JonnyF

Smart move by Israel. Instill fear into the enemy and limit their communications, while minimizing civilian casualties. Israel playing chess while the savages that started all this play checkers.

I would disagree. It proved beyond doubt that carbon fibre is a poor choice for submersibles going to that depth on regular occasions. Lessons will be learnt. Also, that sub was used for more than just trips to the Titanic. Just like the early days of flying, there were poor designs and casualties until we reached the levels we are at today. You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Even if it was just "for bragging rights" or "the thrill", the same could be said of many dangerous activities that humans have the right to participate in, at their own risk. People must be allowed to make their own choices about the risks they take for themselves.

Because she isn't speaking. Which given her usual word salad followed by a 10 second cackle is a good move. Let's see if she can keep that up for the rest of the campaign. If she can, it could be close.

I'm well aware it was unregulated and a poor choice of material. Carbon fibre is a good choice for planes, not for submersibles. It's strong when being pulled, not when being pushed etc. You are doing a very good job at demostrating someone deliberately missing the point. The point is that is was their choice to go. They knew the risks. It's like base jumping, skydiving, deep sea diving, freestyle motocross. It's obviously risky but as long as it harms nobody other than the people choosing to take the risk then I do not have a problem with it. Many people enjoy the risk. It is part of the thrill. That's up to them, not you or some technocrat working for the government. You leftists can't help yourselves interfering in other people's lives and choices, can you... "Protect them from themselves" 😄.

Oceangate declared it an experimental vehicle, and that passengers could face death. Passengers signed that. They knew it hadn't been tested by regulators and hadn't received certification. Rush spoke about the risks and the materials used publicly on multiple occasions. He wasn't shy of the fact, he even seemed proud of the Playstation controller and the fact some of the fixings were available at a hardware store. I have no doubt the passengers were aware of this. If they weren't they should have been seeing as they knew their lives were on the line. If passengers wanted to research further the suitability of carbon fibre for a submersible hull they were free to do so. The information was out there, freely available. Maybe they did that research and proceeded anyway, who knows? I would have certainly done the research. But they made their choice. They weren't forced on there. It wasn't necessary to get on there. I know you'd like the government to micro manage our lives to the nth degree and decide what people can and cannot do but I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit longer for your utopia. The human spirit for risk and adventure remains uncrushed, for now.

I'm disproving your assertion. It's a shame you cannot see that, but not surprising.

Of course it advances science. 71% of the earth's surface is covered with water. The ocean has multiple possibilities for the future. It's certainly more viable than shooting people into space to live on the moon. Claiming that increasing our knowledge of exploring the depths of the ocean adds nothing to science is ridiculous. There is plenty more to learn about what's going on down there.

The acknowledged the risk of death. It was mentioned multiple times in the document. Not many things riskier than that. If they didn't do their due diligence before signing a document that stated they could die, that is their responsibility. Nobody put a gun to their head and forced them into the vessel. Quite the opposite, they paid large amounts of money to go, while knowing the risk of death. The freedom of choice Chomps. Agency. Personal reponsibility. Would I get in it? Absolutely not. But that would be my choice and they had theirs.

Previous passengers knew. These paseengers knew. They assessed the risks and took the gamble to fulfill a dream. They lost. It can happen, but they had the right to make that choice about their own lives. https://www.businessinsider.com/read-oceangate-waiver-titan-sub-passengers-lists-numerous-death-risks-2023-7

With his money and fame he'll be surrounded by fans/sycophants willing to protect him. It also sounds like he swings both ways and given that drugs are rife in US prisons he may even be able to continue with his "freak off" sessions.

The titan had already been to the Titanic several times, so of course it had been tested in that environment. The occupants signed a document that clearly stated it was a high risk journey, the possibility of death was mentioned several times. Are you suggesting they did not read it before signing? Otherwise, how did they not know the risks?

The BBC has long enabled it's biggest stars. They bend the rules, look the other way, re-interpret the rules etc. to the point that the stars think/know they can get away with pretty much anything. Saville, Harris, Jenas, Edwards are just the tip of the iceberg. It takes police involvement before they reluctantly take the weakest action possible. It's culturally embedded at this point. They need to be defunded. It's a massive grift and the British people should no longer be coerced into supporting this Woke, left wing, state funded propaganda machine that seems to churn out unsavoury characters like McDonalds churn out burgers.

FaceBook seem very selective about the misinformation and election interference that they ban and that which they allow.

A bit like launching people into space, taking people to the bottom of the ocean is inherently dangerous and there will be casualties. They know the risks when they do it, although I do have a lot of sympathy for the son of the Pakistani billionaire as it sounds like he was pressured into going by an overbearing father.

No point making up stories about Harris. The truth is sufficient to derail her campaign.

Good to see Trump taking the high road. No point fighting in the gutter if your opponents have more experience down there.

Oh dear. I knew she couldn't stay quiet much longer. I'd imagine the Democrats are frantically searching for the keys to that basement right now. "Get her back in there for goodness sake, she's exposing herself".

Jailing people for hurty words on FaceBook isn't helping. Huw got away without serving a day though, so you should be OK for now.

No he didn't. Pleb Forever is showing his age.

I stand corrected. Learn something would have been more accurate. Let's hope they do not acquire such information before they start their parade in Gaza. It will be a nice surprise for them.

They're hardly being silent about it. Shouting from the rooftops in fact. That's the great thing about a free press in a Democracy. No doubt Starmer will be clamping down on this soon. He might have to release some more rapists to make space for the journalists.

He understands. He's just incredibly arrogant and the power has clearly gone to his head.

Probably worried about being accused of racism.

Who could have predicted that failing to control your borders would result in such a situation? Oh, wait a minute... 😃

Immigrant trafficks and enslaves a child, gets convicted and then lies about the conviction to get a job working with children and it's the fault of "the right" for "hate mongering"? 😄 Ludicrous even by your standards.😆😆