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9 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

The gold standard only worked as long as people believed in the fairytale about notes being convertible to gold.

They never were.... not if many wanted to convert their notes.

 

Banking is based on trust. Trust is based on trustworthy institutions and their managers / governments. Trust ended a long time ago.

 

Besides, even centuries ago, what do you think happened when new rich gold deposits (as in mines)  were discovered? Gold down, silver up.... next new silver found, and back to gold, next ..... etc.

 

I certainly do not pretend to have the answers, but at least I know that I don't have the answers - therefore I know more than all those famous experts combined.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree with you. My way of dealing with the situation is to invest in my kids and a good woman..and a bit of fun.   Always skint and happy.

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

Exactly. Most business owners are morons. The only way they will get the message is to quit trading with them. 

As a smoker, I agree...smoking must be after dining, and should be outside, its just good manners.

Actually, I can't remember seeing anyone smoking whilst they are eating..must be a strange and skillful task

33 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

I'll take the $1m if you don't mind. When you're ready.

Theres been a rush on the $1m at the moment, so I can only oblige with a paper note signed by an official bar girl, somewhere in walking street. [But as good as a Fed note]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

I agree  - and I am / OK, I was a macro economist.

Except: what you say about the gold standard. It was based on nothing (gold is as much nothing as any other material), and it never worked.....

 

I'm afraid you are right..but fiat currency and governments can not be trusted, and only lead to ever increasing debt.   Would you prefer a million in gold or a million in fiat paper?  The gold standard did work until greed and debt ruled.

On 03/10/2017 at 9:06 AM, lucjoker said:

bought euros in March at 36,5 and sold them 2 weeks ago at 39,7

this is 3,2 bht /eu  , that's 80 000 bht profit for each 25 000 eu .

Now waiting until december ......if it's back to 36,5 ......i'll do it again .

it is just a matter of time and the numbers will turn good again.

I sold my house foor 11 milj bht.....so calculate.

No stockmarket for me .

 

Wise moves, but perhaps you should have bought Bitcoin.

On 26/11/2016 at 3:27 AM, fvw53 said:

Is somebody really able to predict the economy : even Fed Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan had no clue of the crash until the day it happened in 2008.

A good economy is where the people believe it is good

A bad economy is where the people believe it is bad

The investors are like a bunch of small dogs : if one dog pees against a tree...all the dogs rush to this tree...until one starts to bark and panic hits

Spot on mate!   An economist is as good as a gypsy fortune teller with a crystal ball.

The only people that can predict a crash are the people that cause it.

The solution is to bring back the gold standard.

14 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Why would anybody want to ask a Conspiracy nut anything whatsoever?

It appears that conspiracy theories often turn out to be the truth. 

25 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

When the petrodollar crashes in December 2018 most of the world's currencies will go with it. All that stored rice will come in handy for barter.

 

The FED keeps the rate low so the banks can continue to proffit.

How can you be so precise as December,  the petrodollar must be the worlds biggest fiddle..the Americans will do everything in their power to preserve it.

11 hours ago, The manic said:

The vast majority of people do not smoke. It is a habit of the ignorant and obdurate. It is an indefensible habit which severely damages the health of the smoker and the people around him. It stinks and no smoker has a right to impose their  filth on other people. It's nauseating. People who think otherwise are deluded. If people wish to smoke then they can do so at home. Nothing clever, crown, up about smokers. JUst silly sick souls lacking in character, with gurgling coughs, hacking and sneezing their dirt on to other people....and not understanding why we hate the chimneys! 

You are an admirable fellow, but I feel it must be the greatest boon, not to be as perfect as you.  Happily, I don't claim to be 'clever',

'crown', or 'up about smoking',  whatever you mean by that.  I just know that one mans meat is another mans poison. 

Sadly, I believe that you were born too early, it may be 1000 years before you find your perfect society.  However, for the time being you will have to put up with Pattaya noise, smells, drunks, pollution, drugs, murders, suicides, theft, lies, bribery, debauchery, accidents, bad drains, intollerance, and different people. Good luck with that....  Meanwhile, lets hope the fun goes on for the indefensible sinners.

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

You should ask yourself why this makes you so angry. Perhaps make some changes in your own life to help you relax a little more

Anger is as a stone cast into a wasp's nest [or the Pattaya Forum]. Pope Paul VI

There are many more important things that affect ones health, that one SHOULD be angry about.

On 18/04/2017 at 8:35 AM, chilli42 said:

Market forces in response to political and central bank words and actions

We are a significant market force...Tourism. 

15 hours ago, The manic said:

I live a long way from pollution. Tolerance is a two way street and smokers should be aware of the damage to the health of staff in bars, be aware of the dreadful smell of ashtrays, and recognise that even through they might have got used to the stink other people do not want their bodies or clothes to smell rank. Smoking is not to be tolerated anymore than spitting or other dirty, unhygenic, anti social habits. It is the habit of oafs, morons and those who think they are still living in the 1950s.  That is the reason it is curtailed in many countries including Thailand.

Dont knock the 1950s., a time when GB led the world in aviation, trade, finance, shipping,  education, received pronounciation,  and good manners....And even Churchill smoked..and no-one complained of the 'awful smell'.  GB has been in steady decline since his cigar finally extinguished. These days, in the UK, your 'anti social oafs and morons', are governing a nation of 'clever' indoctrinated PC zombies and feminist ideologistic fundamentalists. 

Never mind..when Islam governs GB, there will be a fatwa banning smoking and alcohol etc... happiness will ensue.

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Taking a walk down the street in Tokyo as you pass the entrance to the car-parks the smell of smoke is at the least noticeable and more often than not quite strong. 

 

It surprised me that this was allowed. While I like the idea of preventing people from smoking on the streets which effects non-smokers, there must be a better way of handling this instead of placing smokers out of the way, hiding them in car-parks like second-class citizens. 

 

So, I don't think Japan has it right either, but the smoking booths you mention are a start, I've never seen one though. I'd hope they are very well ventilated, if they are anything like the smoking booths at the airports they would be horrific. 

 

 

With regards to smoking I would like to see a couple of things happen. I'd like to see smokers be more considerate of those around them and do their best in their attempts to avoid non-smokers while smoking. 

I would also like to see the shrinking-violets prevent themselves from their childish over reactions when the 'smell a little cigarette smoke'. Equally so, the non-smoking nazi's could do with lightening up a little. 

 

In short - a balanced all round mutual respect for those who do not do things the same way or have the same habits would go a long way towards making life a lot easier for all concerned when these issues crop up. 

 

Your last paragraph is the key to an advanced, tolerant civilisation, away from misguided ideologies and  anti-smoking fundamentalists. Another 100 years of science and technology may see peace on Earth, and Pattaya...hopefully.

2 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

Nothing about demons or angels. Equivocation of cigarette smoke in enclosed restaurants (where it is already banned by law) to pollution or vehicle engines is the only exclusive domain of so called "smokers". Simply, they are self entitled and deluded addicts who insist foisting cigarette smoke on all and sundry is some kind of right of a free man upon the land.

 

I have only confronted them two times in my life once when I saw a lit cigarette thrown out a car window on RED fire day in a national forest ( physically attacked, that did not work out well for the culprit) and a drunk in an elevator(some vile threat). Something wrong with these people.

 

I us d to think banning smoking outdoors was too much but visited Sapporo, Japan this month they have smoking cabins now at the public parks paid for by the tobacco industry, and a fine for walking with a cig in certain areas. No smoke allowed near the kids swings and slides.

 

A very reasonable solution to "the smoker question".

 

 

 

 

 

On 09/09/2017 at 4:32 AM, joecoolfrog said:

Yeh most smokers are demons and most non smokers are angels !!!

2 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

Nothing about demons or angels. Equivocation of cigarette smoke in enclosed restaurants (where it is already banned by law) to pollution or vehicle engines is the only exclusive domain of so called "smokers". Simply, they are self entitled and deluded addicts who insist foisting cigarette smoke on all and sundry is some kind of right of a free man upon the land.

 

I have only confronted them two times in my life once when I saw a lit cigarette thrown out a car window on RED fire day in a national forest ( physically attacked, that did not work out well for the culprit) and a drunk in an elevator(some vile threat). Something wrong with these people.

 

I us d to think banning smoking outdoors was too much but visited Sapporo, Japan this month they have smoking cabins now at the public parks paid for by the tobacco industry, and a fine for walking with a cig in certain areas. No smoke allowed near the kids swings and slides.

 

A very reasonable solution to "the smoker question".

 

 

 

 

 

On 08/09/2017 at 0:47 AM, morrobay said:

 This place must be paradise for some folks around here : Reckless drivers, smoking in restaurants, rude Asian males. Outside of the oblivious and those for the girls, why would any others put up with it ?

Let all the great English non-smokers who are of course, pure in thought, without sin or bad habits be the first to cast the many stones.

13 hours ago, The manic said:

Smokers are no better than people who take a dump in front of you or sh*t on a table or restaurant floor. They should pay more for drinks and pay for the laundry bills of non smokers and pay for the health insurance of the Thai Staff. Smokers are a tiny minority of people who ruin places for 90% of non smokers. Ignorant, anti social bullies.

Paradoxically you appear to be living in a vast city, heavily polluted with diesel particulates, grumbling about a puff of tobacco smoke.   If you were seriously concerned about your health, perhaps you might consider moving to a rural area.

As for price increases..it might be a good idea for the forum to charge a fee of 1000B for each grumbling quote...

Theres nothing as important as tolerance in a large cosmopolitan 'crazy' city.

6 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

Good Lord!....I must have a smoke now.

4 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

 

You you are a pariah. Smoke in your allotted areas and understand that those who have the sense/strength not to smoke have a greater right to enjoy their freedoms.

Thats a good attitude, lets not ban everything as they do in the UK..where even free speech is banned, I'm sure one is also not allowed to think !  Giving a passing compliment to a woman might land one in front of a judge.

Health warning:  England may contain nuts.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I wasn't talking about banning all smoking in all places. But in small totally enclosed areas with no ventilation even one smoker smokes up the place. A large table of them ... what happened to me the other night. I don't see how any reasonable person can say that's a reasonable thing to allow in such spaces. But like I said, the restaurant and group were from a different culture where what I think of as reasonable limits are just not on their radar. 

Yes thats fair, one used not to smoke at the table, but retired to drawing room afterwards with a cigar or pipe..old fashioned manners, but sensible. Personally,  always chose an open air restaurant, seated by the roadside where I smoke  a combination of tobacco and mo'cy exhaust without causing offence.

On 01/09/2017 at 7:09 PM, Jingthing said:

They are not on any social media.

I can't name and shame them here.

It's against forum policy. 

But to be fair, I know the place and already knew they allow smoking.

So I made the choice to go in there knowing that and probably will again.

But certainly not nearly as often after tonight's experience. 

The nationality that they mostly serve are very often restaurant smokers. Say no more. 

From their POV, it would hurt their business much more to ban smoking than to cater to people like me that really can't stand it. 

 

Anyway, does anyone know if what they are allowing there is even LEGAL? 

I need a smoke when I'm socialising with English women..its my nerves!  

If you ban smoking, logically you should ban diesel exhaust from cars and those huge coaches, ban alcohol, processed food, sugar, and women...[only joking].  An incorrect diet is the killer... what are you eating in your restaurant?..Get fat and follow the black cloud behind the bus, and worry about a ciggy.

Following a report in the Pattaya Mail: ..Sink fishing boats to make reefs...Expect the price of fish to double. Surely the Thais wont put up the EU skullduggery.

Next might be 'elff and safety' hard hats in the bars. Only one on a mocye. Farmland 'set aside'. Pineapple mountains. Vegetables all the same size. Precisely curved bananas. QE bankruptcy. Subsidized stupidity.

Don't you just miss it all.

I have no doubt these people mean well..but I'm sure they would save more souls if they were to discourage their government from having wars and bombing people to bits.

Looks like they are trying to steer brawls to Thai-Arab rather than typical Brit or Aussie dust up.

Its going to be a bit boring now then.

There seems to have been more random roadside vehicle checks.. Or am I getting more paranoid? Would one of these 'changes' count?

You were probably wong and they think you ting tong and no rukkin rissen, but rubbery story

If you are paying for a woman..she will tell you what you like to hear.

If you want to attract a woman..you will tell her what she likes to hear

Its a global problem, not confined to Patters. The world is built with lies..Enjoy it.

Denial.

Don't go to pattaya if you want to find an ho.est woman, unless you speak Thai and have a few years to look.

Well, theres no doubt, that is indeed the best advice one could give on the subject... Unfortunately, with regards to women, man will rarely/never take advice.

I met mine in a minor traffic accident 18 years ago, . She is a faithful, trusted, helpmate....I could not wish for a better partner....But I' m not recommending traffic accidents....It just seems that they, women and accidents, both come best when one is not looking for them.

'You can not expect someone to love you unless you pay them in one way or another.' Oscar Wilde.