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A 28 Sep 2024 The Nation news article....be sure to read past the headline as it looks like August registrations of EVs jumped way up....highest of any month this year (even higher than the big number in January). Maybe "sluggish" vehicle sales/registrations for most of 2024 is coming to an end. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/general/40041876 Thailand sees a 13 percent decline in registration of new electric vehicles SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2024 1 minute read However, trend of increasing demand continues in 2024 As many as 1,876,356 electric vehicles (EVs) were registered in Thailand in the first eight months of 2024, a nearly 13 percent drop compared to the same period last year. The Department of Land Transport (DLT) said on Friday that registrations had declined by 280,091 vehicles from the 2,156,447 in the same period last year. The department said that despite the lower number of registered EVs in 2024, the trend of new EV registrations was still growing, especially after January. EV registrations during the year: January: 15,915 units February: 6,259 units March: 7,373 units April: 5,973 units May: 7,969 units June: 7,911 units July: 8,270 units August: 20,658 units. In August, the top five EVs being registered were: passenger vehicles with less than 7 seats (17,980 units), motorcycles (2,158), trucks (233), taxis (168), and tuk-tuk (39). “Electric vehicles are environmentally friendly as they emit zero carbon dioxide,” the department’s deputy director-general, Seksom Akraphand, said. “It is one of the reasons that the adoption of EVs has been growing continually. We believe that the number of EV registrations will keep on growing until the year-end.”

It's a certificate with a QR code on it plus other data....it signifies you successfully completed the required online training. To to below post for a redacted image of the certificate

When I bought my new car late last year a certificate of residence was needed by DLT to register the vehicle. I have a LTR visa. Getting a certificate at Chamchuri Sq cost Bt500 and takes one hour. Or an immigration officer closer to you may issue one also.

Just an update: Today was my appt for 5 year renewal of my Thai auto and motorcycle licenses here at a Bangkok DL office. My Yellow Book/Pink ID card number was used on both licenses; not my passport number as before. Saved me the time and money in getting a Residence Certificate from my servicing immigration office. No restriction on the license due to use of the Yellow Book/Pink ID card number on the licenses....this restricted notice is a policy that went away years ago according to what the drivers license reps told me and the Thai wife. My new licenses look just like my old licenses which used my passport number. Total time in the DL office today was about 1 hour 45 minutes. Would have been closer to 1 hour 15 minutes but out of the 11 cubicles they normally have open for the final step of taking your picture and printing out the new license along with paying only 3 cubicles were manned. When the wife got her license a few weeks ago all 11 cubicles were manned. Cost of auto license was Bt505 and motorcycle license Bt255. I'm now good to go for another 5 years plus. By the way, you can now renewal a license up to 6 months before expiration without any loss of time....it use to be up to 3 months before. My renewal today was 3.5 months before expiration. The online training QR certificate is good for 6 months (same certificate used for both licenses), and the medical certificate for 1 month. Not sure about a Residence Certificate since I did not use/need one as I used my Yellow Book/Pink ID instead.

I expect the part of the news article that they can submit a request to the manufacturers (i.e., dealerships) where a person bought the EV is incorrect especially since the manufacturers/dealerships want to advertise the lowest possible price to increase sales....a price that is based on the manufactures/dealership receiving the subsidy once they complete registration for the buyer. Now several manufacturers/dealerships have offered "cash back" promotions (not to be confused with the govt subsidy) for short periods where when a buyer must complete payment and registration (even thou the dealership handles the registraton) by a certain date to be eligible for "cash back" like below Bt100K BYD Atto promotions late last year and early this year.....just before BYD started dropping the retail price much more aggressively with no cash back promotion. I figure the "cash-back" promotions was BYD sneaky way of lowering the price of the EV without actually lowering the retail price even more. Below are a coupe of BYD "cash back" promotions from the recent past T https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/atto3-runout-campaign https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/3-million-sales-celebration-campaign No 12 Cash Back Condition Conditions for 100,000 Baht and 50,000 Baht cash back Cash Back Process Customers must receive payment receipt and take delivery of the car within 31 December 2023 and complete the car registration before 31 January 2024. And customers must to send all required documents through online channel of Rever Automotive Co.,Ltd. before 29 February 2024 at 23.59 only. Cash Back Required Document For individual entities 1. Copy of the vehicle payment receipt (tax invoice) 2. Copy of the owner's ID card/vehicle owner's proof of ownership. 3. Copy of the bank account book of the individual entity who owns the vehicle or is the 4. Copy of vehicle registration manual For legal entities 1. Copy of the vehicle payment receipt (tax invoice) 2. Copy of the company's certification not exceeding 3 months. 3. Copy of the bank account book of the legal entity who owns the vehicle or is the vehicle owner. 4. Copy of vehicle registration manual

You can get ig cheaper off other sites like Lazada. https://s.lazada.co.th/s.qJdUU

U.S. government proposal to prohibit key Chinese software and hardware in cars sold in the U.S. And if approved this could impact cars sold in some other countries if some other countries decide to tag along...especially if some countries want to further protect their vehicle manufacturing industry. Seems a "cold war of economics" is continuing to ramp-up. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/biden-proposes-banning-chinese-vehicles-us-roads-with-software-crackdown-2024-09-23/

For my house that has a large A/C running 24/7 along with several fans running almost 24/7, lights, water pump, another large A/C that runs around 10 hours every night, a 6KW water heater (actually 2 of them but one of them rarely get used), an approx 6KW clothes drier, a washing machine, IT routers, TVs, indoor and outdoor lights, etc....etc....etc., 6.6KW would not be enough to run above mentioned things all at once....which does occur sometimes especially when the wife is washing/drying clothes and/or someone takes a hot shower which is then pulling around 60A total...or approx 13KW. My wife seems to be washing and drying clothes A LOT!!!....a little bit of cleanliness freak. And I have other A/Cs in other rooms which get used occasionally. In my household 6.6KW can be easily (and is) frequently exceeded But if house rules were put into place of always ensuring the clothes drier and water heater do "not" run at the same time along with no more than 2 A/Cs running then I could squeak by on 6.6KW. But start a 3rd A/C in one of my other bedrooms while someone is taking a hot shower while the wife is drying clothes and I would need more like 13KW. But I admit 6.6KW would more than satisfy the power needs or many, many households.

Copying below three posts over from related EV Aseannow thread as it deals with Charging Stations...specifically in this case "EA Anywhere" charging.

I will add that you can now add funds to your EA Anywhere wallet via QR Code/Prompt Pay in addition to debit/credit card. To the best of my memory when I registered with EA Anywhere around late last year the only payment option was adding the debit/credit card payment option in order to top-up your wallet/pay for charging; otherwise, I would have never added my Thai bank debit card as a payment option. This morning I did two tests by adding 10 baht each time to my wallet via QR code/Prompt Pay and it worked no problem. So, I then deleted the Thai bank debit card as a payment option as I prefer not to have any card info online unless I have to.

Thanks. As I use Android I downloaded/installed it from Google Play vs the link in the Facebook image. Google Play shows the new app being added 18 Sep 2024. After installing it from Google Play I used my logon credentials that I used for the original app and I was kinda expecting a rejection along the lines of needing to register again, but it accepted my logon credentials and also sent me OTP to confirm/complete the logon. And all info from the original app such as my EV info, payment card number (redacted), my current Wallet amount of a little over one hundred baht, and all the other info from the original app was indeed showing in the new app. So, all the info does automatically transfer over from the old app to the new app. Now you can still use the old app at least for now BUT when your log into the new app it will log you out of the old app. If you log into the old app it will log you out of the new app. Can't be logged into both at the same time. Anyway, the new app is indeed available for download from Google Play (see below). A little strange they just didn't update the original app via Google Play "automatic" update vs creating a new, separate app. Maybe it has something to do with EA Anywhere financial challenges it has been experiencing regarding some bond payments coming due....you can google it and find articles about this like on the Bangkok Post. Or maybe it just a technical issue with this app that required a new, separate app vs just automatic update of the old/original app. Link to new app on Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=evapp.eaanywhere&hl=en

I think what they are asking for is the TM30 "Receipt of Notification" which confirms the TM30 submission was submitted & approved...that part at the bottom of a TM30 paper form Now a receipt for an online submission would just be a print out of the approved submission. That receipt allows immigration to find the submission in their TM30 system just a case of them wanting to confirm a TM30 was submitted for your current address. And in your case it appears they don't see a TM30 onfile for you and asking you to provide proof of TM30/submit a new one.

Yes you would "unless" you can get registered on the TM30 website. Much easier to complete a TM30 online vs doing the paper version and having to visit your immigration office.

Did you look in your email spam/junk email folder? Maybe their email which includes the Email Verification Weblink which you must click on to complete the verification went in junk/spam. If I remember right when I registered years ago that where the email went. And other people have noted sometimes it takes hours for the verification email to arrive. But when I registered it arrived promptly but I think it went into my email spam/junk folder.

I did some googling on the regarding "new energy" vehicle (which typically means EV and PHEV) annual inspection requirements in China starting Mar 2025. Expect it will be OBD and visual. https://www.hawkinsight.com/en/article/AIqNM

Got a reference/link for that? Like what they mean by degradation. I expect it would consist of basically a visual inspection around the traction battery.....looking for impact damage, damaged high voltage cables, etc. I don't think battery "degradation" in terms of how much charge capacity (State of Health) is the type of degradation they would be looking for...as mentioned, probably visible type damage. And maybe "if" EVs sold in China have to meet include certain "standard/open source" OBD2 measurement parameters then maybe some type of basic OBD check would need to be done. Kinda like how in certain countries/states vehicles have to pass certain Inspection & Maintenance (I/M) OBD tests (a.k.a., Smog or emissions test) which is looking at "emissions" every 1 or 2 years. Those nasty emissions coming out the tailpipe. Also, I saw a recent CNN news report on TV talking about "local provincial/city governments" in China have been creating a bunch of new taxes on "this-and-that" since the central govt has been cutting back on funds provided from the central govt tax coffers. So, some local governments are trying to make up for the tax funding shortfall. The CNN report mentioned some of the new fees/taxes dealt with vehicles. And with more and more EVs on the roads in China I expect EVs are a new target for tax revenue....make up for the decline in tax revenue on declining numbers of ICEVs.

My auto & motorcycle licenses along with my Thai wife's auto license expires at the end of the this year. When we went to the Drivers License Office here in Khet Talingchan, Bangkok just to get info/confirm the requirements to renew our 5 year licenses one of the specific questions I asked was could I renew using my Pink ID Card/Yellow Book as confirmation of my address vs getting a Certificate of Address from my local immigration office. The answer was: I will be able to use my Pink ID card/Yellow Book vs getting a Certificate of Address from my immigration. My Pink ID Card/Yellow book 13 digit number will be used on my renewed licenses vs my passport number. I said I've heard that by using your Pink ID Card/Yellow Book then that would result in a restriction on your license for the local area only...but the drivers license reps said it "use" to be that way years ago but no longer....there are no restriction of any kind...just like if you had used your passport. And the two driver license reps who told me this are the ones who will actually being reviewing/approving my renewal application. I go back in a little over two weeks for my scheduled appointment. I also got my medical certificate today which is good for 30 days...cost Bt200 at a little clinic right next to the driver license office. Just had to provide my height and weight, a check to ensure I was not color blind, blood pressure check, and answer a few questions as to if I had any major medical problems. Only took about 10 minutes. Ditto for the wife. After getting the medical certificates we went back to the office and the wife got her renewed license today as both of us had done the online training yesterday....she just showed a snapshot of the QR Training Certificate. Then she went to a room where they run a few checks to ensure you are not color blind, able to quickly move your foot from a gas peddle to brake peddle, etc. Easy stuff...only took about 5 minutes total. For whatever reason(s) they accepted the Thai wife as a walk-in today...maybe they had some open appointment slots I don't know....they were just very helpful. But for me they would not do it today...but they made an appointment for me approx two weeks from now. I could have use the appointment app to make an appointment but since the drivers license office was willing to do it for me then good....beats downloading, installing, and registering with a govt app that you will only use once every 5 years. Yeap...we just went to the office to get some info today and see if we could schedule an appointment vs use the app they want you to use. Basically they routinely do "not" do walk-ins....you are suppose to have made an appointment...but for whatever reason they allowed the wife do her this afternoon without an appointment....and for me they made my appointment and basically looked at my paperwork, the medical certificate I got today, and my QR Training Certificate which I got yesterday and said I was good to go....just bring certain copies of the docs when coming back for my appointment in a few weeks. I feel like I'm preapproved paperwork-wise....just need to show up for the appointment, do a few response/eye/reaction tests, and then get my renewal licenses issued. The drivers license office reps today were VERY, VERY helpful. The wife left with a renewed license, I got an appointment a few weeks from now to renew mine, and I got a bunch of paperwork questions clearing answered.

Apparently this was a Deepal SL03 (but called a L07 in Thailand) which is offered in three options: a battery electric vehicle, a series hybrid, and an electric vehicle with a hydrogen electrochemical generator. Gosh knows which option is shown in the video. But something that struck me a week or so ago when first seeing the video was how fast the fire was suppressed on its own and as mentioned by this guy below.

Below weblink gives more detail. https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/stanfords-ev-battery-magic-more-life On the surface it seems almost too good to be true, but that is what Stanford Linear Accelerator Center engineers came up with and published. Too bad for the process to work it needs to happen during the factory first charge otherwise I would put a lightning rod on my Atto and park it out in the open during a Thailand thunder & lightning storm. But I can't take credit for this lightning rod idea as I got the idea from EOW image he post earlier about a super quick charging EV that used the lightning rod method.😜 But seriously, a decade (or sooner) from now I'm sure EV batteries will be have two to three times greater capacity, have lifetimes two to three times longer (like 30 to 50 years), and costing a lot less will be the norm for mass market EVs.

Well, in regards to some of my questions above, I did that online training today in preparation for renewal of my car and motorcycle license renewals. The only course offered for a "foreigner" was a combo car, tuk-tuk, and motorcycle....basically a combo/generic type training video that covers all three type vehicles. For a foreigner there was no separate course offered for a motorcycle. I registered with my passport. See 1st Snapshot below. And I did pass the course and the QR Code Training Certificate issued is good for 180 days (6 months). It's a four part course/video that takes approx 15 to 20 minutes "per part" to finish. Parts 1 and 2 is in Thai with Thai narrators but with English subtitles. Part 3 and 4 are totally in English with western narrators...no subtitle needed or provided. During each part only "one" question is asked and it may or may not be a subject that the video was covering....it just seemed to be a random test question. So, a total of 4 questions asked during the 4 part video which takes a little over an hour total. "Now, if a Thai" you registered with your Thai ID car then the online courses offered is different in that there is one course for a car & tuk-tuk and then a separate course for a motorcycle....see 2nd snapshot below. My Thai wife took the course as her car license needs renewal soon. It also is a 4 parts one hour total video.....and the parts/video is completely different from the foreigner version....different video all together. But still only one question per part asked....QR Code Training Certificate good for 180 days. 1st snapshot of training course offered "when registering/logging in as a foreigner." Notice the course covers motorcycles, tricycles "and" cars. It's like a combo course. 2nd snapshot: However for a Thai who registered with their Thai ID there is a separate motorcycle course offered and a separate course for a car or tuk-tuk/tricycle. Different from the course for a foreigner where there is a combo course that covers car, tuk-tuk, "and" motorcycle as shown in above 1st snapshot.

By the way, for you ReverSharger app users you will notice there are around two dozen "Shell" chargers also shown in the app....they are the ones using the seashell icon. Anyway, it sure appears theses Shell chargers rarely get used. A few minutes ago I clicked on almost everyone of those approx two dozen Shell DC chargers and not one of them was is use....always showing all DC chargers available. On previoius days I've done the same out of curiosity ...I don't remember I've ever found a Shell charger in use. Now, I'm sure some of them get used sometimes; it just I've never seen them in use on the app or when I happen to drive by one and can see it. I expect they are rarely used due to their Bt10 per KWH plus Bt10 per hour parking fee where most other charging companies are around Bt8/KWH and may not have a parking/reservation fee. So, since they are rarely used they might be a good choice to use if heading on on a long trip and you are looking for a DC charger that has a very high probability of being available when you arrive at the charger. But as mentioned they charge more than other charging companies....but at least you could immediately charge up and get on your way again.

The DC chargers I've used at three different BYD dealerships the chargers were all 100-120KW chargers which means when both connectors are in use the maximum charge available drops to around 60KW. In fact the great majority of DC chargers used by all charging companies in Thailand seems to be around 100-120KW as I've looked at the electrical/KWH ratings plate on these chargers when doing a DC charge....it's a ratings plate that usually down near the bottom of the charger on the side or rear. And many charging apps like the PTT app will show the chargers rating right in the app, but the ReverSharger app does not (or at least I don't see it anywhere). Normally when I charge at a ReverSharger DC charger for some free electrons I'm starting my Atto's charge from the 50 to 80% SoC ballpark....and actually the great majority of those charging sessions have started from the 60 to 80% SoC ballpark. If I'm driving by an available red pin charger and got time to spare I will pull-in and top up. Since the Atto's charge curve allows up to a 88KW charge rate up to around 65% SoC I do get approx that 88KW charge rate "if I'm the only one using the 120KW ReverSharger" and I start my charge session with a SoC of less than 65%. But after I reach approx 65% SoC the Atto's charging curve only allows a around 55-60KW charge rate. Even if I was the only one using say a 300KW charger my Atto would only allow around a 55-60KW from that 300KW charger. And then around 85% SoC on the Atto's charging curve the max rate allowed is approx 35KW...and then around 98% SoC the max rate will start tapering from 35KW to 10KW until it reaches full 100% charge. According the Atto's charging curve data below these different max charge rates along the entire 0-100% SoC charge curve averages out to 58.7KW which means a 120KW charger which shares power between its two DC connectors would probably provide all the power the Atto requests from 0 to 100% SoC "assuming", repeat, assuming only one of the two connectors was being used and/or maybe even if both connectors are being used as the EV on the other connector may be charging within the portion of it's charge curve that requires less than 60KW which then allow your EV to receive that unused power to meet your charging curve need. I think since many, many, many EVs up to recent times have had batteries in the 50-60KW ballpark that charging companies have statistics/data that shows a 120KW charger will on the average satisfy the great majority of EVs that need to use that charger especially since both of the DC charger's connectors are probably "not being used at the same time" at those chargers where a person is paying for electrons. Plus, DC chargers are expensive to install....the more powerful the charger the more expensive it is to include higher cost for the electric company to run power to it. DC chargers around 120KWH seem to be the sweet spot right now....but as EV batteries slowly increase in KWH size and are also able to accept a higher charging curve rate the DC charger sweet spot is probably going to increase to around180- 200KWH "if charging companies decide economically/profit-wise that is the sweet spot." I'm sure many EV owners would like all DC chargers to be able to always meet whatever the max charge rate of their particular EV is, but I expect data/statistics showing real world DC charging needs/usage does not economically support. Atto 3 Extended Range 60.5KWH Battery Charging Curve https://evkx.net/models/byd/atto_3/atto_3/chargingcurve/

Below is how "an ambulance chaser" (a.k.a., a personal injury attorney in the U.S.) puts it regarding airbag non-deployment during an accident.. https://www.thechampionfirm.com/blog/why-didn-t-my-airbag-go-off-in-my-car-accident/#:~:text=The Nature of the Collision&text=Each vehicle has sensors that,airbag deployment will not happen.

No....the Kia stuff/snapshot is from googling which took me to a Kia manual talking airbag deployment (but I know you are jesting). Regarding airbag deployment on an Atto back in mid August when I went to a nearby BYD Dealership to get some free charging/electrons I need to queue for about 15 minutes until a charger became available. The security guard let me park in their body shop maintenance shed just to get out of the sun until the charger freed-up....I got out and walked around a little to look at stuff such as damaged vehicles. In that body shop maintenance area there were 3 or 4 various BYD vehicles that had been in major accidents....I mean major damage or totaled. One of them was an Atto that had apparently been in a very serious collision and then also rolled the car from looking at the damage on the sides and trunk area. The damage was around twice as worst as shown in your earlier post...to include every window being shattered, left rear axle bent to a 45 degree angle, rear trunk area damaged, engine area damaged a LOT more than in your picture above. This vehicle had definitely been in a serious-serious accident....car was surely totaled. And the traction battery had "not" been damaged the best I could tell from looking at the underside and around the car. One thing that stood out to me was "all" airbags had deployed and the cabin integrity was not breached in any way....the driver and passengers definitely have good protection from the cabin being seriously crushed-in where shoulder/seat beats and airbags would provide little to no protection. Actually seeing that totaled Atto and how the cabin area remained intact, traction battery apparently undamaged, and all airbags having deployed gave me a good feeling that the Atto provides excellent driver/passenger protection in an accident.

It looks like he ran into a "pole" and when I look in the BYD Atto manual and do some googling about "hitting a utility pole" the Atto manual (1st snapshot below) and googling about airbags deployment when hitting certain objects it says airbags might "not" deploy if hitting a utility pole, tree or similar object as the force of the impact is concentrated to where the full force of impact is not delivered to the impact/airbag sensors. See the explanation given in the KIA manual below (2nd snapshot below). And my googling seemed to indicate this is a common issue with many cars....there are certain types of impacts that simply may not trigger airbag deployment. From the Atto manual From the Kia manual