Gonsalviz

1. Will you be allowed on your flight without a visa or onward ticket within 30 days?

2. Believe you are asking about a single entry non immigrant O visa in Vientiane? You need marriage certificate and copy of her home register at most places in the area now. It is also good to have a letter asking for visa to be issued.

3. The extension of stay for one year requirement is 40k per month as stated in a letter from your Embassy. Or 400k in your name at Thai bank account for 2 months.

4. With show of money you may be able to obtain a multi entry but not likely from Vientiane - KL seems to be the best place for that currently. It would cost about 5,000 baht in local currency.

I have never had a problem going to Thailand with one way ticket.

A letter from whom?

I am guessing that if I apply for a multiple O and it is not approved then a single O will be issued.

Is my bank book enough proof?

For Laos I need photos and the fee. (I forget the amount.)

For Thailand, I have:

Birth Cert.

Photos

and Marriage Cert.

I saw something about requiring ฿20,000 per month. How do I prove that. I have a bank account at Kasikorn that I can transfer money to. Is the bank book good enough or do I have to get a letter from the bank? Is this really necessary? I did all this before but it was a long time ago and things have had to have changed since then.

Anything else?

How much is a multiple O?

How do I to maximize my stay short of a 12 month extension? I am hoping not to stay more than 4 months but you never know.

I will arrive on a 30 day arrival visa and plan to go to Vientiene when that expires.

Any cheap hotels in Vientiene?

Why are photos needed?

For the Laos Visa application form.

AHSO.

I did all this before but I had a non multi-entry visa and had to apply for a non immigrant visa.

But does it ??

Why does development (economic progress to many) have to break the social order or damage the society ?? Why cant the poorest also benefit from the development perhaps even to a greater degree than the richest ?? You could argue that it hasnt happened in Hawaii it doesnt happen in many developing islands.

I admit rising population density and transition from local to transient populations leads to higher crime, but is that the fault of a new road or carrefore ?? I dont see that as a direct connection, more a related one. I also think theres some real cultural issues (but will probably get accused of Thai bashing, which isnt my intent) in the money = status and 'if you have money you can do no wrong' (thai saying in case that isnt obvious) so that the pursuit of money even through questionable ends is more acceptable.

While I think this is something thats made especially visible by the imbalances in finance that we as westerners are creating here in this island, its also something that goes much deeper, Thailand is changing from a rural agrarian (near feudal) society, one thats key binding elements of status were strongly linked to boon khun / nam jai.. With responsibility generosity, obligation and favour/debt being markers of 'social status' (if social analysis like Thailand Fever, A Geography of Thought, etc is to be believed) but while that works in collectivist non transient communities, for whom these bonds of social generosity are repaid and known about over decades, this social system doesnt work in larger urban environments or transient communities. I would say this is why 'westernisation' or modernisation and the associated culture of independence is a much harder transition for Thailand than it is with many other societies.

Anyway wildly off topic concerning the building of a small road.

TIT

Why are photos needed?

His meaning of "non" seems to be "non immigrant visa" as friends and family is Hull talk for that visa. So non immigrant multi O visa.

OK. No need to go to Vientiane.

You said you had a multi entry visa - as long as it is valid you only have to cross into another country and return for a new 90 day stamp.

I see NON Multi.

Well its a case of services too.. Phuket is popular and hordes keep arriving.

For me the addition of carreforre and the readily available imports it provides was a huge boost, while I am sure it changes the charm, its also changed the lives of residents. Development for me is not a dirty word even if it does change the island.

For me far more important is the culture of greed, rising crime, rising divisions between haves and have nots.. I see the social impact as far higher a price then the ecological scenic one.

It all comes in the same package.

Normal photos for visa to Laos. Visa cost to Laos is about 1000 baht but varies by nationality/currency. There is no requirement to go to Vientiane.

No requirement to go to Vientiene? Do you pay someone to make the run for you? Or do you mean you Vientiene is not the only place.

No visa for a Thai National. It is very easy for them to get in, and free. I am not sure about motorbikes but cars can be taken in but I do not know the procedure.

Agree the feed into Haasip Pee and Nanai (Nanai Lake !!) will be a mess but really.. Theres no fixing that its the result of organic growth rather then planned growth.

I know some will shudder at the idea of any of the island getting more developed but the increasing traffic density demands something. Between massive 6 lane highways or smaller capillary roads I am all for the latter. In fact Kathu Water fall to Kalim / Kamala is the next ideal one. Would help the Bang Tao / Laguna / Kamala to Phuket town and central a lot. But this Patong Chalong one is the most obvious and needed.

I already stopped going there because of the development. I think the local officials will not be happy until it is a mini Singapore.

Three Tescos on a resort island, not to mention Big C et al. HAH.

It can be done in English but reading and understanding are 2 different things. Something gets lost in the translation.

I think it helps if you have been around Thais for a while and learn how they think. Which is nothing like the way we think.

Good Luck. All I ever got from them on the website is to buy more insurance that I didn't want. Try calling them. If you get through you will be passed around a lot.

What kind of gawd awful outrageous prices are they wanting for these sticks?

I reckon I'm the only person in Thailand (and possibly anywhere else too!) who's had a girl who works in a bar go to the ATM take money out of HER account and put it in MY pocket!

Noooooo

I reckon I am the only person in Thailand to borrow 350,000 from a bar girl. (I did pay it back however)

And she must be the only bar girl in Thailand with ฿350,000.

I can only see you personal photo.

Open "My controls"

Forgive my ignorance.

Office girls with decent jobs or Univ grads are generally not interested in a Farang.

Sweeping generalisation. Come on put a little more into a2396.

Definitley not true. My Thai niece (from a previous marriage) is a college graduate and married to a Farang. My wife is married to me (Farang) and she is a supervisor at a 5 star resort. Many of her friends and colleagues want her to find Farang boyfriends for them.

Maybe if you live in BKK or the tourist resorts a different story. Where I live in Issan, I will stand by my statement. For starters most women here, including univ grads, speak little or no English. If the are of marriageable age (under 30) they are not going to "ruin" their reputation by getting cozy with some Farang. Many will talk about wanting a Farang BF, but really do nothing to accomplish such. Such talk just sounds good in front of another Farang. The exceptions to this are those women who need money and in such cases they are not interested in being a GF, only interested in marriage (soon) with a hefty sin sod.

I stand by my statement. My wife is from Nong Bua. Check the dating website advertised on this forum.

It is on my profile page.

Office girls with decent jobs or Univ grads are generally not interested in a Farang.

Sweeping generalisation. Come on put a little more into a2396.

Definitley not true. My Thai niece (from a previous marriage) is a college graduate and married to a Farang. My wife is married to me (Farang) and she is a supervisor at a 5 star resort. Many of her friends and colleagues want her to find Farang boyfriends for them.

Well, I didn't follow most of that. My wife keeps a large amount of cash in our account. The only thing she spends more money on than I would wish is the temple but I ain't gonna touch that.

Her family tells her to not spend so much of my money, even though it is something I wanted. (i.e. :a carport for our pickup). She has all but demanded that I allow her to work so she can help me save money for our house. (this is choice, given the amount of money she makes). I have finally relented and she will be going back to work at her 5 star resort job next month.

Who says romance is dead?

I'm a Leo man myself. With ice. It's the only water I get.

There is a departure fee at all airports. Most of them have been incorporated into the ticketing fees. Bangkok got screwed up because the body that makes these decisions are as unprofessional as most are in Thailand. Now it has been corrected.

Sor Por Kor land comes under the jurisdiction of the Forestry Department as opposed to the Land Department. It is a true title deed and is fully surveyed and pegged. Sor Por Kor can not be bought, sold or rented but it can be given up and transferred to a new owner. This is done through the village headman. The previous owner signs a paper saying that they are giving up the Sor Por Kor and for a price (very small) the improvements on the property are being transferred to the new owner or new user of the land. They are, in effect, giving you the land for the price of the improvements. In many cases the land paper simply changes hands with the nod of the headman and remains in the name of the previous owner. A new Sor Por Kor can be issued in a new owner's name and the means for this vary between provinces and the price varies.

Sor Por Kor land can be developed and you can build a house on it. You would have a hard time building a housing development or a hotel but I have seen many small resorts on Sor Por Kor. You can also get a small mortgage from the Agricultural Bank for agricultural purposes. Sor Por Kor land is not necessarily agriculture land but the use is usually limited to agriculture or agriculture related. Sor Por Kor land was originally suppose to be forest land that was degraded but many people without land titles applied for this paper thinking that it would be changed over to a Chanote after a certain number of years. A lot of land that did not qualify as Sor Por Kor was issued Sor Por Kor paper.

The common misconception is that this land belongs to the government and that they might take it back at some time. The other common misconception is that this land can not change hands, thus the referral to not buying, selling or rental of the property.

Foreigners are afraid of Sor Por Kor, Thais are not. Sor Por Kor land is becoming more valuable as the price of land with a Chanote or NS3 becomes exorbitant.

The title can be converted to Chanote but this involves giving up the Sor Por Kor land deed to the Forestry Department and then applying for a new Chanote or NS3 be issued from the Land Department. A double whammy, timely and expensive.

A big problem with Sor Por Kor is that if you wanted to sell/transfer it to a new user it is difficult and takes time.

You should have paperwork showing that the owner of the land gave it up and the village headman had given his consent and you should not have the problem with a long lost relative coming to look for their inheritance.

There have been cases where a "sale" of the land was ruled not legal and the land returned to the original owner or their direct (close, not long lost) descendants. You can not buy Sor Por Kor. Getting a new Sor Por Kor in your wife's name would be a good idea and the latest quote in CM has been as high as 900,000 Baht from an attorney to 100,000 Baht from a guy in the local village that facilitates land transfers.

The Sor Por Kor is a true land title deed managed by the Forestry Department that is simply stamped on the back that it can not be sold, transferred or rented, except that it can be passed on to direct siblings.

I believe that the government of Thailand will have a windfall of land transfers and fees and a huge injection to their economy when they decide to stamp the back that it is OK to sell. No one knows or can speculate when this will happen. The law is clear on only one thing and that is that the law is not clear. Don't forget the grease. Always helps. And remember that foreigners might be subject to discrimination, particularly with land that was suppose to be for the landless peasants.

Thanks for the replies. It sets better with me now.

My wife is a sharp one. I think thins will be good.

Amalgam should be replaced with composite filling after about ten years. Standard procedure in Eu OUTSIDE Britain and Russia.

Had it done in a small but modern dental clinic in Khon Kaen 2years ago

250 baht per tooth.

If you want whiter teeth, dont go for the whitening stuff, have veneer fitted. Should be about 6.000 baht per tooth.

And yeas,it does make "old" guys look better, and it did give my self confidence a real boost.

Gee and I thought 300 baht was good. Now I feel like I go ripped off.

Everything I read says that this land SPG 4-01 is cannot be sold and can only be transferred by inheritance. In addition can only be used for agricultural purposes.

My Thai wife says they buy and sell it all the time and can build on it also. Not only does she say it but they have done it.

She says the land can be converted to a chanote.

Any thoughts?

I'm also a Canadian w/ Thai husband living in Bkk.

There are fewer requirements for the 1-yr extension if you're applying on the basis of a Thai husband. Prior to the expiration of your first 90 days in Thailand (4 weeks before) you should go to immigration (in Thailand) and apply for the extension. You need the following documents:

1. The application form

2. Original and copy of your passport

3. 4x6 cm photo (although they now take your photo at the office, too)

4. Processing fee of 1900 baht

5. Original and copy of all "important" documents relative to your marriage (e.g. original marriage certificate, Thai translation / certification)

6. Copy of your husband's house registry and Thai ID card

7. Kids' birth certificates (if applicable)

8. Map to your current residence in Thailand, and photos of you and your husband "proving" that you're a happily married couple

There will also be an "interview" with both of you when you apply.

As long as you initiate this process before your 90 days expire, you oughtn't need to leave Thailand.

The work permit is another beast entirely (and not related to Immigration) but you can get a work permit while in Thailand on a Non-O "husband" visa.

Finally, both Thailand and Canada permit holding multiple passports, so should either of you consider dual citizenship, the legality oughtn't be a problem. Although to apply for Thai citizenship, you have to first live here for 5 consecutive years, be a good citizen, speak Thai, and hold your breath while your application gets processed for 2-3 years....

Fewer requirements than what? Applying if the spouse is the wife?