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It's 80K USD per year which works out to an average of approx. 6.7K not 8K USD per month for an LTR Pensioner visa...and must be at least 50 years old. And yea, where the OP said $1M USD in assets is required only applies to the LTR Global Citizen visa which does not have the 50 years old requirement.

When I switched from an OA retirement extension to a marriage extension in mid 2020 due to the OA medical insurance requirement...and then renewed the marriage extension two more times in 2021 and 2022 before switching to a LTR visa I never had home visit from CW immigration. Since that period included the COVID pandemic maybe CW cut way back on home visits. Or maybe because I had 11 retirement extensions under my belt at the same address when switching to the marriage extension had an impact....or maybe because the wife and I have been married for decades was the reason....don't know. I just know I've never had a home visit from CW on my retirement or marriage extensions.

@mudcat I think you will find out at least for the address reporting it must be done at the person's "servicing/assigned" immigration office which is the Chamchuri Sq immigration office for various BoI visas such as LTR and SMART visas. The TM47 form for 90 day address reporting uses the same format (see image at bottom) of leaving the specific immigration office blank....just a case of a generic form being used vs having a separate form for the 100 or so immigration offices in Thailand. And if a person tries to do a 90 day report at any immigration office other than his servicing immigration he will be told to go to his servicing immigration office. When I was still on a Non OA visa I was personally told that right to my face two times back when I tried at two different immigration offices close to me (Nanthaburi and Nakhon Pathom offices) vs my servicing/assigned immigration office of CW since I live in Bangkok. One of these times was back in in late 2011 during the Big Flood when much of the country was flooded to include Bangkok and I tried to report at the Nakorn Pathom office who turned me away...told me no-can-accept a 90 day report from me....told me to mail-in my report to CW.....and of course mail service was severely impact due to the flooding....but I did mail it in and got new 90 day receipt back in about a month. And the Nanthaburi office (which is only 10 minutes from my Bangkok home...much closer than CW in north Bangkok) simply said no....I must report to CW since I live in Bangkok. One downside of BoI type visas is it locks you into accomplishing certain visa management related activities only at the Chamchuri Sq office like the address reporting at this point in time. Buy hey, same thing applies of being locked into a certain office if having a 1 year type visa where you get locked into using your servicing immigration office. And sometimes I wonder if a person needed a certificate of residence like to renew their drivers license or buy/sell a vehicle if they could get such at their "closest" immigration office or would that closest immigration office refer the person to their servicing immigration.....I don't know. For me it's not a biggie since I live in Bangkok and can get to Chamchuri Sq within 30 minutes...but if I didn't live in/close to Bangkok getting locked into having to only use the Chamchuri Sq immigration office could be painful. Hopefully more LTR holders will raise this 365 day address reporting issue to BoI for resolution....a better/easier way for LTR holders such as at least allowing a mail-in option like BoI allows for the SMART visa. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Yea...quite a few times over the years both the wife and I with Bangkok Bank, Krungsri Bank, and KrungThai Bank passbooks have experienced passbook printing update problems like overprint, blurred, print so light it's only partially readable, etc. It happens maybe around 5 percent of the time.

Yea...ditto for me. So many different types of Thai bank accts paying interest at different times. Regular savings accts which usually pay in Jun and Dec......fixed savings accts that may pay monthly/quarterly/semiannually/ annually..... hybrid accts like the Krungsri MTD acct which is kinda a regular & fixed acct mixed together.

The problem with passbook entries is unless they are updated frequently which ensures "every" balance change/transaction is reflected in your passbook, then some transactions could have caused your balance to drop below whatever the minimum deposit requirement is required for your extension of stay....and that transaction/balance would not be reflected in a consolidated (a.k.a., summary) balance update to your passbook as a consolidated balance update just shows your current balance. There could have been numerous transactions/balance changes in the period covered by that summary/consolidated balance update to your passbook. It seems most Immigration offices want to see a balance update to the passbook at least once a month. If no monthly update then the immigration officer may want to ensure you maintained the required extension of stay balance throughout the required months of the extension period and a 12 month statement will provide that information as such statements will reflect "all" (each and every one) transactions/balance changes. Even if it's a fixed savings account where you don't/can't add additional deposits and the fixed acct might only pay interest once a year the immigration officer knows a "statement" will always reflect "all" transactions/balance changes even in the unlikely event there were no changes.....just as they know passbooks might not reflect all transactions/balance changes. If you can get at less one monthly passbook update to your passbook generally that good enough for most immigration offices....they will usually accept the passbook. Otherwise, don't be surprised if the immigration office requires a 12 month statement. If it was me I would just get a 12 month statement just before an annual extension of stay since they are cheap to get but keep in mind that at some Thai banks it may take up to a week to get a 12 month statement (like at Bangkok Bank) while some others can produce an annual statement in minutes....the kind of statement that comes on bank letterhead paper, has a bank stamp/signature. The immigration office may not accept a 12 month statement you print from your online ibanking/mbanking account as such a statement could be photoshopped (altered). And as more Thai banks are slowly transitioning to "passbook-less" accounts I expect in the not-so-distance future immigration offices will always want a statement due to passbooks not always showing all transactions and more applicants not even having passbooks.

There would be if the govt would convert "inactive post" offices to jail cells.

Yea. When a person exits Thailand whatever previous TM6 a person had is OBE'ed/killed off....no longer applicable. The TM6 is like a booger immigration just can't seem to shake off their finger since it's still being used for land entries but not air entries. Plus, some people haven't left Thailand for many years (like me) who still have their TM6 when it was required even for air entry. So, since there is still a good possibility a person may have a TM6 immigration will frequently ask for it. Kinda like "If you Got 'Em, then Smoke "Em."

Latest entry.

Yea, if you go for an LTR visa it's asked for in the LTR online application. See below snapshot from the LTR application website as to when a TM6 would be required.

Yea...and I think even many immigration officers have also lost track of when a TM30 must be processed. A clear as mud program.

I also contacted BoI yesterday & today regarding the 365 day address reporting (had several back and forth emails with them...got responses within minutes to hours....very responsive....one of those emails is partially quoted below). That email was "almost" identical to the response Ben Zioner got above....that a LTR holder must accomplish the report in-person or by an authorized person reporting on the behalf of the LTR holder. However the response I got was to use the TM95 vs TM91 form...more on that talked below. In additional back-an-forth clarification emails BoI said reporting "by mail" for LTR holders is currently not authorized as it's authorized for SMART visa holders. And the Immigration Bureau Online reporting method is not authorized although the system does makes mention/has a area indicating certain BoI visa types that is for BoI "investment" type visas which apparently must report every 90 days vs the 365 days for LTR/SMART visa holders. However, the TM91 form mentioned in the BoI response Ben Zioner quoted above is for a SMART visa; not for a LTR visa. The correct form to use is the TM95 which is for the LTR visa which the BoI response below included. The TM61 form is a Thai language only form (Google Lens and Translate are challenged to translate some parts of it). Both the TM95 and TM61 forms are attached. Summary: at this time, only in-person or by designated person 365 day address reporting is authorized. That's not a good thing if you live a distance from Bangkok...or even if you do live in Bangkok and would prefer to report by mail or online. I sure hope BoI soon authorizes reporting by mail...and hopefully LTR visa holders will suggest such to BoI. TM95 ตม.95.pdfTM61 Report_of_residence_TM61.pdf

Wow....such a major announcement and fanfare for a foreigner with a home country arrest warrant. Heck, in the U.S. they arrest wanted motor cycle gang members everyday....take them to jail...no fanfare....just a short entry in the daily police blotter.

No....I don't lease. Since the wife and I own our home with my name also on the chanote since I have a usufruct I showed that....also showed my Yellow Book.

Now for the my 2020 extension I included a copy of my TM30 with my extension paperwork....in 2021 I didn't include a TM30 copy and the IO asked for it and I provided it....in 2022 I started just including it again to avoid the IO from possibly asking for it and since providing a copy is cheap & easy. Just another example of how people's experiences vary from immigration office to office and even at the same office.

TallGuy, Good report...thanks. I can associate with the pain enduring a whole day at CW immigration in a l.....o.....n......g queue for something related to the main reason you went to CW which was your retirement extension renewal. Yea...and in mid 2019 when doing my 11th retirement extension of stay I spent approximately 4 hours in the CW TM30 counter queue because the immigration officer processing my retirement extension in the Long Term L section wouldn't approve it until I could show a TM30 which I had never done since retiring to Thailand 11 years earlier. All previous extensions done at CW using the same home address and I had never been asked for a TM30. So, at around 10:00am the L Section retirement extension IO sent me over to the TM30 section to resolve the issue....once resolving the issue (i.e., providing a copy of a TM30) I was to come back to the L section to finish processing of my annual extension. That day at CW "many" people applying for annual renewal of their retirement/marriage/long stay extensions were being required to show a TM30 which most had never accomplished (or possibly heard of) just like me. I was in the TM30 queue for approx 4 hours (not counting the intervening lunch break) before being called...and then another 30 to 60 minutes of the section processing a TM30....the end result was completing paperwork for a TM30, paying a Bt800 fine, and being issued a TM30. Back to the L section I go at around 2:30-3:00pm I then went back to the L section with TM30 in-hand....in about another 30 minutes L section finished approval of my extension.....I'm done. Where typically my annual extensions only took a few hours and I was done well before lunch time in the case of my 2019 extension the "copy of my TM30" monkey wrench turned my CW annual visit into pretty much an all day affair. Around 2019 is when the Thai govt got anal about TM30s being accomplished due to a lot of high profile, media grabbing attention on overstays, expat criminal activity, tourists going MIA for a few weeks, etc., which the govt framed as national security related. Yea, out of 14 annual visits to CW thru mid 2022 to renew my retirement/marriage extension of stays, 12 of 14 were done well before lunch with zero issues, 1 of 14 finish shortly after lunch (that was a super crowded day) with zero issues, but 1 of 14 in 2019 requiring durn near all day when the TM30 snake bit me (bit many during that time frame and still frequently & expectantly bites people to this day when doing needing to do certain things at immigration).

Yea...and in mid 2019 when doing my 11th retirement extension of stay I spent approximately 4 hours in the CW TM30 counter queue because the immigration officer processing my retirement extension in the Long Term L section wouldn't approve it until I could show a TM30 which I had never done since retiring to Thailand 11 years earlier. So IO sent me over to the TM30 section to resolve the issue...once resolving the issue (i.e., providing a copy of a TM30) I was to come back to the L section to finish processing of my annual extension. That day at CW "many" people applying for annual renewal of their retirement/marriage/long stay extensions were being required to show a TM30 which most had never accomplished (or possibly heard of) just like me. I was in the TM30 queue for 4 hours (not counting the intervening lunch break) before being called...the end result was completing paperwork for a TM30, paying a Bt800 fine, and being issued a TM30. I then went back to the L section with TM30 in-hand....in about another 30 minutes L section finished approval of my extension.....I'm done. Where typically my annual extensions only took a few hours and I was done well before lunch for my 2019 extension the "copy of my TM30" requirement monkey wrench turned my CW visit into pretty much an all day affair. Around 2019 is when the Thai govt got anal about TM30 being accomplished due to a lot of high profile, media grabbing attention on overstays, expat criminal activity, etc., which the govt framed as national security related.

I expect a similar explanation is entered in a person's record in the Immigration's IT system. A record that would also show your previous visas, extensions, passports, etc....just everything "data-wise" that Immigration keeps regarding your stay in Thailand and activity at immigration offices, air/land entries, etc.

Where I mentioned possibly using the Immigration Bureau address reporting website and the block relating to BoI visa at Chamchuri Sq immigration, see below snapshots. Does checking of that block if you have a BoI related visa, like say a BoI LTR or BoI SMART visa, end-up routing a 365 address report to BoI/Chamchuri Sq Immigration for processing?....I don't know. I have asked the question to BoI regarding LTR 365 day address reporting as to what methods are allowed? Time will tell when and what the answer will be. Other LTR visa holders should ping BoI also about what methods/ways are now allowed. It would just seem it should be at least the same as the 3 ways as offered for SMART visa holders (in-person, designated person, or my mail)....and "maybe" also it can now even be done online using the Immigration Bureau address reporting website but updated guidance as to the various ways is lagging.

What the reference/weblink for above guidance? Is it from the BoI LTR website.....maybe an email response from BoI....etc? Thanks. Just as additional info/crossfeed on the BoI SMART visa (kinda like a sister visa to the LTR visa) website reporting in person, by designated person, "or by mail" is allowed for 1 year address SMART visa reporting. Maybe by mail reporting is also allowed for the LTR visa. And even the online 90 days reporting system has a block to check if you have a BoI related visa issued at BoI Chamburi Sq immigration. Probably time for several of us LTR holder to ping BoI LTR about 1 year reporting. I'm really surprised BoI hasn't put official guidance on their LTR website----or if it there I'm just not seeing it. https://smart-visa.boi.go.th/smart/pages/how-to-manage.html

Visa, not Schwab, determines the exchange rate when you accomplish the transaction. Using the Visa site gamb00ler gave above will tell you exactly (to the penny) how much will be deducted from your Schwab acct. I've done many counter withdrawals and ATM withdrawals here in Thailand using my various U.S. debit cards like my Schwab card.

I'm sure both those banks use SWIFT to accomplish the transfers which will incur the Thai bank recieving fee. Now if those banks are paying the receiving fee that means they are probably charging a higher sending fee.

Keep in mind that Thai banks do charge a receiving fee for SWIFT transfers. Although it varies a little bit among Thai banks it's typically 0.25% (Bt200 min, Bt500 max). This fee is applied "before" the transfer is posted to your account and the fee does "not" appear on your account statement/passbook which fools a lot of people in thinking no receiving fee(s) was applied.

Not at all....you just pay less.

Go where the locals go....the little mom and pop barber shops....that's what I use here in western Bangkok...Bt120 for a haircut.