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7 minutes ago, evadgib said:
After 20 years another month wouldn't have made much difference.... if B-B-Brexit wasn't set for 31 October ????
Surely it's just a coincidence that she's raised it now... ????
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53 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Why not now?
People will assume it's a political hatchet job, which to be fair, it is.
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1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:
Give us a break. She's already admitted to bonking him to friends and colleagues.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/29/world/europe/boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri.html
Trial by Daily Mail ????.
Actually given the courts farcical ruling on Prorogation last week, your probably better off being judged by the media than by the likes of Judge Hale in her Kangaroo court ????.
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17 minutes ago, sandyf said:
Only the delusional would think that there is a great deal to be had with either the US or China, there is a valid reason why both countries have failed with the EU.
"So it's not going to be very difficult to get something that is better than nothing, is it?"
How very true, ask any street girl.
Yes there's a valid reason those talks failed, it called the EU negotiating stance of "Here's a bad deal, take it or leave it". Most leave it.
As for street girls, sorry I don't mix in that type of company so I'll have to take your word for it.
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17 minutes ago, stephenterry said:
I respect your (incendiary) views, but do not agree with them, mainly because it's not factual as at TODAY (not 2016) when 53% of the 77 combined voting population polls indicate a remain outcome.
Which means at a GE the LD party would be given a free rein to contest all marginal tory seats and should gain about 15 more seats than already. So, there won't be a parliament overflowing with leavers - not by a long chalk.
Brexiteers could harp all they like, but it doesn't alter the fact they're in a minority nowadays - a fact that posters on here and johnson chooses to ignore.
Polls? ???? How were those polls before the 2016 referendum?
You might think that Leavers are a minority. I suspect that's because they go quietly about their business and wait until elections to make their opinion known. Remainers on the other hand are a vocal minority, shouting from the rooftops to anyone that will listen, until they get slaughtered at the election and then claim it doesn't count ????.
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37 minutes ago, Boatfreak said:
The UK is a sinking ship, it's whole economy is collapsing, I feel sorry for the Brits that were intelligent enough to understand that this was a bad move, I feel sorry for the young generation that will have to endure the decision of an older generation that will only suffer the consequences for a few years, but the rotten apple has to be removed from the basket so Europe can go on with more important stuff.
Yep, plenty of important stuff for the EU to deal with, even The Guardian acknowledges it.
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4 minutes ago, Boatfreak said:
ZImbabwe?
Funny you should mention that, didn't seem to bother the EU. ????
https://www.theindependent.co.zw/2013/11/08/zim-eu-trade-pact/
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7 minutes ago, Boatfreak said:
We have heard this before. Brexit was going to be an easy deal. 3 years later......
That was with the EU, a protectionist racket acting like a woman scorned.
I'm talking about doing trade deals with the more mature governments around the world. With leaders that don't cut off their nose to spite their face.
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33 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:The same probably applies for taxes and other things. People have to accept the constitutional laws I am afraid, which means to accept they’re living in a representative democracy.
At least you worked out now that there is no one who doesn’t let you leave, but it’s the UK who doesn’t want to leave.
The UK Parliament is trying to stop us from leaving. They may succeed temporarily, but if you think that Brexiteers are going to forget about the referendum result that they won then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
It's only a matter of time until the next General Election, despite the oppositions lack of balls to call one. The swamp will be drained, the traitors and anti-democrats will be removed from their seats and then we will see how much you love the sovereignty of Parliament, when it's full of Leavers as voted for by the electorate ????.
As Cox said, these turkeys cannot avoid Christmas forever. I can wait, as will the rest of the democratic, silent majority that wish to leave.
All Parliament is doing is putting the country on hold, delaying investment and dragging our reputation and currency through the dirt. If that makes you happy then enjoy it while it lasts, because the hour glass is running out for this disgrace of a Parliament ✊????.
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30 minutes ago, dimitriv said:
I googled. And made the conclusion that the UK could not get a better deal.
Now tell me... Why do you think that the UK will get a better deal with the US and China ? They already don't have enough power to negotiate anything better with something small like South Korea.
The EU doesn't have a proper trade deal with US and China. That was my point.
So it's not going to be very difficult to get something that is better than nothing, is it?
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5 minutes ago, dimitriv said:
Quote: "The agreement is roughly in line with the terms of the existing Korea-EU free trade deal."
Where's the better deal?
I'm not your secretary, google the details if you want to know.
Given that we're not paying a Billion a month for OUR trade deal with Korea, not surrendering our fishing waters and opening our borders, I'll take that one rather than the one the EU negotiated on our behalf thanks.
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4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:Neither gives you the parliamentary majority that you need. You know that.
Correct, the people want to leave and Parliament wants to Remain. I am happy you worked that out.
However, as Geoffrey Cox said, turkeys cannot avoid Christmas forever.
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3 minutes ago, stephenterry said:I am well aware of behind the scenes continuity trade deals, and I hope that they bear fruition, because the last thing I want is for the UK to be reincarnated as the sick man of Europe yet again.
Of course they will bear fruition. Why wouldn't they? 2 countries that want to trade, neither one of them with a grudge to bear. This isn't the EU we are talking about, these are independent countries around the world that want to do business, not punish someone for leaving their club.
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2 minutes ago, dimitriv said:And why do you think the UK will get anything better ?
Trump liked the idea of Brexit. And that is not because he wants to give the UK a good deal.
Because we are the fifth largest economy in the world, a great nation with a great shared history with the US. We will be self governing and therefore much more dynamic than the cumbersome, out-dated, un-democratic monolith that is the EU.
If you want to see why the EU cannot get deals, look at the way they have negotiated over Brexit.
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3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:A non-binding advisory referendum. I could ask three people in a pub and get an equally effective majority. You know very well you don’t have a majority for leaving, otherwise you would have left already. You only have a paper tiger.
Yes, 3 people in the pub is comparable to 33 million votes ????. What was I thinking?
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2 minutes ago, stephenterry said:
You do realise that the UK has trade deals with over 40 countries outside the EU as a virtue of being in the EU?
All of these would have to be renegotiated. And if you consider the USA to be a suitable trading partner, I don't share that opinion. Their health standards are abysmal and well below the EU and UK.
Many have already been negotiated but we cannot sign until we leave. South Korea for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49430207
Yes I consider the US to be a suitable trading partner.
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3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:
No one doesn’t let you leave. It’s the UK who doesn’t want to leave because there’s no majority for it.
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9 minutes ago, stephenterry said:
And then what? You do realise that there is NO clean break. There would be continuing negotiations with the EU - because they're not going away - on all the unresolved issues, including future trading agreements and the Irish borders. To think otherwise is not thinking.
In other words, you can check out anytime, but you can never leave.
Yes we'd need to sort out a trade deal. Until then we can deal with them on WTO terms.
No need to get hysterical about it.
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4 minutes ago, dimitriv said:
Do you really think that the UK will get better deals than the EU ? That "protectionist bloc" has much more power than the UK has.
You mean like those great deals the EU has with the US and China?
Pffft, who needs to deal with those minnows.
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8 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:
Isn't this kind of nonsense why Britain wants to leave the EU. Non elected officials melding in politics?
Non elected officials meddling in politics? Sounds like the Miller case.
Don't like a government decision? Got money for lawyers and media coverage? No problem, take the government to court and let the unelected, unaccountable and unrepresentative judges over-rule the decision.
Another gift to Democracy from Remainers who cannot accept losing.
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5 hours ago, champers said:
What is the world coming to when a politician can't fund dirty weekends away with some hot totty from public funds?
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
It seems Remainers are so quick to be judge, jury and executioner. I wonder if it's anything to do with his Pro-Brexit stance? Surely not...
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5 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:----> " In a no-deal scenario, the UK suffers more and, after a period of gratuitous pain, returns to negotiations with diminished leverage. It was never a real bluff because the economic cards were dealt face up. " <----
Sounds like this is going to work out great for the EU. Makes you wonder why they don't let us leave at the end of October and start reaping the benefits immediately ????.
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7 minutes ago, Momofarang said:Thought it was the other way around: a majority of Brits who dream the rest of the world sinks into the sea.
Not at all. We want to be free to strike deals with the rest of the world.
Remainers love to paint Leavers as inward looking little Englanders. It's another strawman argument, most Leavers are very forward thinking and realize that the exciting growth over the next few decades will be outside the EU, and we want to be a part of it.
Of course we will still deal with the EU, but we want to deal with the whole world, not just the protectionist bloc on our doorstep. The Commonwealth, Asia, the US, Africa, South America. Massive potential. Of course the old unelected grey men in Brussels won't like it, but C'est la vie.
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Final proposal - PM Johnson to unveil Brexit offer to EU
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When a UK MP colludes with the EU to undermine the UK government's position, that is traitorous.
I know you Remainers love to try and control the language that others can use, but my description is entirely accurate. I'm sure you hate the phrase "surrender bill" as well. The reason Remainers hate these words so much is because of their unerring accuracy. The truth hurts.
I will add one more. Remainer MP's are cowardly. They don't want an election because they know they will lose their seats. They pretend it's because they don't trust Johnson with the election date when they know full well a one line bill could set the date of the election to be before Brexit. Which makes them liars as well. If they thought they'd win the election, Corbyn would call one.
The lib dems and Labour MP's were voted in on manifestos to honour the result of the referendum and now they have changed their minds. Is that anti-democratic or dishonest? Let's go for both.
So yes, this Parliament is a disgrace. It's dysfunctional. Even the speaker is biased. I'm not sure how you claim it is respected. Most of the country is aware that it's a complete shambles and has nothing but contempt for it, and that includes a lot of Remainers.