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4 minutes ago, Slip said:McCarthy is doing just what you do here every day. Playing dumb and pretending. Make an accusation with no basis, then deflect repeatedly.
Read my post carefully, then respond appropriately if you want. Otherwise don't pollute the thread with your normal pendantry and claims of not really understanding the issues on which you comment. If you can do that I may respond again.
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1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
I didnt know that .
BTW , how do you know that ?
How do you know what McCarthy thinks ?
McCarthy is doing just what you do here every day. Playing dumb and pretending. Make an accusation with no basis, then deflect repeatedly.
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42 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Because this thread is about the left using government agencies to harrass right wing politicians.
If Trump is re-elected and Biden's house is suddenly getting raided by the FBI you will see me argue the same point from the Dem side.
Because this thread is about the left using government...
No, it isn't. That is your "neutral" misrepresentation of the matter once again. The thread is about a search warrant being served at Mar A Lago. The loaded language is yours.
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6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
I was referring to Merrick Garland , who was appointed by Joe Biden and he would have had to agree to and sign off the raid by the FBI on Donalds house .
As he would have had to agree to it and give permission for the raid , I do think that its quite acceptable to refer to him as a "boss" of the FBI
Boss "a person who is in charge of a worker, group, or organization."
Now you are making yourself look foolish.
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19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Untrue.
Neutrals like myself hate to see a great country like the US lowering itself like this. As do many a patriotic American that DOES have the right to vote.
You can call yourself neutral in every single post if you like. Still fooling no one with half a brain.
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11 minutes ago, billd766 said:
Why do YOU in particular need to know what is going on? Are you part of the investigating team? Part of Trump's team.
Perhaps the FBI are still investigating and gathering more information, and when they have finished their investigation they will report the results to the people who ordered the investigation who will decide what should happen next.
I very much doubt if you are on the need to know list.
Now, that's a shame. After his original demand I was just about to tell him about the inner workings of the FBI, but not now. Notwithstanding Johnnie's obvious forthcoming disappointment I commend you on an otherwise most excellent post. 55.
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1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:Apart from a little fear that this will lead to the end of the world I would somehow like to see what will happen if Americans vote for Trump another time.
Will they then change the constitution so that he can stay forever?
Will they also change the laws to that the president has absolute power?
To what new extremes will he rise? I am sure it will be worse than any of us can imagine.
And last but not least: Will at any time in this process the big majority of Americans wake up and decide enough is enough? Or will they continue to support him until the bitter end?
To be fair a big majority of Americans had woken up at the last election; a landslide majority. Let's just hope they don't slide back into the abyss.
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1 minute ago, JonnyF said:Please tell us all exactly what reason they have to believe that raiding his home will uncover evidence of this 'crime'.
Facts only please.
I'm not in the FBI, but a judge signed off on it, so that will do for me for now. The rest should become clearer later. Have some patience.
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5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:Yes, its entertainment , shock jocks are quite popular in the USA .
You shouldn't take him seriously as a news source , his job is to be extreme and outrageous
Well, he got a bit too extreme and a bit too outrageous and damaged people with his lies. Now the piper needs to be paid. I don't have an ounce of sympathy for him.
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Just now, JonnyF said:Far right would be the likes of the American Freedom Party and American Independent party amongst others.
It's veering a bit off topic now though, this thread is about the USA rapidly descending into the murky realms of politicized law enforcement, more akin to third world banana republics. A sad day.
No it isn't about that. That's just your 'neutral observer' attempt to mischaracterise it. It's about the FBI having reason to believe Trump committed a crime and acting accordingly, which is what it is there to do. As a 'neutral observer' you are not entitled to your own facts.
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4 hours ago, JonnyF said:I'm not even a fan of Trump (nice deflection though). I thought he had some good policies and some bad policies, and while he could come across as a bit of a loose cannon at times I never really understood the Left's unhinged obsession with him. It was bordeline psychotic at times.
That said, as a non-Amercian neutral observer it's painfully obvious to see <snip for brevity>
"Neutral observer" ????????????
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19 minutes ago, transam said:Gotta feel for those who continually bring up Brexit on any thread.......????...........Must be Brexit Syndrome........????..............????
Indeed- and here is what RayC was replying to when he mentioned Brexit in response:
Perhaps you should have a word with your fellow Gammonati.
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^Slightly above: a disavowing trump fanboy lecturing on fiscal responsibility. Some of these people are so far over the edge that it may be too late.
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6 hours ago, roquefort said:
Exactly. The current crop of politicians on both sides is the worst in living memory. Believing that changing one set of clowns for another is going to improve anything is living in cloud cuckoo land.
You miss the point. The "all politicians are as bad as us" thing is a right wing trope. As long as the Tories go there should be some improvement.
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35 minutes ago, placeholder said:
Thanks for exposing your right wing agenda. I got news for you. Years ago, during the Clinton adiministration welfare payments were slashed. And during Covid some states prematurely cut benefits out of the belief that workers would go back to work. That failed big time.
And your use of the labor force participation rate re unemployment makes no sense. As I pointed out earlier it includes most people aged 16 or older except those in the military, in prisons, in nursing homes and mental hospitals. So as the population ages the labor force participation rate is going to decline. The unemployment rate is nearly at a record low and employers are complaining that they can't find workers.
And as for stopping illegal immigration first. If immigrants stop being able to find jobs they'll stop coming. So why the emphasis on the border? Because it distracts from this fact and is a useful emotional issue for the right. As I've pointed out before, make hiring immigrants a felony, and enforce that law, and illegal immigration will drastically decline. So why do you want to put this second instead of first?
Yeah, who would have thought? Apparently, the real answer to illegal immigration is to cut benefits to citizens and pay the money to corporations. Hilarious.
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4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Its sourced from here ????
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive
Thank you. I had missed that one.
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1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:
Should I have also posted this then? Apologies
Approximately 1 in 10 people who use marijuana will become addicted. When they start before age 18, the rate of addiction rises to 1 in 6.
Yes- I saw that too. It's unsourced.
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1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:
Well you stated off saying that this was an opinion piece only, I referred you to the article that yes indeed it is but one based on sources and studies, now your verging on another debate on whether you find a study credible.
Here is the source and its a meta analysis which is one of the best, plus peer reviewed:
A Review of Cases of Marijuana and Violence
Whether you are convinced or not is immaterial to me.
Then why bother to post it in the first place? Anyway whether you care or not if your arguments and evidence are convincing isn't really the point. I should perhaps have explained better that this article is an opinion piece with the main idea that "Heavy marijuana use among youths is leading to more addiction and antisocial behavior".
As interesting as some of the details in the article may be, there is no evidence in the article to support your bolded section of the text, and scant little to support the second except perhaps in a very specific subset of people already suffering mental illness problems.
The poster you were replying to was making the case that there is no evidence that marijuana is addictive, which is presumably why you bolded that phrase.
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3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Thats your opinion, but the article as I said cites sources and studies:
"But can pot make people violent? A study last year found that young people with mood disorders such as depression who also smoke weed are 3.2 times more likely to self-harm and die from murder – often after starting violence – than those who didn’t. A meta-analysis found that the risk of engaging in violence was more than twice as high among young adults who used marijuana. It is possible that marijuana can trigger dangerous behaviors in adolescents who are absent for other reasons, such as B. prenatal drug exposure, are predisposed to it."
Well, yes, as it says "it is possible". Not really very compelling. There is a lot of this sort of language in it. I am not necessarily disagreeing with you, just saying that I don't find her article necessarily particularly convincing. Here are some other quotes:
"It could be a coincidence", "It’s much easier for young people to get hooked. One in 6 people who start using pot while under 18 will develop an addiction" (uncited in the linked source), "Researchers have yet to prove a causal relationship", "It’s possible that pot can trigger dangerous behavior", "legalization seems to be leading to more pregnant women using pot." (The linked study actually seems to compare pre and post-covid use as opposed to increases following legalisation which happened in 1996 (medical) or 2016 (recreational). -
2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:
If you actually read the article it also gives sources with real studies and statistics that informs those opinions
This is what you quoted:
QuoteHeavy marijuana use among youths is leading to more addiction and antisocial behavior.
There is nothing in the article or any of the agenda-laden sources she quotes that I can find to back up the claim. I'm just not sure it is very compelling to back up your opinion with someone else's opinion, especially when they have a clear agenda.
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2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:
Heavy marijuana use among youths is leading to more addiction and antisocial behavior.
If you look carefully at the top of that article you may be able to make out it says in quite large font- "Opinion".
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3 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:
You do understand that Starmer didn't commit an infraction, don't you?
That's what it means when the police say that after conducting an investigation that was described as "thorough, detailed and proportionate" they "concluded that there is no case to answer...."
This is of course, in complete contrast to the actions of Boris and his minions at Number 10 where after a similarly thorough investigation a total of 126 fixed penalty notices were issued.
To the right wing's willing cannon fodder it's not a crime if you are one of the annointed, and if you are not, then it's a crime whatever you do.
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5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:Wold you accept a Washington post report on the same story saying the same thing ?
"But hours later, the Washington Post acknowledged what conservative critics had been saying for days: that the story, first reported July 1 by the Indianapolis Star, is highly dubious."
There is nothing in your WP linked article that acknowledges the story is "highly dubious". Please stop misrepresenting.
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1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:I agree, not everyone saw the clear evidence of Johnson not being fit for office, not everyone predicted he’d be ousted.
The usual suspects have been noticeably quiet for the last 24 hours or so.
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