thaibeachlovers

I like that

Define "essential". Seems to me that what government drones class as essential is merely a means of keeping a well paid job while doing nothing much, or even being bad for society- just make work for government lackeys that don't want to do a real job. I for one wish we had an Elon to lay waste to government malfeasance in this country.

Another sensible post.

I doubt they are able to. 75 years of socialism has made Euro men into soft creatures. It takes hard times to breed hard men.

Perhaps Trump really doesn't care one way or the other about Ukraine, and only cares that he'll get a peace prize if he is seen as ending it. On these pages it seems as though the entire world's countries care about Ukraine- they don't. Most of them don't care if Russia takes it all- makes zero difference to them, and a lot of them are more friendly with Russia and Russia's ally China than the west, which colonized and exploited them. Here's a surprise for some on here, most of the planet's countries don't worship western democracy, seeing it for what it really is with it's perpetual wars in the M E, and they are not impressed. BTW. Chamberlain had no choice as Britain had no military capable of defeating Germany, so he was at the disadvantage. Even after Churchill's re armanent the Germans easily defeated the British in France. Appeasement was his only realistic option at that time. Ergo, Trump is not doing a Chamberlain- it's just that he has more important things to concentrate on and doesn't care.

Perhaps because Ukraine isn't worth it. Perhaps because they are not militarily capable, having run down their military's since the end of the Iron Curtain. Perhaps because in their hearts they know it's American Great Game BS. Perhaps because they can't afford it. Perhaps because they know that doing so would result in unemployment after the next elections. Perhaps because most Euro people don't believe in it. I can think of many reasons for not doing so, and can't think of any logical reason why Ukraine is so important that it's deserves risking nuclear winter if NATO countries attack Russia directly.

Thanks for that. I never heard it used in that context before.

I did a quick search about that, but not able to ascertain why you think it is so serious, given it didn't result in widespread contamination, or an explosion. Perhaps you can educate us as to why it is so serious?

I don't know that MAGA is the "enemy within", rather the hordes of uneducated aliens invited in by our lords and masters. Shades of the fall of Rome when the mercenaries hired to protect Rome decided to take it over. Regardless, I agree that whatever the cause, the west is doomed, too much debt, too much corruption to walk it back, and the political will is with the liberal ethos, no matter how barking. Trump may well halt the liberal tide for a while, but in the end another Canute. Any society that seriously considered that a man can actually BE a woman is IMO in the end stages, never mind the covid lockdown insanity and the man made climate fiasco. Spending all the people's money on war doesn't help. Every million $ missile is money NOT spent on improving citizen's lives. Trump may hasten the fall of the American era, or not, but the end is coming, and it's not going to be pretty.

and here comes Trump to save the day for Russia. It's not like anyone can claim they didn't know that was going to happen when Trump won the election. He signaled it often enough. The error of Biden was not taking him seriously and stepping in to negotiate for Ukraine, which would have resulted in a better deal than what Zelensky is going to get. Trump isn't even involving Ukraine or Europe in the negotiations. Why would he? They were always junior partners, not to be taken seriously with their minor contributions. They don't even have serious military's, IMO. Run down by years of cost cutting. Putin said long ago he wanted to negotiate, but Zelensky's ridiculous "never negotiate" stance killed any chance of a better deal. IMO Trump cares nothing for Ukraine and is going to get the best deal for the US re raw materials, as the price for letting Ukraine exist. For Trump, only the US matters, IMO.

IMO the CIA wanted to bleed Russia slowly like they did in Afghanistan, letting people other than US soldiers do the dying as they played the great Game. The UK got involved because they are the US poodle. Seems some in US government are still in 1960's mode.

IMO, but for Ukraine Scholz would have remained an unknown nobody outside Germany. Trying to retain his place in the history books with an ineffectual and nonsense pronouncement.

If they are being sold down the river, it's entirely self inflicted. Only fools do not learn from history. I remember well the alacrity with which they joined in, and spent all the money on bombs and missiles in Ukraine instead on the people that provided the tax. Whether Trump is Putin's poodle or not it's time for this embarrassment to western society being consigned to history under the topic of "stupid wars that didn't have to happen".

Perhaps like the cat being both dead and alive at the same time, Russia can be virtually destroyed militarily and still capable of taking over Europe against a nuclear armed NATO. Even Albert would be at a loss to understand the warmongers characterization of Russia.

Al Jazeera characterised it as Vance "lecturing" his audience. IMO they deserve more than a spot of lecturing, but corporal punishment has been banned by the wokeistas.

Unfortunately they will not learn an iota from Vance's speech and blame Trump for all their troubles- standard excuse for liberals today- if caught being antidemocratic just deflect to Trump. One hopes the next election sees the entire cabal banished to the political wilderness, but I have no doubt the bribery will be full on to retain the IMO corrupt present system, so I'm not holding my breath- the sheeple care only about woke issues and the latest toys.

When I was in the military a tankie is someone in an armoured vehicles corps. I have zero idea if that is what he means, nor do I care. Best ignored.

Fair enough. I expect the final agreement to look something like that. Had Ukraine negotiated at the start, they'd be doing so from a far more favourable standpoint, and not lost as much land. Can they thank Boris for that? Don't ever trust a clown.

Don't want to accept the inevitable end on terms unfavourable to Ukraine then? Even the Sun might get things right sometimes.

Given what you just wrote, and given that anyone with a clue knew that 3 years ago, it was in no one's interest to start. This isn't the like the Iraq wars, nice desert to speed tanks over and a massive air advantage- it's a war fought in a bog for part of the year with trenches and WW1 style attrition. WW1 only ended when the US sent more cannon fodder, but in this situation that is as likely as Trump resigning.

Bolton is an idiot warmonger IMO and Trump did the right thing is sacking him.

Does Kasparov, or yourself, understand what using nukes means- seems not. There is no possibility of a first strike denying Russia a nuclear retaliation and hey presto we all die in nuclear winter. Does his chatter about a spine mean that the Euros need to put their military into Ukraine- cue WW3.

It's good to see some common sense on here. I especially liked the bit "Schrödinger’s cat was a thought experiment to highlight the absurdity of certain quantum interpretations—not to flat-out disprove them." Even a simple wikipedia search say that. I recently had cause to research that very subject.

To the poster with the sad emoji- you know who you are- you're going to be a lot sadder in the near future as you see your dreams of Zelensky driving a tank through the Kremlin gates vanish like the dream you had last night.

Even the BBC is capable of understanding reality. I suspect any attempt to deviate from the official UK position was met with a visit from certain people. That position is now as tenuous as a snowflake on a sunny day. For those on here wondering when Trump was going to end the war, you just saw the end beginning.