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20 hours ago, Why Me said:

And whoever dies first don't use that method. I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

How do you think any new medical innovation is trialed? It's often by putting patients with similar problems in different treatments to see which ones work. Sometimes they just give a placebo which doesn't do anything at all.

12 hours ago, DrTuner said:

It's very simple, place the patient so that the <deleted> flows out of the lungs thanks to gravity. From what I've seen most are sitting upright on the beds, exactly the wrong way. Strange that proning is not used more widely.

I'm not going to read the link ( not going to take the chance of a computer VIRUS being introduced to my computer ), but does it involve tilting the patient head down? On the ortho ward I worked on we often had patients legs up with traction, but they were never head down as well, which would be pretty hard to tolerate for an extended period of time.

As I see it, viruses bind to body cells; they don't float around in the lungs, which are not large empty spaces, so how would it work anyway?

On 4/9/2020 at 6:51 AM, Jingthing said:

but sorry, this is one EVIL virus.

Erm, viruses are not evil. They don't have free will and just do what viruses do. Only human's with choice can, IMO, be "evil".

Cars probably kill as many people as viruses, so are cars "evil"?

24 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

It only takes each of us, in our own current actionable ways to say NO. To say enough... we don't have to march in the streets. 

Governments, even those that claim to be democratic, have unpleasant ways of forcing us to comply. I for one do not want martial law imposed or huge fines. If the economy crashes badly enough, fines may start to look appealing to a cash strapped government.

1 hour ago, timendres said:

Of course, my analysis does fall down in the sense that, assuming we were to let the virus spread unchecked, the death rate would probably end up higher than 1%, as the medical system began to collapse under the load, and was unable to support as many people as it does now. But the question remains the same - at what cost do we attempt to limit the spread of this (or any other) virus with the measures being used today?

What the governments seem to be concentrating on is the first wave, but till a vaccine is developed there will be a second and subsequent wave. They are being pretty quiet about that, and what they'll do when they strike.

Seems to me that in the end it'll be herd immunity that rules. If they keep locking us down it'll, IMO, end badly. We've been in lockdown only 2 weeks and the cracks in it are getting larger. They could impose martial law and force people to comply, but when it's over, and this too WILL pass, they'll answer for it at the ballot box.

I just heard someone on radio saying the plan is to SLOW the spread, but in the end probably most people ( still alive ) will have had it. That sounds pretty sensible to me, but the government has not promoted that, instead telling us that "we can eliminate it", which is only possible if they never let anyone in without 14 day quarantine for the next 12 to 18 months. That'll certainly destroy any international tourism, and cause a massive increase in unemployment, with all the unpleasant consequences of that.

Despite many people having had it and recovered, they are still being locked down, which IMO is a strange thing to do. If they have the antibodies are they not immune?

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Under the most serious scenario - a 20% contraction in income

Ya reckon? IMO be much more severe than that in some countries. Tourism is going to be stuffed for a very long time and that employs millions directly and indirectly.

8 hours ago, webfact said:

In total, governments around the world would need to mobilise at least $2.5 trillion to support developing nations.

Hmmmm. Countries like NZ will be in recession or even depression. Government is borrowing multi millions. Where is the money to help other nations going to come from? Borrow more money that the grandchildren of today's people will still be paying back?

4 hours ago, TooBigToFit said:

If I dream of sex, something will keep me away from the woman who is ready to go in the dream.

Snap.

51 minutes ago, totally thaied up said:

This has been me of late. Dream a lot about friends and my parents. Very, very real. This morning I dreamed that I was in a canoe releasing fish with some New Zealand people when a storm came. 

 

When I was taking the drug lexapro for depression, I would wake up in a sweat but have the most colorful dreams (vivid colors) you could imagine. I had to stop taking the drug due to this reason as the dreams sometimes turned terrifying and I would scream, waking my wife up.

 

 

I enjoy my sleep at night. With covid-19 being on everyone's mind and the worlds state of affairs, it is good to get away from it all for a while.  

I was hypnotised once. It didn't solve my problem and I was aware throughout the procedure, but I had amazing dreams afterwards.

4 hours ago, ChrisKC said:

Wet dreaming, night dreaming daydreaming or wishful thinking?

LOL. Wet dreams scared the .............. out of me. Back then no one ever explained anything about sex and such. Of course I was far to embarrassed to ask anyone.

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's not just bar girls, there are plenty of other women looking for a good provider. A quick look at ThaiFriendly shows that. While I can't say how many on there are hookers, they can't all be.

I agree family support for Thais is better. However, that assumes resources. I just had an example of that yesterday, loading a 30 kg sack of rice on my GF's scooter so her brother could take it to his house to feed his family. He's out of a job now. No prize for guessing who paid for the rice.

My ex will never starve. She has rice growing land and the family house has a huge garden. Veges grow like gangbusters in LOS.

Last I heard she was working in a resort near Pai, so I guess she will now be planting and harvesting at home.

On 4/4/2020 at 11:28 PM, rooster59 said:

There is much up to date and important news being posted in a very timely and helpful manner.

Would be great if we could read something other than threads about Covid. It's like every problem in the world just vanished.

There is a subforum just for Covid- can't all the Covid threads be posted there and some actual news be posted on the World news sub forum?

On 4/6/2020 at 6:13 PM, jacko45k said:

So let them starve now?

They destroyed Larn to mint it off the Chinese. They should have saved some of it when times were good for them.

Karma is a <deleted>.

6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

So how are you on the forum? 

How about reading it properly. I never said I don't have access to the internet, just that I don't have my own.

4 hours ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

Great, now what is the downside?

Most bars closed, bar girls like hen's teeth.

I had thought it would be a good time to visit Pattaya again a couple of weeks ago after all the Chinese and Russians left, but there is no reason to any more.

Given once one has had the virus and either had minimal symptoms or has recovered, one should be immune, so an enterprising person would be able to start a home "massage" service with immune girls. There is now a quick test to ascertain if one has antibodies. 

Making even recovered people lockdown is just crazy. They should be getting back to work.

2 hours ago, sapson said:

entirely everything suspended until the pandemic is fully under control.

That'll be 12 to 18 months when a vaccine becomes available. Reckon they'll be closed that long?

Don't understand why a q at all. If the banks can have a machine that gives a q number and people sit down to wait, why can't immigration? Is that too simple for them to accept?

It's as bad as the UK. There is no way I could have q for 3 hours- legs wouldn't have lasted and need to go to bathroom frequently.

Even in Chiang Mai they give out q numbers and people go to desk when number called and on a sign.

I thought Pattaya was more switched on for farangs than the chaos that was seen.

26 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I'll be brewing my reishi later this morning. I've found the best thing to get the fire started is the compressed paper egg trays. I tear one into smallish pieces and spread them about in the pot. Half a tray is enough to get the fire under way. Put small pieces of charcoal on first and then a big bit on top.

 

When I do the fire, I'll take a couple of pics.

 

Reminds me of my time is special, undercover work. Lighting fires with damp wood and without creating smoke. Didn't want the enemy to know where we were hiding out. They might have come to get us. No, no no! Not easy to light a fire in the jungle, by just using the materials that are lying around.

Reminds me of when I bought MIL a new gas double hob cooker. She still got up early every day to start the charcoal fire. Made her own charcoal.

21 hours ago, Sheryl said:

they are all private hospitals.

Not in Thailand. Government hospitals and private hospitals.

21 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Field hospitals have been opened.

Is that in Thailand? Should be in every affected country.

21 hours ago, Sheryl said:

I don't know which "they" you listen to but no respected public health source has ever described US health care system as the best or even in the top 10. It ranks quite low, in fact, due to access issues.

I was referring to the oft stated that American health care is best in the world and it probably is, but only for those that can afford the best.

On 4/8/2020 at 12:56 PM, possum1931 said:

Oh! sorry, I thought there was lockdowns all over the world, or maybe a disease and a virus are two different things. wait a minute, is the flu a disease? There are vaccines for that.

LOL. Did I really have to clarify that?

Have to wait till the disease starts then analyse it, then produce a trial vaccine which has to be evaluated, then trialed, then approved. Takes about 12 to 18 months.

It's not possible to make a vaccine for a virus that hasn't even occurred yet.

Flue has been around probably as long as humans.

15 hours ago, car720 said:

It is somewhat coincidental to see a disease that threatens the aged at a time when the world has a problem with an aging population.

It's not targeting the aged specifically. It kills those with underlying health problems, and millions of aged will not have such. It's just that the elderly obviously have more underlying health problems than younger people, and less likely to have the strength needed to combat the infection.

On 4/5/2020 at 11:03 AM, Retarded said:

If that is Thai culture then all Thai wives who have Thai husband will behave the same way you described? I don't think so.  And husband is not considered as a family? That type of relative relationship is prevalent in any economically deprived region. If you call that as culture, then that culture shares common denominator with poverty whether it is Thailand or Africa. Again I am well aware of the poverty because I've been through.  Trust me, all the third world countries in Asia have the same traits. Even the prosperous Asian country now was like that 50 years ago. 

You are not Thai, I take it. Farangs are never high on the priority list.