NALAK

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Absolutely keep your house in the UK. If you get chronically sick and wish to live, you may have to move back to the UK for NHS treatment. If you can't afford to live here on the rental, or savings, you may need to rethink your plans.

As I don't work, life is a holiday, but village life is pretty boring if you like some facilities like shopping and cinemas etc.

Good luck.

You may have to rethink about the NHS, you may not be Eligible to use it because you have lived outside the UK for awhile.

outside UK as ordinary british citezens act after 3 months out the country no longer entitled to NHS care, irrespective of previous payments. well thats what my letter says from doctor. how ever if i go back and say i am returning to live permanatly then i can get it again. well if i aint there i dont need it, idiots gorden brown again. going for hols in few weeks first thing is new doctor and hey i am back for good can i register then keep by mouth shut about thailand, failing that jump in back of truck in Calais, dress up in bed sheet and get free dental and health care next day

only one way to find out and thats do it, read 1000 post and you still will never know, for me was paradise in samui 10 years ago, lasted about 5 years then slowly the appeal went and it became the norm, after 8 years left and live about 10 miles outside Pattaya and life is interesting again, Thai village but expressway in patters in 15 mins. since moving from Samui partner/wife of 9 years was closer to family more and more and now divorced recently, point is as many will agree nearer to family the more problems. the house thing well it can never be yours, , i would not buy here,i keep a place in the UK rent it out, rent covers my rent outright here and then some. my house in England i own outright 100% here not possible, at some stage i would hazard a guess from being here 10 years 80-90% that you will have problems with the house and the thai owners as in her family. i go to Uk once a year get non o and do visa runs, 5 hours there and back once every 3 months. anyway i am sure you will be guided by future wife in the direction that suits her.

holiday no it aint, many things are stacked against you, better than UK yes by a mile but its a roller coaster of ups and downs.

this is my opinion but you obviously have to make your own decisions, wild horses would not drag me to live with family in village.

beer is flowing out in the country just outside Pattaya, whiskey and beer being served in the thai bars, guys sat outside drinking outside the mom and pop stores. ban only applies to farang bars

guess the only way it will stop is if people stop going but that is unlikly to happen. maybe just maybe new goverment may do something but would imagine they have other things to sort first. places in greece and spain have similar partys ianapa and ibiza. whist there is a demand there will be a supply. when a Thai official threaten the news team say bad things and you will be kicked off the island its clearly well run by local groups and gangs whatever.

sad for the victems but they go of there own free will.

hope both murdock and his son do time in prison for this disgusting act. hacking phones of murdered children, the war dead and even 9/11 victems. how low can one get. every viewer of fox news or sky or the Sun newspaper is condoning there actions IMHO. cut off news corp, not legally just the public stop watching and buying. hit them where it really hurts

Interesting topic we have been using some chemical for our resort it says glycine derivate 48% isopropylamine salt 38% n-phosphonomethyl glycine

Also says glyphosate isopropylammonium

Do you know anything about this and would you consider it safe to use we dilute about 120 ml into 40 gallons of water

It takes around 5 days to kill off the weeds produced by monsanto

i use it around my property Monsanto developed the product glyphosphate, takes about 5 days as it prevents the roots taking in food so plant dies slowly over 5 days, not instantly like paraquat. Monsanto said it was safe to let cattle back into a feild day after using glyphospate, where as paraquat leave few days. the other products seem to be used in the make up of the glyphosate. found this in google about one of the contents. i was BACIS qualified ( means years at uni) to advise on use of both products in in UK so would say its ok to use for what your using for. i certainly use it around my house. problem as differnt strenghts of glyphophate so weaker the contents in the bottle the more you have to use. if the plants die your using enough if they dont it needs to be stronger thats the way i work with it. hope that helps but i would have no concerns

Chemical feedstockGlycine is an intermediate in the synthesis of a variety of chemical products. It is used in the manufacture of the herbicide glyphosate. Glyphosate is a non-selective systemic herbicide used to kill weeds, especially perennials and broadcast or used in the cut-stump treatment as a forestry herbicide. Initially, glyphosate was sold only by Monsanto under the tradename Roundup, but is no longer under patent.

i would go with th edont argue way, if motor bike taxi guys sat about i politly ask is it ok to leave here, usually a smile and a yes, arse licking what ever they see it as respect, i just dont want the hassle, if they say no would just say ok and move it.

What is the meaning of this post, Here foreigners work without problems since 20 years ago. (10 in my case).

Just leave some kind of business to the islanders (dancing/clubs, boat trips, prostitution, drug dealing, etc)

If you are clean nobody harass you.

We don't have mafia in Koh Phangan, capisce?

so no Mafia but you cannot go into the dancing/clubs, boat trips, prostitution, drug dealing, etc areas or i guess you get a problem with organised crime syndicates. so who organises the charge for getting off the boats for the full moon. its a kind of mafia which is prelevant all over Thailand

Thats a ridiculous exageration and you know it......you are becoming/have become a very predictable troll.

They are just protecting the business they have. Why should they let rich foreigners come in and take all the rich pickings? I know they ain't that bright here and you're unlikely to ever see a Thai rocket scientist but they ain't that stupid.

I know from your posts that Pattaya is perfect, the Babylon of the asia region, but how is it so different there? Oh thats right .....there really IS a mafia there and it certainly isn't Thai, is it Boris.

read the definition of big C of what a mafia is. the lenghts they would go to to to protect there business would go beyond what is classed as legal. was not the police cheif kicked out for having no control of the crime. dont tell me the drugs sold at the full moon party are not controlled by a group on the island. the boats to and from the party also organised by criminal gangs. your reference concerning pattaya is rather childish, whats pattaya got to do with the thread. ok please show where i have said pattaya is perfect where is your source??? if you read my post it says such mafia style activities operate throughout thailand, that includes pattaya and even the country area of chon buri where i live.

^ Gramoxone - that's the one they use (my post #4) on the farm property.

No gloves or mask, just out with a backpack sprayer.

total madness, heres what they have coming in the not to distant future ( Link). i just read your post again China exports paraquat to thailand one of its biggest importers. i read it as the other way round, but china is the exporter, i read it wrong. as this link shows its licensed in USA as it is in UK. its really tough to get it in UK. if they are spraying near buy i would close windows and stay inside until finished. it is diluted of course but still a lethal slow painful killer. many a british farmer took his life this way, surly shot gun under the chin must have been better option. i was the manager of Ag business and we used to store the stuff, what a nightmare, poison book, police, water authority, fire brigade, local authority health and safety all coming with do this do that, storeage to be able to contain 3 times amount of liquid held. i wanted to stop storing the stuff but head office insisted we did, but it was my neck on the block if anyhting happened.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001085.htm

BKK airways are doing a sea to sea promotion in Pattaya so pattaya to samui or phuket, funnily enough the Samui 2 night stay is 2000 baht more than the phuket 2 night stay. now considering the plane stops in Samui on its way to Phuket is confusing or is it greed. cannot work that one out.

Evey three months whenever a buddist holiday comes around do we have the same repetitive arguments about why non buddist aren't allowed to purchase alcohol. Jeez if you're life revolves around alcohol so much I suggest you need help, give your liver a break and have a couple of days off. We all chose to live in a different country and so just get on with it and accept some of the cultural aspects, instead of expecting a wholesale transfer of western ideals to Thailand. We have to bend to suit Thailand, not the other way round. If Thais choose to disrespect their own culture by drinking (on days like today) that shouldn't be our cue to copy and do the same.

Clearly by allowing hotels to sell alcohol to guest, Thailand has shown a degree of flexibility and understanding towards its visiting guests. As residents we should know better as we pride ourselves on integrating with the locals, don't we?

i will intergrate tonight with the locals in my village and go and share a bottle's of whisky and some cokes. whats the tourist to do who make up the majority of foriegners here,there not here to intigrate. think outside the box its not about expats.

It's a silly law that doesn't make any sense.

It's all about control....the big boys floating around in the saffron need appeasement!:jap:

yes and they seek in i would say in hundreds down walking street and soi 7 and 8 in the mornings where all 5 main principals are broken. i cannot understand how they can ask working girls in bars for money just does not add up and makes me loose any respect i could possibly have for the religion. and many girls now show there contempt for them by simply turning there backs on them deliberatly, and who can blame them.

thailand should come out and portray its self through TAT as a country where alchohol is banned on many days in Thailand, then everybody knows before they book holidays and spend hard earned cash elsewhere, travel 24 hours then have 2 weekends of your holiday with closed bars. people spend hard earned cash to come here with a picture of an easy going fun country to come and have a good time, then bars closed for 2 weekends. yes expats can stock up, whats the tourist to do drink out of mini bar in room. theres one hell of a party arranged 5pm to 1am in a certain hotel that owns a go go bar, girls will be in at most bikinis, drink will flow freely participants will be buddist. i was invited but will not be attending because it will be rammed full i think. was bored with beeing asked why farang not come, well guess going to be asked even more. meanwhile vietnam is leaving thailand in its trail even America has said its courting other countries for an ally in the region.

1 god, thats money, and that s the root of ALL evil.

http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/budethics.htm

try to educate myself on Buddism and indeed for that fact the Muslim relgion. the link goes into basic buddism and the rules and guideline but it is not some thing i reckognise with the buddist way of life here. i would like to think that tomorrow when i drive around the village i wont see locals buying and drinking alchohol but i know i will. again it will just be a hard line taken on tourist areas.

i wont drink on the 2 days because i hate all the messing about with coffee mugs and closed shutters etc, but for people coming here on holiday who are non buddist after already 2 weekends of closures really does not make sence. Thailand seems quite happy to sell as much alchohol as it can to tourist, and also consume it in vast quantaties.

even seen temple fairs on budda day selling alchohol when all the bars were closed but in the grounds of the temple buy what you like from the vendors. soi 7-8 and walking steet have dozens of monks every morning, looking for money from the bars and working girls. cant get my head around that one either.

glyphospate is is systemic and kills he plant by starving the root of food, could possibly be that, i use it around the garden. paraquat is highly toxic it wont be that as its residual and stays in the soil preventing anything from growing again for a while. many people use for suicide . not a nice way to go. i just had pa pa water installed as to many sprays around where i live. if we sold paraquat in Uk had to be to a known proffesional person, the poison book that was kept in a safe had to be filled out and was regularly inspected by police. amazed it can be purchased off the shelf here. 24 d is selective broad leave killer which could also have been used. those guys spray it on and dont even where a mask, madness they will be dead in years. glyphospate used a lot in UK and i suspect USA on oil seed rape to desicate it. but yes if your drinking from a water course near by i would be worried

safety measures, not a chance it can be purchased in home pro

Hi Nalak,

Is it true that paraquat is highly toxic - kills humans by paralysing the lungs so the persons actually dies from lack of air ,It is one of the most common suicde methods in many agricultual communities however it is not a residual in the soil. Try using it mixed with muddy water and you will find it is ineffective as a herbicide. There are a few different formulations like Triquat,Diquat .amongst others so perhaps the one u see being used has other residual herbicides in it.

The selective broadleaf weed herbicides that u mention contain other chemicals from a similar group of chemicals but as i said in my previous post, 24D is a non selective . In the professional turf industries we tend not to use them anymore and there are much more effective, less toxic and more envirionmentally safe chemicals but unfortunatly the huge chemical companies tend to dump their unwanted or surplus chemicals in markets such as Thailand.

24d slective broad leaf weed killer google 24d first on the list states slective broadleaf killer i sold it under brand name grazon http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1TSEE_ENUK346&=&q=24d+weed+killer&aq=0p&aqi=p-p1g4g-s1g3g-s1&aql=&oq=24d

paraquat will prevent regermination for upto 2 weeks as its residual in the soil, where as glyphophate is not. sold paraquat as gramoxone and glyphosphate as round up.

35ml can be lethal dose.

all there to be googled and confirmed, regermination can be effected for upto 14 days with paraquat as its residual. http://www.jstor.org/pss/25555378

either way nasty stuff and is why i just had pa pa installed.

apparantly Thailand is one of the biggest exporters of paraquat an awful lot to China. if its for home use upto them but thailand is loosing contracts with major western buyers as repeated warnings of over use of chemicals went unheeded.

turf industry was interesting we supplied, wembley stadium, old trafford and rangers not directly but through growers we supplied seed to.

still think alot of the PC countries like the UK who have made such a hash of it and made people racist by being pro black or asian, lowering entry standards to police, fire brigade etc have a lot to learn from how Thailand deals with racism. simple this is the way it is dont like it theres the door. overall the Thai system deals with what has to be one of the worlds biggest melting pots and genereally we all get on forigners and Thai alike. Britain, has made a right hash as has many european countries, and now far right parties are going from strenght to stenghth. then goverments tell us we are ignorant of the facts and should not do it. whilst they live in ivory towers well away from the mixing pots they have stirred up. i take the Thai system every time.Its a Buddist country period!!! other religions tolerated.

The prize is probably limited to Asians not because they don't want Farangs to win it, but because they don't want Kenyans to win it.

Wasn't it won last year by a Kenyan and they had to 'disqualify' him so that a Thai could be the winner?

It's still racism though.

Must be something about that "Kenyan culture" that makes them so damned fast! It's a jing thing.

altititude. culture, physical style of legs, so i just read when googled it

ah well at least the ladies are raicist in favour of us farnags, not like thai man want farang so something good to come out of the racism thing

Not so sure you got that one right, more like "i like farang he have big money"

still a form a racism though, just a reason for the racism, and they are racist even towards dark skinned people with money. still i have to live with down side of being a white rich farang racism so the posative side compensates.

Low season huh? my house has been booked 70 percent since December.

house booked 70% and you base that on the economy of the island,, not a very good guide to how things are, world wide problem not just Samui but 1 house i Samui is hardly a good scale to work on.

good luck with Pee Nok at Samui immigration, if theres away to jerk you around or con you out of cash he will do it.

my main concern would be spending out all the dollar, morally well i would not give a dam_n about that, since when did that come into any thing in this part of the world. seems the way you are doing it is ok

I was always on non o going to malaysia for years every 3 months, got a job and changed to non b and permit no problems. was in Samui though, pattaya are definatly tighter.

glyphospate is is systemic and kills he plant by starving the root of food, could possibly be that, i use it around the garden. paraquat is highly toxic it wont be that as its residual and stays in the soil preventing anything from growing again for a while. many people use for suicide . not a nice way to go. i just had pa pa water installed as to many sprays around where i live. if we sold paraquat in Uk had to be to a known proffesional person, the poison book that was kept in a safe had to be filled out and was regularly inspected by police. amazed it can be purchased off the shelf here. 24 d is selective broad leave killer which could also have been used. those guys spray it on and dont even where a mask, madness they will be dead in years. glyphospate used a lot in UK and i suspect USA on oil seed rape to desicate it. but yes if your drinking from a water course near by i would be worried

safety measures, not a chance it can be purchased in home pro

ask a thai, tee nii copy gonjere there are loads around obviously show them your key, always works for me

quite a few around Leam Din