JonnyF

Is your wife being put up in a hotel free of charge while her application is processed? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/19/cost-housing-asylum-seekers-hotels-rise-home-office

I didn't change the subject. I provided you with the bigger picture (since you raised the subject). Anyway, good luck with the application.

Yeah that's totally gotta be the reason .

I guess they didn't get jealous because they had no feelings for you .

Like many "influencers", she was probably looking to be offended.

It's quite funny to see them. I've seen quite a few youngish farang couples in Cowboy gogos, the women always come in with a superior look on their face and the guys pretend to be disinterested. Within about 15 minutes the guy is really enjoying himself and the girl is looking moody. Then they leave. I really don't know why they bother.

Actually I am. If there weren't so many illegals arriving and using up public funds while simultaneously causing anti immigration sentiment in the populace then the government would be less likely to crack down on those taking the legal route like yourself. Like I always said, I have no problem with legal immigration and I wish you all the best with the application. Illegal immigration causes problems for everyone.

What's the minimum income requirement for people turning up in a dinghy claiming asylum?

Actually I said it depends on the circumstances. 18600 with no rent to pay is doable. 18600 with rent to pay is pretty much impossible. After tax that 18000 is about 16000. I rent out a small 2 up 2 down end terrace in the South West and the tenants pay 15k a year. So that would leave 2 people with 1000 pounds for the whole year before you even pay council tax, water and electricity. Anywhere near London that rent would be at least 50% more. In those circumstances it is clearly not enough. Agree. They should do more than factor in only income but then it gets complicated with things like home owners with mortgages, location, household debt etc. They have to draw the line somewhere. It seems they have got to the point where you are better of turning up at Dover in a dinghy than doing it legally. They should focus on the fake asylum seekers complaining that the Wifi isn't fast enough in their free accomodation.

I don't think 18600 is enough for 2 people, although it depends on the circumstances. For example, if you own your own house then I guess 2 people could just about get by on that but it would be a stretch. They should probably make the rule a bit more sophisticated to take account of non cash assets like house ownership, also the place of residence since living in London is way more expensive than living in somewhere like Birmingham. No way that 2 people with rent to pay could survive on 18600 living in London, it wouldn't even cover rent.

Hunter Biden, the gift that keeps on giving. Well, they say that children are a reflection of the parents. Never more true.

In your circumstances (which are none of my business) I suspect you would meet the financial requirements based on savings, combined income etc. This is clearly aimed at people who bring their partners to the UK with no way of supporting them and expect the state to bail them out. As always, when the government cracks down on people abusing the system a few get caught in the net. That is unfortunate but unavoidable. It's another consquence of the "do gooders" doing more harm than good with their "everyone is welcome" virtue signalling without careful consideration of the economic impact to good, hard working people like you and your family. As for the unemployed, I would drastically reduce benefits for people healthy enough to work so they are essentially forced to work. I would use the money saved to help those who genuinely cannot work and therefore need assistance.

Pedantry of the highest order once again. They belong to the sovereign for the duration of the reign. Secondly, tourists love the Royals, if they are going to visit castles without a monarch they may as well go to DisneyWorld and have a photo with Sleeping Beauty. Finally, That Guardian article is hyperbole. The monies were split between charity and upgrades to real estate and is a tiny percentage of the 1.7 Billion quoted. The Royals make plenty of money for the country as well as perform a role, the opinons of envious Americans are of no interest to us.

Yes, hence they are no longer killing anyone. Now they open hospitals and raise money for charity and the UK.

I would agree that it's diffficult to quantify but let's say it was 50% of that figure, it still means they pay for themselves several times over. This "racism" row is just an excuse to bash the Royal Family because people don't like them. There is absolutely no evidence of this racism. When i ask people for evidence on this thread they basically say "there isn't any evidence but I believe it anyway". Once again it appears that the demand for racism far outweighs the supply .

How have I lost the argument when I have provided links to show that they bring in more revenue to the country than they cost? That is an entirely logical economic argument. All you seem to have to back up your argument is that they have a lot of inherited wealth and you don't like the success of their forefathers (I'm guessing all our family trees have some skeletons if you look back far enough) which led me to my logical conclusion that a lot of the objections to the family (not just you but generally speaking so try not to take it so personally) are rooted in envy. In my experience people who are genuinely happy with their lot do not look over their neighbours fence and complain about what they have and how they got it.

Good question. Which raises the question, if a gay man goes with a Tomboy, does that make him hetero? Or if a straight man goes with a Tomboy, does that make him gay? So many questions, so little time...

But they contribute more than they cost. They are an asset to the country (as long as they behave themselves). IMO the sensible thing would be to keep them, but to strip any that misbehave of their titles. Starting with Harry and after that, possibly Andrew.

But you are only seeing one side of the coin. You are ignoring the money they bring into the country, estimated by Brand finance to be as high as 1.7 Billion pounds. https://brandfinance.com/press-releases/valued-at-67-billion-the-monarchy-is-britains-greatest-treasure Plus the soft power. When people think of Britain they think of the late Queen, the King, Buckingham Palace, the mall, the pomp and ceremony etc. I'd much rather they thought of that than Tony Blair.

Maybe you could practice what you preach?

It's just how I see it. They are doing their duty to the country and on the whole doing it well. I certainly wouldn't want to lead such a life, cutting ribbons and opening hospitals. I see no reason to attack them other than envy of their wealth. The only personal attacks I can see is on the Royal Family themselves. I honestly don't think most people believe they are actually racist, it's just a convenient stick to beat them with. Why? Well I have given my theory and the reasons behind it, feel free to disagree with it.

Agree. The Thais have a very sensible approach to all of this. They know that trans women are not really women, that's why they have a name for them (Katoey) and refer to them as the third sex. They do not scream from the rooftops about being gay, they simply get on with their lives and are generally accepted. That's how it should be. A lot of the problems in the west appear to be coming from individuals who do not wish to just be accepted, they want to stand out, they want to be seen as special. That's why we see such attention seeking behaviour at the Pride marches. Purple hair, overly flamboyant behaviour, indecent exposure etc. It all just screams "look at meeeeee". I disagree with banning the movement though. Just cordon off the parades, keep it away from the general public, keep children out etc.

You really are obsessed. If you are not responding directly to me you are lecturing other posters about me. I really don't need to live rent free Bro. Try to move on...

The Royal family play a role and they play it very well. It seems to me that the only people who object to it are those who are envious of their wealth and maybe unhappy with their own lot in life. There is no reason to change a system that has been working well for centuries so that we can end up with someone like Macron, or even worse the war criminal Blair.

Exactly. Biden is only staying because of Trump, and many people are only voting for Biden because he isn't Trump. US politics is near an all time low. The various factions bickering amongst themselves while the country continues to decline. China must be laughing their butts off.