Happy Clappy things to buy out... soft toys to buy in.... these demos always have stupid craze stuff to buy, now its stuffed toys.. this isnt how political change happens.

This is what Thai airways are reduced to .. we are doing 2 flights next month advertising... WOW im impressed.. 

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Good for you Germany at least someone is holding Putin accountable the USA will be joining you rite after we change management here

Accountable for what exactly, Being Russian ?

The media in Spain and others EU countries are peddling a second wave panic story.... politics is sensitive to popularity and they will react... This is Spain shooting itself in the foot after making political deals about tourism, just as France has... Portugal has less cases than either yet it remains on the Q list..  

So what if there are cases, The death rates are all that matter not cases... it was supposed to be all about not overwhelming services not hiding like rabbits and destroying Economies.

Stupid stupid stupid... 

And what pray makes Thai workers unique for picking fruit etc ? anyone can do that work and many nations will for less money, and thats before the plandemic. If i were the business in Sweden or Finland id be getting workers from a different place, no 

I hear the sound of a door being slammed shut on another group of poor rural Thais just trying to make a living...

10 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

I see the logic bypass was successful

Logic would say more are going to die of the reactions and loss of livelihood, wages, and businesses than the virus already projecting untimely deaths due to lack of services, check ups and medical response during this plandemic is going to be in the millions. Not counting the knock on effects of closing down the world is still happening and mounting.. crime will rocket as people fail to make ends meet and so will ill health, both mental and physical. 

You havnt thought about it at all properly have you ? 

4 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

If people could rationalise explain the benefits of Brexit without going to a racist/xenophobic over drive then i'd be more comfortable. Like i say, i've accepted the result, i just would be interested in the area we are going. We seem to have <deleted> of China, USA no trade deal on the horizon, India have said they want more rites for their students in the UK and easier freedom of movement (which will replace eastern Europeans with Indians). So where do we go ?

 

I honestly want this to be a success, but no one can explain the plan. 

The plan is to adapt to a changing world as it always has. 

I honestly dont know what people expect 6mths before we have even left, its frankly ridiculous to expect or want answers and just shows how weak and unprepared to forge their own futures so many are.. The general population are mostly plebs, havnt a clue about much outside their own interests and think the future comes with a manual and guarantees, its never been like that. Things happen and nations/govs react according to circumstance, varied factors and political ideology whilst going in a chosen general direction. Thats where Brexit is atm, its changed the general direction of the UK, possibly the world and the details arnt important as they will change as time passes. 

The world 6mths ago looked nothing like it does now does it ?. Was there a plan for that  ? yup actually, agenda 2021 explains it, the Rockerfeller foundation brainstormed it as one possible future 2 decades ago and the world economic forum also expected  it and produced papers on future plans for the world in general. Most here for sure wouldnt believe any of if yet the papers and documents are all out there and were written by connected foundations and people not some bloke in a pub. Agenda 2030 is the next step and published by the UN, its aims are utterly impossible unless there are millions less on earth.. There is also the ageing population economic timebomb coming all across the developed and semi developed world over the next 40 years, something has to change or chaos will ensue anyway. Simple conclusion is a lot of people have to die to avert collapsing nations and power structures. These topics have general plans but the details come later and adapted as needed as time passes. I prefer to look at the reality of whats probably coming if even half the wishes and wants of people is to happen... it cannot for everyone. The world is not going to be and never has been a utopia and all the solutions are bad for the global population. 

That might sound crazy to some and thats fine, they arnt my concern, only my family is and have always had that in mind.

Most here im sure have vested interests in Thailand, I commiserate as I used to as well but adjusted my life plan once I realised where Thailand and the world was going a long time ago, planned accordingly and moved everyone to the UK for family security. So for me I care not about the exchange rates but rather the longterm future of being able to keep my family together permanently, Thailand has never been able to offer that security and less so every year.  I would strongly advise anyone in Thailand to plan for the eventuality of an having to leave unless PR a citizen or connected. 

As to the Singapore on Thames story its certainly been a general possible aim in the past, Not changing to the Euro was a massive clue wed be leaving at some point along the way.. Financial services has for a long time been our main revenue and hopefully that is about to become supercharged. The rich, business and elite will want somewhere in the west and the UK has more offshore havens than anyone else, we know how to manage it, have stability, exceptional international standing and reputation and we now also have independence.. Another massive hint is our reaction to HK and the open offer to settle in the UK. ALL currency as we know it is going to change, no one doubts that in the financial sectors and is generally accepted, the details are still being decided on how and when but its definitely going digital in part at least. BOE will go crypo from roughly 2025, probably in tandem with some other major currencies, does anyone think all this adding numbers on a keyboard to prop up the global economies is going to last or continue in perpetuity ? I dont. Something must break and break it will 100%, only the timing remains. Do people think the entire globe is going to adjust without serious upheaval in some places ? 

There will be more options if we are calling our own shots and flexible to change rather than an ever bickering EU and taking orders. After 2000 years of Europe carving out very different cultures and economies and frequent wars to think it will sit around and sing kum by ya for very long is kidding themselves. Are jobs being created at the speed they are going away ? nope Low birth rates and an ever ageing population guarantees an utterly broken economy long before enough die naturally.The EU will only survive peacefully if it has 50% less in it or 100% more to pay for the aged and that would mean mass immigration and that will in turn bring continental cultural clashes and serious unrest anyway. 

Im sorry but i do not see the next 15 years as being anything but painful and tumultuous for the world let alone the UK, we are well overdue for a global conflict of some kind AND a global currency reset, perhaps both. 

So nope I do not need or ever want a detailed plan, only the rough direction. It seems people are too weak and scared to deal with lifes surprises, weak men guarantee hard times but hard times make strong men... so its all good in the longrun. Its also possible we will discover free energy or aliens might turn up with a spare planet or another dimension to go colonise.. 

 Wow after a reread that sounds wayy out there ..Except theres nothing ive said that cant be backed up with science or appropriate documents, mathematical method or evidence.

ahh well If id have come in here a year ago and said the world would be closed down and there would be zero tourists in Thailand by the next year id have sounded just as crazy... 

Strange times to be living in and no doubt more to come. 

Have a great weekend everyone. 

Peace ... 

11 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

 

How has you life changed for the better because of Brexit ?

 

 My life and many others has already changed for the better simply by showing on this island the will of the people and democracy still matters.

You might not understand the enormity of that statement but I assure you the vast majority of thinking voters do no matter if they voted remain or leave, so does our political system ( such as it is ) and the politicians. Its importance cannot be understated. 

I will not answer that circle jerk question again. 

3 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

 

What are you on about? A house is something that is tangible. Self determination is a state of mind. If it makes you feel good then great but in all reality it's not going to change any of our lifes for the better whatsoever

 

If you said to me cost of living will go down then then I'm fully on board but all indicators point to the contrary

 

 

Yea, you know exactly what im on about, unlike you im not in the for sale camp. 

Thanks but my life and many others has already changed for the better simply by showing on this island the will of the people and democracy still matters more than coin, yours is not my problem. 

Brexit has in fact changed the world and reminded people that voting still matters and things can be changed despite the push for globalism communism.

56 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

 The punishment for adverting alcohol is up to one year imprisonment and/or a fine of up to 500,000 baht, A 50k fine is hardly over the top.

Spare us your holier than  thou its the lawwwww, the Thai gov couldnt give a rats about its own laws and never has unless it suits or needs a contribution.  The place is corrupt to the core, especially at high office. 

This is simply a shake down of local police making a few baht on easy meat, nothing more.. bit like prostitution is illegal and has been for decades but wait.................. oh yea TIT  hub of hookers.... should'nt you be getting your halo serviced ?

Just now, RuamRudy said:

Our parliament just gave away our right to self determination to an unelected quango, and then voted to emasculate itself by giving up any right to challenge that quango. In what parallel world is that called self determination?

 

You have been conned by corrupt people and you have inflicted that upon the whole country. Cannot be bribed? Good god, you are having a laugh or haven't watched the news this week. Open your eyes, man! It is not too late to realise that they have made a fool of you. 

How Ironic that something you so desire is wrong when its achieved by another... those that can do, those that cannot only complain about those that do. 

One word... jealousy.

21 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Hundreds of post yet not a single, tangible reason.

Not one.

Don't be silly, I just gave you the main one last post, Self determination. The very same reason you get all dewy eyed and harp on about independence yet when given that option your own countrymen prefer to continue be ruled by the English... Thus we may conclude the Scots can be bought and bribed whilst the English apparently cannot. 

This is why England rules our island to this day and will continue to.

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 the Army will employ strict measures to keep the returnees in quarantine facilities and make sure that no one can slip out.

Thats nice but does imply Thai soldiers cannot follow simple orders, thats probably true but guys... optics 

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Another soldier was sent to the hospital as well due to an injury on his finger that required a surgery.

lol 

3 minutes ago, Grumpy John said:

Hordes...normally associated with 100 of thousands or more but in Thailand 300 qualify for the title!

Times sure are tough

38 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

 

OK I'll bite. Why are you happy that we are leaving the EU ?

 

Ive been posting about that in hundreds of threads since before the referendum. No disrespect to you but im not doing all that at this stage,  literally on hundreds of posts I spent enough time telling people here why we should and would vote out when the chance came and we did. Little has ever been about the financials but even that was a good reason to leave, this is where the salty tears start and end tbh, I began to laugh and have been ever since... it dosnt matter to me if the UK has a recession for a decade as a result, ( it wont though ) you cannot put a price on self determination ( such as it is ) . Turns out I and millions of others were correct, when it came down to it the English by a very large majority are not for sale, despite all the bribery and attempts at destroying everything built over the centuries England remains ruled by England and with it goes the UK.

I care not one jot for those who would try to bring self rule to an end, especially those who measure life by financial wealth and coin, they are the ones for sale and I have no respect nor time for them and there are plenty of those on TV. 

Just a reminder that the UK is OUT, the salty tears of the losers here is still flowing and its not even December yet ????

Stay mad please, be funny to see how mad the losers can get over the next year or so, especially the SNP when it becomes clear there is no leaving and blew the one chance they had this century ... ahh well I guess some are born to rule, others to be ruled.