, and discontinue this waste of money going to the military industrial complex - I mean Ukraine from that not such a winding road from Afghanistan and Iraq. However, the present choice looks like Trump or Biden unfortunately.

Ya all can talk about the wall until the cows come home, with the progressives and their "reasons" why it won't work. Or until a president declares the national emergency it is and orders the Army Corps of Engineers to build a WALL from the Pacific to the Gulf. Manned by the border patrol and military, patrolled at both ends by the Coast Guard. No ands ifs or buts about it. End of Story.

Don't bet the farm on that Hoss

Yes and the Schadenfreude for the Right against "these liberals" will be worth a million bucks

Agree but it remains to be seen if Trump or DeSantis can correct this institutional mess

A Wall built by the Army Corps of Engineers from the Pacific to the Gulf high enough to stop the caravans. That would also be patrolled by the Coast Guard at both ends.Plenty of money to pay for it by discontinuing this cash outflow to Ukraine. Every liberal always has all these "reasons" why the WALL won't work. Brainwashed, speak for yourself. I don't need Trump or any one else to see this Southern border invasion/disaster. The anarchy,mass looting in the cities permitted by these liberal Saps in local governments. ( That requires the military to take charge) The utter waste of money on this lost Ukraine cause. And I'm getting weary here of repeating facts. So if ya all excuse me I'm going over to X where the correct Right/Far Right thinking prevails.

Hindsight? Speak for yourself regarding Billions and 20 years trying to reform a 12th century country. Where just built schools are promptly blown up by the Taliban.

Bush, Cheney and the rest of that conspiracy should tried in some court for that. But knocking off a war criminal is always ok. And don't have to invade a country for that task.

Vote for Trump or DeSantis.

It is very much more complicated/many layers than that ^ See The Tora Bora Report on pdf . Osama bin laden could have should have been eliminated.https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm

Made out of paper

Let's avoid this rabbit hole on where the billions went. Long gone. It's for sure the military industrial complex is getting billions. Again on that not such a winding road from Afghanistan and Iraq to Ukraine.Meanwhile back in the USA . Those wasted billions are needed for infrastructure: ports, rail, roads, bridges, inner city decay... And a WALL

Saddam was a war criminal. Just because no action taken against others does not spare him. .50 cal sniper teams . Instead the whole Suni government was dismantled thus enabling Shia Iran to get in. After 9/11 Osama bin laden escaped to remote Afghanistan.Army Rangers unfortunately contracted the task to the Afghanistan militias. Didn't work out too well. And a waste of twenty years $