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Was that "next" sessioin at a Red Pin charger? It's gotta be at a Red Pin charger for the free/reduced rate.

Have you successfully registered for Plug & Charge? If not, the free/reduced rate at a Red Pin charger will not be used; instead, your credit/debit card will be charged.

Knock on wood (my head)....but I got my 8th free charge today. I've been using four different Red Pin chargers that I happen to pass in my weekly MIL visit and my daily grocery runs here in the Bangkok and Nakorn Pathom areas. I just plug-in and in about 30 to 60 seconds the charging automatically starts with zero need to use the ReverSharger app. After getting the Plug & Charge setup it's been smooth sailing.

The BYD Dolphin registrations spiked way up in July. I expect the spike is the result of below late June promtion/price cut. Also, the BYD Atto is in 2nd place for the year vs the BYD Seal ....guess the article author forgot to sort the Total column...or he didn't forget and it just didn't sort properly.

A similar thing happenned on my Atto back in late Dec 2023...specifically the day after the car had its first service checkup at 3 months/5,000Km. Actually I ened up having this checkup done at about the 2 month/4,000km point. After the checkup I drove it back home which was about a 10km trip....used the brake numerous times....quiet as a mouse. The very next day the wife and I setout on a trip which would be about 300km roundtrip. But about 25km into the trip I noticed whenever I pressed the brakes I would hear a squeal coming from the front brakes. After driving about another 25km the brake squeal remained whenever pressing the brake. So, we decided to abort the trip and head back home with a stop at the dealership that did the checkup the day before. All driving since the checkup had been on smooth pavement.....no mud, gravel, dirt, etc. HOWEVER, right after I did a U-turn where this particular U-turn had 4 right turns to complete (not a classic U-turn) which involved more than the average amount of turning to complete the U-turn the squeal was gone. I pressed the brakes over and over for the next 10km or so....no squeal. So, did another U-turn and continued on with our planned 300km trip with no brake squeal. That was 8 months ago now....been no brake squeal since then. I guess that U-turn to head back home cleared whatever was causing the squeal....maybe some road debris caught in the braking assembly, maybe XYZ.

As I've mentioned before the autolife and car250 stats don't always match-up with DLT stats because they sometimes count BEV in categories other than RY1 when their article says they are only counting RY1 BEVs. Like in above autolife article/weblink they count 4 "Skywell" BEV for July in the RY1 BEV number when in fact the DLT lists the Skywell BEV in the RY3 cateogory, not the RY1 category, as shown in below DLT snapshot for July.

I don't think the registration lag time is 3 to 4 months....more like 1 to 2 months. I think the reason the Ciaz continued to show a lot of regristrations in June and even around twice its normal amount in July (which could imply a 3 to 4 month registration lag time) is simply because the Ciaz is still on sale today/mid August for as low as Bt378K just like during ints 1 Mar-7 Apr promotion. It's like the promotion just continued on...got exteneded...typical of the cut throat pricing that's being going on for the last 8 months or so for EVs "and ICEVs like the Ciaz." Snapshot from Suzuki web site as of 13 Aug 2024 https://www.suzuki.co.th/model/ciaz

Not really. Over the years there are quite a few posts on AN describing how some people called SSA trying to find out if SSA received their 7162 but the SSA customer rep couldn't see anything in their system although the 7162 had been received & processed. Do it online if possible; otherwise, contact SSA like Manila for this part of thw world.

When my credit card got charged on my first three tries at a ReverSharger "when I thought I was suppose to be getting it free" I emailed ReverSharger once with receipts basically saying I was mischarged...please give me a refund. That was 6 days ago....I never got a response and not refund. Now as I talked earlier in the thread it turns out I was not using a Red Pin charger....it was just a ReverSharger Shell (seashell) charger. That was before I realized the free charging was only available at a ReverSharger Pin charger and not at a ReverSharge Black Pin or Reversharger Shell (seashell) charger. But it was at a ReverSharger Shell charger where I got the Plug & Charge and free charging privilege activated/setup. Although the free charging privilege can be activated at any ReverSharger charger (Black Pin, Shell Pin, or Red Pin) it's only the Red Pin chargers that will provide free charging. I've been wanting to try two Red Pin charging sessions "in the same day" to satisfy my couristy of whether there is any fine print like maybe only one free charging per day. If I ever get the chance at a "not busy" Red Pin charger I'm going to stop the charging before I reach 100% and totally close that charging session.....THEN I'm going to plug in again to finish up to 100% to see if that 2nd charging session is also free. Just another little bit of curiousity I want to satisfy.

Under this free/reduced rate promotion unless I happen to be driving by the charger during my routine driving (i.e., groceries/shopping runs, visiting the MIL, just out & about, etc.) and the charger is immediately or almost immeidately available I will not wait around long to use the charger. For something like this I will not set in a queue for much more that 10 minutes and only if I checked the charger display where it shows the car currently being charged will be done within about 10 minutes. Us retirees have time to spare. And generally I would only stop to charge if I was around 60% or less OR the charger was immediately available. Yea, I'm not a queuing type of person for anything unless I got no choice OR I'm very curious about doing something at least once or twice which requires some queue time. Now that I have my curiousity satisfied with 4 free Red Pin chargings under my belt I only plan to attempt the free charging when a charger is available when I happen to be driving by a Red Pin charger during my normal day-to-day driving. And that normal day-to-day driving really only has 2 or 3 Red Pin chargers....1 of them on a grocery run to a Foodland I usualy go to around twice a week....and 2 on the route to the MIL's house I generally got to once a week. My home wall charger will remain the car's primary source of electrons except on those lucky days I can use a Red Pin charger. 😄

Yeap....definitely some unhappy BYD customers out there with this free/reduced rate charging campaign/promotion like the guy I talk about below Got my 4th freebie charging today worth Bt90. I only charged from 89% to 100% because the wife and I just happenned to drive by the same charger we got a 2 other free charges at....a charger about 20Km outside western Bangkok. The wife and I were coming back from a run to a market we visit around once a week....the charging app showed 1 or 2 chargers being available probably for 30 minutes but about 10 minutes before actually getting to the charger none were available. When we got to the charger at a BYD dealership I decided to turn into the dealership to see if there was a charging queue....maybe even get out and check how much longer each charging car would be. When pulling in a saw one car in a queue and then decided to not get out and check the charger...just leave. As I was turning around to leave the dealership the security gaurd came over and said wait "just a little bit" as both charging cars were close to being done. So, we decided to wait. Within a minute or two one car finished charging and the guy 1st in the queue pulled into the charging spot and "tried" to start charging. A few minuteslater the other charging spot opened up and I pulled in, plugged in, and started charging automatically. Now back to the "guy who tried to start charging" who also had an Atto. He couldn't get the charger to start charging. He tried for several minutes while standing next to his car, with the guard's assitance, and calling the ReverSharger Call Center. Then, with his Atto still plugged in he walked away to call the Call Center again from within the air conditioned dealership and also complain at the BYD dealership folks. Just before my 20 minute charging siession was ending (i.e., I'm almost at 100%) he finally comes out of the dealership unplugs his car and leaves. Never got his Atto to start charging but left his car plugged in the whole time....around 22 minutes. So, for around 22 minutes he hogged a charging slot without charging as he called ReverSharger and also complained to the BYD dealership folks. Another "unhappy" customer with the BYD free/reduced rate charging campaign, but he shouldn't have hogged that charging slot the whole time he was complaining to the ReverSharger Call Center and the BYD dealership.

Above was a cut & paste from the DLT registration stats for July and June for the R.Y.1 caegory. Below is a cut and paste from below car250 website providing its version of June and July registration BEV stats but it does not say if it's for the R.Y.1 category only or they have included some numbers from some other categoaries also. The car250.com snapshot shows registration numbers that are a little higher than the DLT R.Y.1 stats so I must assume the car250.com charts include another category or two other than just category R.Y.1. https://www.car250.com/ev-th-07-2567-1.html 1st chart is for June....2nd chart is for July.

Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the clarification.

But what is not considered in above calculations is "charging losses/efficiencey"....that is, 82.5KWH of energy flowing from your charger does not result in 82.5KWH of energy making it into the battery. Like my BYD Atto has a charing efficiency of 91.5%....I expect the the Seal on board charger/battery have about the same 91.5%. The 580Km NEDC rating is not real world unless you are driving around in a temperature of approx 20C year round, not using the car's air conditioner, and driving like a little ol' lady at 50KM/H. I expect your real world mileage per full tank of electrons is under 500Km. Also, the 2.6369 per KWH is off peak Time of Use (TOU) basic rate and does not include the Fuel Traiff (Ft), 7% tax, and meter fee. Addtionally, I expect a lot...probably most folks....do not have TOU service and just use a non-TOU service at regular rates....just part of their total household electricity bill. When considering the total cost per KWH (i.e., basic rate, Ft, tax, fees, etc) as an incremental additional to their total household cost per KWH, the cost is going to be more like Bt5/KWH.

Fuel cost comparison per kilometer between my Toyota Fortuner 3.0L Diesel and my BYD Atto BEV.

Well, back home in Bangkok now after a half day visit to the MIL today. That one Red Pin charger in the Muang Nakorn Pathom area was in use everytme I checked it using the app. And I drove by going to and from the MIL house and EVs were queued-up waiting to use the charger. But on the way back to my Bangkok home I came back an alternate way where I would pass two other Red Pin chargers.....and I got lucky one was available....I charged from 69% to 100%... Bt175 worth of free elecrons. And when I left two EVs were queued-up ready to take my spot. I now have three free chargings under my belts. If I can do this about 1,375 more times before the free charging campaign ends 3 Jan 2025 I will have recouped all the price-cuts since Oct 2023 when I bought my Atto. 😁

1. Yes. When charging from DC station the EV's built-in rectifier is not needed...nit used. 2. No. Can be petrol, diesel or any fossil fuel....all depends on the model.

That is a sweet deal. Maybe BYD will do the same to remain competitive and calm down some past customers who bought before BYD's BIG price cutting began in late 2023. But I'm not holding my breath.

I can come back now with some info on my 2009 Toyota Fortuner I've had for 16 years and 315,000 kilometer Of course there were quite a few scheduled maintenance vist (non of them free)....had to have the head gasket replaced....had to have the water pump replaced....had to have the front brake rotors turned twice due to them causing severe front wheel shaking when braking....had to have to steering links replaced....had to have the A/C compressor clutch replaced....had to have the A/C evaporator replaced. Lost track of how many 12V batteries I had replaced as they only lasted on average around 2 years. Now with the exception of the 12V battery replacement I'll surely need to do on my Atto every X-amount of year, the BYD's 8 year, 160,000 warranty on most everything (which includes free annual maintenance checks) should cover me well.

yea, sure.

Just regarding the slow 80KW DC charging comment while I agree it would be nice if faster "if you use a DC Charger a lot" it's fast enough if you use a wall charger at home or just take occassional long distance trips. Plus, its common for many DC Chargers to only provide around 60KW per charging cable connector if both connectors are in use....like many PEA and PTT chargers which are often 120KW chargers that will split to 60KW between the two charging connectors when both connectors are in use which is often. And yes, there are quite a few DC chargers that have a higher KW rating but no even close to being enough....and with many DC chargers in Thailand being 120KW chargers, I can understand that since many EVs have a battery charging curve where a 120KW charger gets the job done satisfactory without the high cost of a much bigger charging station. Let's not forget the battery's charging "curve" because batteries do not charge a full rate from 0 to 100%. Most lithium type Ev batteries will charge at maximun rate up to about 60% charge and then that charging rate will start rolling off fast even if you have the EV hooked up to a million KW charger. If the EV is around 60% or more charged, the battery's charge curve rate is going to drop significantly and then drop again arokund the 85% point. For example see the BYD Atto and Seal battery charging curves. BYD Atto Charging Curve BYD Seal Charging Curve

Not lucky at all considering the population size of Bangkok is around 10M. And just reposting below image of the "central, highrise" part of Bangkok (image #1 below)...millions of peope live in this area along with thousands of BYD vehicle owners. For this entire area there are only 4 Red Pin chargers. Just driving across the area below would take around an hour in many cases; BUT would take around 2 hours during peak traffic hours in the morning and afternoon. Traffic in this area is always heavy and often horendous. Now when using the RiverSharger app to zoom out a little (image #2 below) to see the majority of the Bangkok metro core area (probably 10M people or more live in this area) you'll see around two dozen Red Pin chargers. When I charged for free yesterday I used a Red Pin charger down in the left hand bottom corner of the image....I was just going back home from a Foodland groceries run....I got lucky one DC charger freed-up after waiting in queue for about 10 minutes. See images below..and some more words I added at the top of each. The wife and I are now off to visit the MIL in the Mueang Nakorn Pathom area...only one ReverSharger in that area to service hundreds of thousands of people....that's where I got my 1st batch of free electrons. I'm still surprised I just happenned to drive by it at the right time when 1 of 2 charger connectors was available. I've watched that's charger's availability since then and both connectors are pretty much in use all the time---like time of this post. Off to the MIL's house I go now. Central, highrise Bangkok... Only 4 Red Pin chargers. Now zooming out a little to see the core of the Bangkok metro area...part encircled by the #9 highway. Around two dozen Red Pin chargers to serve thousands of BYD vehicles owners. And although the chargers may appear close if you could fly like a bird in a straight line between the Red Pin chargers when it comes to driving to one in Bangkok traffic they do not feel close. And notice the sea of Black Pin chargers (not free) in the central, highrise Bangkok area like shown in above image....and also notice the number of Gray Pin chargers which means they are non-operationable.

And I got more free electrons today. Coming back today from a Foodland groceries run here in western Bangkok I passed that Bangchak station again which has a Red Pin ReverSharger DC charger. I checked the ReverSharger app just before leaving Foodland and it showed 1 of 2 DC chargers available...but by the time I got to the station about 10 minutes later both DC chargers were in use. However, one of the charging Atto's was already at 92%...so, after about 10 minutes that Atto finished charging and I then plugged in with a 60% charge level. The charger started charging automatically, about 25 minutes later I was charged up to 100%, and got charged zero baht....well, actually the cost would have been Bt222 but a Bt222 discount was applied at the same time--net cost zero. Everythng was simply automatically. Just wish there were more Red Pin locations...a Red Pin location I could get to within say in less than 15 minutes driving time "whenever I wanted" versus what I'm doing now in just checking for any available Red Pin chargers while I'm out & about on a visit to the MIL, a periodic groceries run, etc.

@retiree Thanks for that update regarding delivery and tracking when using EMS. For Others Listening In, I expect some folks have used "registered airmail" which costs around Bt350. For those who used "registered airmail" to mail your 7162 back to Wilkes Barre how did your delivery "and tracking" work out? That is, you could track it/get updates all the way to Wilkes Barre, did it show any missing in action time like maybe getting stuck for a while at a certain location, did it show final delivery to SSA? Thanks.

For whatever reason(s) some people just take being anti-EV to the extreme....even to the point of breaking a law. Maybe they feel they loss a job in a ICEV factory or related industury due to EV sales impacting ICEV sales. Maybe it's really just "displaced" political hatred against a certain political party who the person believes that party supports EVs at the expense of fossil fuel indurstries. And some people are simply A-holes on the road which hailand definitely has its fair share of. One thing for sure though, the percentage of EVs on the roads will continue to grow just like the percentage of ICEV slowly grew over several decades in replacing the horses & buggies. Now I don't believe the BEV growth in Thailand will be rapid over the coming years as BEVs are a major techlogoical change and also means a person must let go of the ICEV technogoly they grew up with....but that will slowly happen through a transition period of Hybrid EV (HEV) growth and people eventually getting completely comfortable with BEV technology. Many will just skip the a HEV and go right to a BEV...others will decided to go HEV (still unsure after BEVs) and then go BEV when it comes time to replace their HEV. It takes time....we are talking a decade or two just like it took decades to transition from the horse & buggy era to the ICEV era....and that transition period will vary greatly from country to country. Preaching to the choir I'm sure.