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14 hours ago, digger70 said:

One can make a Home /Life where ever he Want's to.I have been down and out myself . One can Make a Life as good  and content as possible One selves ,No one is going to do it for You. 

LOL. That was a tongue in cheek reply to a specific post. Jai yen, jai yen.

My room is my home, but lacks a warm woman in my bed. Unlike LOS, they ain't lining up to co habitate with elderly, fat men here.

I'd get a small dog but not permitted and I can't afford to rent anywhere that does.

On 4/5/2020 at 9:49 AM, Number 6 said:

Working on all the things I never had time for. Reoganized storage, cleaning up file names on mo3 collection. Revisiting movie lists of ones I don't have same with series. Help wife clean the place really well. Reorganized and backed up hard drives. Scrubbed computer. Cleaned up mail and addresses in email.

 

Organizing our travel photos would be next. Dunno if I'm up for that.

 

We eat two meals a day. Just not burning calories.

 

The amount of covid news I read has gone to about ten minutes a day.

Even though my usual life has not changed at all, I've found that I have more impetus to do the things I never got around to doing since the lockdown started. Changed my room around, did a big tidy up etc. Perhaps it's a subconcious desire to present a better image for those that have to come into the room if I get sick from Corona.

I'm trying to have only 1 proper meal a day and just a bit of snacking in between. The lack of activity definitely makes me less hungry.

I always mean to sort my thousands of photos, but somehow never get around to it. I just increased my storage capacity to 2 Tb, but many are duplicates.

21 hours ago, Melbun said:

Then don't go there. Choose a different supermarket. Scream, protest, get on the media, tell your friends, change to a political party that force supermarkets to accept legal tender (aka money). Write to the supermarkets and tell them to <deleted> off and you are taking your patronage elsewhere. Get out on the streets and burn your bra ???? - Don't be a sheep and be led by the nose. Once there is no cash - governments and banks, courts and umpteen organisations can stop your account with the press of a button or pilfer from your account.

Jokin', right?

In my town only 2 supermarkets ( I think only 2 major chains in NZ ). If both go cashless I have the choice of starvation or compliance.

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Edited 4 hours ago by richard_smith237

To be of real use that graph should, IMO, have another line of people that would have died anyway. IMO many deaths that would have occurred anyway are being used to inflate the Corona death total. Delete the number expected from the Corona total would give the number caused solely by Corona.

On 4/5/2020 at 12:46 AM, richard_smith237 said:

they still have time to spend with their grandchildren and a quality of life to continue on with - why risk that so that a ‘certain number’ of selfish people can enjoy their life?

You obviously don't get that it's not about continuing a privileged life, it's whether we'll have any sort of life other than poverty after.

How many people is it worth reducing to penury so grandparents can spend more time with grandchildren? People die of poverty too.

What happens when people with normal health problems can't be treated because the health services will be broke after this ends?

7 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

people’s mental health and domestic abuse

Lock people up and it's inevitable that mental issues currently suppressed will emerge, and that domestic violence will become a terrible problem. It's less than 2 weeks and police have said domestic violence is increasing. The government solution appears restricted to asking people to "love one another". They should have anticipated this and set up more shelters. On the positive side there are loads of empty motels they can use for the homeless and abused.

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Plus the travel thing will continue to be a nightmare easily for two years because different countries will be at different stages and yes there may be new strains that complicate this.

While I may disagree as to locking the country down, even I accept that mass air travel is probably dead for a year of more. Even if people were prepared to risk it, many that would like to travel are unlikely to have the spare cash to be able to do so. Anyway, hardly worth flying to another country on holiday if having to go into quarantine for 2 weeks.

If airlines have no customers for a year or more, I can't see flying coming back in the same way, or at least I hope so. Mass tourism has not been kind to host countries. Is that a silver lining?

However, the economic effect on all the thousands of people that once worked in overseas travel is going to be catastrophic, unless most can convert to domestic travel, which is the obvious way forward.

14 hours ago, Brunolem said:

but by then we would all be dead from the economic collapse anyway... 

Listening to talkback radio it does seem that the awful truth is starting to take hold. How long it takes for the government to wake up to the danger is another thing altogether.

9 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

The UK government were hinting today at even more stricter controls such as no outdoor exercise, should people  not comply as I think they now realise this flattening is going to take a lot longer than anticipated  Also they are worried this second wave could occur if they come out of lockdown too soon.

If they ban outdoor exercise IMO more people will die from complications of inactivity than from the Corona. What about walking to the supermarket? Many can't order on line for home delivery.

IMO if there is no vaccine it is altogether likely a second wave will occur when people come out of lockdown.

14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The majority of your '101 ways to die' are probably avoidable - we have no way of avoiding SARS-nCov-2019 unless we take exceptional and draconian measures. 

 

If I follow your reasoning correctly, every time we experience such an event we must lockdown and destroy our economies. So, if that is true, if we come out of lockdown and it starts again we must go back into lockdown. Not only that, but when the next similar virus starts we must repeat till a vaccine is developed, which takes up to or longer than a year.

I may be missing something, but that seems like a recipe for the destruction of our civilization. Tell me how I'm wrong.

12 hours ago, leggo said:

I'm in Vietnam right now where there are only 240 cases (85) recovered for a population of 95 million.The govt here has been extremely rigorous in quarantining, tracing, closing frontiers and closing it's airports and we feel pretty safe and confident that we will survive . To date no deaths. The government here was not persuaded to allow tourism to dictate it's policies which has been the case elsewhere!!!!  If you put money before health your country  will pay a heavy price. 

If citizens have no money, your country will pay a heavy price.

10 hours ago, Brewster67 said:

Most jobs will not exist by the end of the month let alone the end of the year.

 

I am far, far more worried about the man made catastrophe that is probably going to occur than I am about the virus.

The vast majority will either ( on current information ) not become sick at all, or will get over the symptoms, but if the economy is gone, society will not be far behind, IMO. To save the lives of some people with health problems that would might kill them anyway, governments are actively working to render millions unemployed, with all the horrendous consequences of that, IMO.

Without a vaccine, and no responsible expert I've heard is saying one will be ready in less than a year, every time we come out of lockdown the virus might start again. It only takes one symptom less infected traveler entering the country to start it over- it will be interesting to see what happens in China which does seem to be trying to go back to "normal".

On 4/5/2020 at 2:22 AM, Grumpy John said:

Just on the deaths. Every day the number of dead grow which doesn't seem to worry some people.   While it's numbers listed in a news post it doesn't really matter

....until of course it's someone close to them....or maybe it is them....then, I am guessing, in the after life they can tell the other spirits how unimportant the numbers listed really are.  Every life lost is a d@mn shame.

 

If every day we were informed of how many people died the previous day from natural ( health issues ) causes and accidents, including motor accidents etc, around the world, the current toll from Corona might seem less threatening.

12 hours ago, Walter Travolta said:

What you are missing is that with all the drum banging the left do about minority oppression, when they have a chance to back up their virtue signalling they fail everytime.

While the purported "leaders" of the party may bang on about such, it doesn't mean that a majority of the membership care about such. When I used to support Labour it was in the expectation that workers would get a better deal, but that was my only expectation of the party, The "diversity" and such was not important at all. The reason I stopped supporting Labour was that they changed from a worker's party to a "diversity" party and stopped trying to get a better deal for the workers. Far as that goes there is probably little difference between supposed conservative and worker parties now, just two sides of the same coin, IMO.

7 minutes ago, amykat said:

You guys should all meet for a vacation and have one huge circle jerk while continuing this pathetic discussion of your various theories ... and just give up women.

I came to my senses and have given up women. Had I realised that 40 years ago I'd be wealthy and happier now.

1 hour ago, Why Me said:

Well said. That is exactly the reason to wear a mask whether one agrees or not that it a health benefit. I was going out without a mask per WHO guidelines (which actually might be wrong) until I sensed few days ago I was making people uncomfortable. 

 

So got a 35b. mask right away and wear it now. Hardly a burden to mask up for the occasional foray outside.

Had I worn a mask at the supermarket last week I'd have been the odd one out. Most other people there were obviously aware that wearing a mask will not stop one becoming infected. I had taken one just in case, but it wasn't necessary.

The few people that were wearing one were not wearing goggles which negated any benefit the mask might have given them.

On 4/2/2020 at 4:46 AM, Farangwithaplan said:

So if you aren't listening to the science of masks, are you listening to amateurs who came up with the studies you refuse to link to?

 

Wear a mask if you are sick or have a pimple. If not, don't.

 

 

On the radio today a person that is supposedly an expert or government official ( I missed the start ) said that wearing a mask was MORE LIKELY to cause an infection because people were more likely to touch their face wearing one.

If one wants to wear one, one should also wear eye protection as a virus is as likely to enter through the eye as the nose, and resist touching their face.

4 minutes ago, CGW said:

Mine also, though it would have been nice!

This is a great time for humanity, all those that have been trying to decide what 'sex" they are & all the rest of the utter nonsense they have lapped up, thinking society will take care of them! welcome to reality! ????

There's a silver lining to this crisis. Haven't heard from Greta or her acolytes since it started. Mind you, she must be wetting herself with joy now that people don't fly anymore.

2 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Everest can do without your foot on it, but can your Thai missus do without you.  The buffalo get sick also.  ????

????????????? I have zero idea what my EX wife is doing. I haven't communicated with her since I left LOS.

1 minute ago, Leaver said:

The lock downs are forcing us to do it, that's why they have done the lock downs, world wide. 

 

As for the supermarket, yes, it's a risk, but it's take that smaller risk, or die of starvation.

 

Give a thought to what more you could have done with a longer life. 

 

LOL. Given my decrepitude, not a lot. The top of Everest with have to do without my foot on it.

6 minutes ago, Leaver said:

True, but not the point, is it?

 

Edward Snoden blew the whistle on mass surveillance.  No one gave that power to governments.   The governments just did it.   

 

The 5 eyes became the 9 eyes, and the 9 eyes became the 14 eyes.

I agree 100%, but there is nothing I can do about it so I'm not stressing- just using real money and not buying a smart phone, going on facebook etc.

Remember that saying about accepting the things we can't do anything about etc?

19 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Something that seems to be lost in translation for many who complain about bars and clubs being closed here.

More likely to get it at the supermarket and they haven't closed them and made us all eat spam delivered by catapult from the back of a truck.

Just now, CGW said:

There you go - a statement I can agree with, have some dignity folks ????     ????

I'd like to great death with some dignity, not with a tube down my throat, or hiding in my room.

Luckily I informed all relevant people I do not want resuscitation, if they take me to hospital and I can't talk. They can keep the ventilator for someone that has better life prospects than I.

6 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

Tourism will not restart before a successful vaccination campaign has been carried out worldwide. And to that, depending on the devastation of the economies, you can add one or more years before potential tourists even think of flying out to a place like Thailand, or what will be left of it. 3 to 5 years would be my guesstimate.

What happens when another virus comes along? repeat every time?

There's been a few so far. Very likely to be more.