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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:
From what I see on google, the GOP have 3 seats almost called. If so and the number confirmed is 98 they don't need Georgia, though a 2 seat majority would obviously be better.
I'm not sure where google are getting their figures. CNN show arizona: 51.7% to 46.1% in the Dems favour with 80% counted, Georgia: 49.6% to 48.3 to the Dems (runoff expected) with 99% counted, Nevada: 49.0% to 48.0% to the GOP with 88% counted. Reuters also show Arizona: 51.7% to 46.1% (80% counted), Georgia 49.6 to 48.3, also 99% counted, and Nevada: 48% to 49% (GOP) with 88% counted. The Grauniad differ with 49.4 to 48.55 in Georgia (99% reported).
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Various different sources are reporting the republican senate tally at 49 and others at 48, as kindly posted by members on the thread. Can anyone reconcile the discrepancy as I can't see to find out where it is.
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1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
The British public are aware that it was the British people who voted for Brexit and it wasn't the Conservative manifesto .
The U.K has moved on from Brexit and the popularity of the Political parties will depend on their current performance
In your opinion presumably? Don't give up.
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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:
Of course not, but MPs could have done it has there been the political will to do so. Calling the referendum in an attempt to unite the Tory party was the mistake that Cameron will regret to his dying day and will never be forgiven for.
Agreed. It's starting to look like this craven decision may have been the touch paper that leads to the destruction of the Conservative party for the foreseeable future.
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25 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:
Depends if witty or just rubbish.
But if it gets deleted before you see it, you never know. I'm always disappointed to follow a mod in 5 minutes after a clean up.
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When I saw the headline I thought this was going to be about the authorities tackling the intimidation from armed magas at polling stations. Imagine my surprise that it's a different wing involved.
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4 minutes ago, heybruce said:I assume this was a state level poll conducted in Georgia, the place the polling organization is located.
"Trafalgar Group only conducts state-level polls; according to Cahaly, "we don't do national polls, and that's for the same reason I don't keep up with hits in a baseball game: It's an irrelevant statistic" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafalgar_Group
In addition I note that the survey is in partnership with "Convention of States Action"-
QuoteAccording to The Dangerous Path report, COS "has deep ties" to the tea party movement, the American Legislative Exchange Council and the Koch brothers."[4]
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Convention_of_States_Action
...but few have been as well-funded or as ideologically driven as the Convention of States Project, steeped in evangelical Christianity and backed by millions of dollars in dark money.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Convention_of_States_Action
So we can see they are highly partisan if sourcewatch are to believed. Trafalgar group seem a bit weird too- something about "social desirability bias" although their election polls do seem to be historically reasonably accurate for election predictions.
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1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
It is on topic and how about you stop telling me I can and cannot say ?
IMO Both Kim and Trump took the talks seriously , but that is something that cannot be proven , unless both of them are asked directedly .
I can indeed claim that
You got there in the end. Well done.
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Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:
How would you expect me to prove certain people took the talks seriously ?
That cannot be proven either way .
Then don't claim it. Let's try to keep on topic, and my apologies to all if I've dragged it off.
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1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
You keep asking for evidence .
What do you expect me to do ?
Can you show any evidence that Kim didn't take the talks seriously ?
Those are things neither of us can provide evidence for
You made a claim (they both took these talks seriously), Place holder asked you to provide evidence for your claim. You couldn't or wouldn't and then somehow expect him to prove your claim untrue. This is hardly the first time. Please stop it.
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3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:Just facts. I deal in facts. He is embarrassing.
That is literally an opinion, or should we call it a maga-fact?
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On 11/2/2022 at 3:21 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:
Here's another hotel which is closed to paying guests and free for asylum seekers , been closed for 17 months now .
Couple's wedding reception cancelled because hotel is being used to house migrants
The Home Office has said it had no choice but to book hotels for migrants despite weddings having to be cancelled, it has been reported.
It comes after reports that a bride and groom saw their wedding reception cancelled 11 days before so a hotel could house migrants.
According to The Times the department has paid out large sums to block book rooms to cope with an influx of people crossing the Channel.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/couples-wedding-reception-cancelled-because-24598832
Why are you quoting me with this? I have made no comment on whether or not hotels are closing to normal customers due to housing immigrants. All I said was that I haven't seen anyone on here denying that is true and asked you to provide me with an example, which you can't or won't do on the basis that it is somehow 'commenting on moderation'.
For the record I have no problem with your suggestion that local councils are booking out entire hotels to house asylum seekers. I only said I hadn't seen anyone on here denying it as you claimed. You won't support that claim. Up to you.
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17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
That is a false allegation .
I have never made anything up .
Do stop lying .
The forum which it broke, I am not allowed to comment on that
You say it's false. You say you didn't make anything up. You call me a liar, but you won't give an example to prove your point that you didn't make it up. You even go as far as to claim you can't say which forum rule would be broken by giving an example because that in itself would break some mysterious forum rule. Laughable. ????
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6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Actually the reason I have so many posts is that for every post I make I am hounded by around 4 or 5 posters, saying I am MAGA, denigrating my country of birth, claiming I am a Trump fan etc.
That's fine, I've got my big boy pants on and I enjoy a good debate when work is quiet. So despite their vitriol towards me, I believe it's the right thing to do to reply with a reasoned, polite response to explain my position. As I have in this post with you ????.
If you were to stop pushing maga conspiracies you would get a lot fewer critical responses.
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2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
It would be against the forum rules for me to reply to your request
How so? Specifically what forum rule would you be breaking to offer evidence for a claim you have made? Regardless, as you are unable or unwilling to back up your claim it will have to be filed in the rather busy category of 'stuff Mac Mickmanus just made up'.
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1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
Local UK Councils have been booking out whole hotels, four star hotel to house asylum seekers , that has often been denied on here .
Four star hotels in prime locations
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Often denied on here? It's the first I've seen of it. Can you provide any examples?
Meanwhile the local Tory MPs have been steaming in and quashing those deals in short order. (In their own constituencies at least).
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46 minutes ago, nauseus said:It's claims like this that encourage more political strife.
Your attempt to move the goalposts notwithstanding, you are wrong. It is entirely the point of view that you are supporting that leads to political strife. The MAGA movement is actively and demonstrably fomenting political violence and intimidation as a normal way to go about your goals.
I'm done. If I want to play chess with a pigeon I'll buy an outside board.
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24 minutes ago, nauseus said:There has been plenty of evidence of him promoting maga/q ideologies very very recently. There may be an argument that this particular individual has mental issues, however, you miss the point. It's the normalisation and promotion of political violence by MAGA, which will lead to more and more situations like this, that means there is no conflation but only connection in the post you replied to.
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50 minutes ago, nauseus said:But it also seems there are millions of people who seem to think that conflating two separate issues is useful.
The links between the perpetrator and MAGA seem to have been pretty well established thus far. It isn't conflation when there is connection.
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4 minutes ago, tgw said:defending against occupiers on Ukrainian territory cannot be seen as an escalation.
Never mind that. As Placeholder showed above Gweiloman's post is pure BS driven by Putin's propaganda.
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Right wing sources have been suggesting a sex-for-hire situation gone wrong, and even some posters here have pushed the 'who was the other person in the house?' deflection. Seems we can put these to bed now:
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5 hours ago, placeholder said:
Hmmm....it seems that there is one extremely prominent Republican who hasn't condemned the attack. Can't think of that person's name at the moment. You got any idea who that might be?
and here's a noxious comment from one of his revolting brood laughing at and glorifying such political violence:
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4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:
So where did you base your analysis of this claim?
He made it up, as he usually does.
Quote“Elon now controls twitter. Unleash the racial slurs. K---S AND N-----S,” said one account, using slurs for Jews and Black people. “I can freely express how much I hate n-----s … now, thank you elon,” another said.
Racial slurs were posted rampantly. One single-word tweet, showing a single racial slur in all capital letters, was retweeted more than 700 times and liked more than 5,000 times. It was tweeted Thursday night and remained online more than 16 hours later.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/28/musk-twitter-racist-posts/
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3 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:
The way that you interpret the implications of something is hardly my fault! Look, I'm very much afraid that if the debate is going to be held at this level and descend into an interpretation of English language usage, rather than anything of substance, we can't play together any more. I can't be much clearer on these things than I have already set out in my earlier post.
It's a (fundamentally dishonest) rhetorical device.
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Keep adding more qualifications to make your ridiculousness yet more ridiculous. It's quite amusing for many of us I'm sure.