JonnyF

I'd like the UK to model it's immigration detention facilities on the IDC in Bangkok also. Maybe not quite as comfortable as the one in Bangkok, but at least a similar level. It would be a good deterrent for those who already made it to a safe country (France) to stay there.

How childish.

More likely the failing government want to avoid thousands of British patriots turning up to cheer Mr Trump while singing the popular anthem, "Starmer is a ******".

It's always amusing when lefties try to blur the lines between immigrant and expat. 😃 I suggest you learn the difference "RobKray", although I suspect I already educated 'you' on this a few months back. You can start here. As someone who was invited (nay, persuaded) to come here to work for a UK company to assist setting up a factory in Thailand, I am most definitely an expat. I am not seeking permanent residency or citizenship, I'm quite happy with my LTR non-immigrant visa (note - the clue is in the name NON-immigrant). I suspect you are another lefty economic migrant who overlooks the human rights issues here in Thailand because the [cough] "services" are cheap, but maybe it's best you don't project your own inadequacies/failures/hypocrisy onto others.

Science based? 😆 Brrroooooooo.

Nonsense. It is a huge deterrent. That's why petty crime is so low in places like Saudi Arabia compared to say, London. And stop trying to sound like that bald kid out of The Matrix. It's not clever. 😃

Yet you live here because it's cheap. Another hypocritical lefty pretending to be new to the forum.

No it isn't. It is weaker. It has caused untold problems with very few benefits. You are just parrotting verses of the leftist Bible.

You don't need to forget your own culture to assimilate. 😆 That's nonsense that you made up. UK culture is indeed great. Is the culture of Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan etc. superior? I must confess I am not aware of all the great Somalian architecture, music, arts etc. Who exactly is the Somalian Shakespeare for example? The Somalian Beatles? The great Somalian inventions. Great Somalian sports teams. Sports invented by Somalians. Great Somalian medical advances. The proud traditions of the Somalian Parliament and justice system. Please let me know. I am not an immigrant, I am an expat. But yes I have assimilated to a large extent. Speak Thai, work for a Thai limited company, pay income tax to the Thai government, own a Thai condo, Thai GF and friends as well as foreign friends, live in a mostly Thai suburb of BKK, eat Thai food, enjoy a draft Singh occasionally. Is that sufficient for you? In many cases immigrants do not want to mix. They like to stay with their own people with the same language, race, traditions and religion. That is one of the problems.

Multiculturalism has clearly failed. Look at the US and the UK. People can immigrate in controlled numbers - but they must also assimilate. Otherwise you get pockets/groups of people that do not mix with each other and in some cases start to hate each other. You get hate crimes like the black guy who killed the young Ukrainian girl on the train before celebrating that he had "got the white b***h". Some might even say the UK has become "an island of strangers".

It happened in London. 17 is over the age of consent in London. Trying to extract more cash from Guiffree's career as a young prostitute and self confessed procurer of other hookers for Epstein is beyond the pale. I'm sure the anti Monarchist Brit haters will jump on board though.

It was great to see the girl who was banned from wearing the Union Jack dress at school speaking at the rally. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15095189/Schoolgirl-barred-school-Union-Jack-dress-tells-Tommy-Robinson-anti-migrant-protest-You-feel-like-British-doesnt-count-culture.html What a brave little British girl. The leftist Britain haters could learn a lot from her.

Hardly. She got paid twice for the same job. The second time, paid millions. A job she volunteered for.

No you are not making sense. It would have been better to simply admit the error than type that garbage in an attempt to obfuscate. 😃

Whatever happened to "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences"?

Not necessarily as revenge. Possibly that. But certainly as a deterrent. Isn't that pretty much the definition of penal justice? You committ a crime and go to jail. In some countries you are executed or physically harmed in some way e.g. hands cut off in Saudi Arabia for stealing. All societies have this concept in some form. As do most religions. An eye for an eye being the most well known phrase in western societies. The alternative would be that you should be allowed to hurt someone but that they are not allowed to hurt you. That doesn't make sense. Where is the deterrent for them to not continue hurting you or someone else?

OK. I will. You said. And I quote... free speech can be hate speech as long as it does NOT advocate violence. Let's say xxxx represents a racial slur. Choose your own. Works best with a bad one. So if I say "Michael Green is a dirty xxxx", that is hate speech by your definition. But if I say "Michael Green is a dirty xxxx and someone should punch him in the nuts", that is NOT hate speech by your definition. That does not make any sense.

Certainly a great country. That's why people want to live there instead of the third world hell holes they come from. You might want to walk around London for an hour. Top tip ; Don't take you phone out of your pocket.

Not what you originally wrote though. 😆 I'll allow you to gracefully/gradually change your position to save face though. I'm nice like that. If you don't reply to this post I will not point out your error in logic again.

Not my speculation. The authorities have confirmed that the 22 year old was an anti "fascist" pro trans killer who assassinated Charlie Kirk. Just as many of us said when we first heard about the assassination.

Yes, you are saying that now that the right is also using the tactic.

But you said free speech can be hate speech as long as it does NOT advocate violence. So what if it DOES advocate violence? You have stated it cannot be hate speech. So what is it? A straight answer will do. This time...

Cool story Bro. Did you get that from The Guardian?

In other words, "We, the left, can kick you in the gonads but you cannot kick us in the gonads". Sorry Bro, doesn't work like that.

So what if it DOES advocate violence? Is it no longer hate speech?