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37 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:The impeachment move against Trump by the the Dems is infantile.
You and your lot are the last ones who should be complaining about anyone being infantile.
37 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:It will achieve nothing other than to sew even deeper divisions within the US
You and your lot are the last ones who should be complaining about dividing the country.
37 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:and to enrage further those who have been economically disadvantaged in recent years.
You and your lot are the last ones who should be complaining about enraging the “economically disadvantaged”.
37 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:Shame on you Pelosi and your grovelling sycophants.
You and your lot are the only ones who need to be ashamed.
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1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:
Get rid of the hate speech and misinformation from the right, and the left will accordingly back down. Easy.
I haven’t seen any widespread misinformation by the left. And certainly not that “we are living on a flat earth controlled by Hugo Chavez and a group of aliens eating little children” gaga-doodoo.
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Too little, too late, but better late than never.
Time to hold these platform liable for illegal contents, and to make harmful content illegal.
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37 minutes ago, vogie said:I can discuss but I don't take questions from the audience
Have you considered a Twitter account?
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1 minute ago, vogie said:
Not to put too finer point on it, the remainers have gone from 'fishing doesn't matter' to 'fishing is now our Holy Grail.'
I haven’t seen that. Any examples?
1 minute ago, vogie said:Yesterday was Ham Sandwich day, tomorrow 'who knows.'
Do you expect the world to stop going on, or just people here stop talking about it?
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2 hours ago, Opl said:
And the result is Millions of Trump followers turned into parrots to spread his lies.
Parrots? Watch some videos of that Capitol mob. It’s like the Walking Dead. Like they’ve opened a nuthouse. Zombies from a parallel reality hunting the aliens in their head on auto-pilot. Disturbing.
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2 minutes ago, vogie said:Prior to the UK getting a deal with the EU remainers were stating that fishing is not worth the rod that line is connected to. They told us in no uncertain terms that fishing only accounted for 0.05% of our GDP and wasn't worth going down the route of 'no deal,'
Which is true. Didn’t anyone say differently?
2 minutes ago, vogie said:but hey presto, now we have attained this good deal from the EU
Good for the EU you mean ????
2 minutes ago, vogie said:fishing has become the pinnacle of all the remainers arguements
How so? And for what argument exactly?
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4 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:
Not sure better late than never is OK. Without facebook allowing these nuts to spew their conspiracy theories and propaganda, we might not have had domestic terrorists break into the capitol. Or, might not have had as many deaths from covid as the BS stuff about it being like the flu, masks don't work, blah, blah, blah, would have been banned.
Facebook is totally to blame for a lot of this.
Agree, that’s why I wrote “better late than never” which implies that “earlier” would have been better.
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13 minutes ago, Sujo said:Youtube has now banned trump. Good job.
And Facebook is deleting everything that has “stoptheblah” in it. Better late than never.
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16 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:
I miss the pre-covid days when the worse thing you brought back to the ship was gonorrhea.
Not sure about that...
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7 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:
a lot of participants in this thread are not interested in freedom of speech
I’m counting you and the other guy who seem to advocate violating Twitter’s freedom of speech to give the rogue Fuhrer a propaganda tool. That’s hardly “a lot”.
7 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:, and don't have a problem with censorship ????
At least most participants have understood what censorship is and what not. Too bad you aren’t one of them.
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8 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:Please tell me how Twitter’s first Amendment rights have been violated, come on, tell me ?
They haven’t been, fortunately. But you seemed to criticize that Twitter has the right (its first amendment rights) to refuse to publish what the government wants it to publish.
QuoteThe irony that is devastatingly lost on you, is that Twitter has denied freedom of speech to somebody, albeit, an extremely loose cannon, that they (Twitter) retain all publishing rights and censorship privileges over .
Twitter cannot exercise censorship, because Twitter is a private company. Twitter also has not denied anyone freedom of speech, because freedom of speech is not the right that every Tom, Dick and Harry needs to publish whatever nonsense you want him to publish. Freedom of speech means Twitter as a private company has the right to have its own opinion, and it cannot be dictated anyone else’s opinion. Otherwise Fox News would have to publish my opinion piece on Trump and his Neanderthals, and you would have to let me into your living room to declare my opinion about your wife.
QuoteYou have obviously never read, or at least understood, the first amendment, so for your edification, here is it in brevity
It seems you are the one who has never read, or at least understood it. See my explanation above.
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On 1/11/2021 at 11:50 AM, mommysboy said:
Don't forget UK was prepared to do a free trade deal to avoid this red tape, but the EU didn't want that!
My neighbor also wanted to have more salary but his boss didn’t that. Now he’s without a job and hates his ex-boss. Duh.
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1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:I am as anti-Trump as anyone else that has the ability to dress themselves unaided. However, for me, there is a much, much bigger issue at stake here, because I am also anti-censorship and vehemently pro freedom of speech.
1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:I am anti-Trump, but also anti-dictatorial censorship.
yet you seem to be ok with Twitter’s first amendment rights being violated by dictating them what they should publish. You seem to wish for Chinese conditions in which media is supposed to shut up and publish the propaganda the Fuhrer on top wants it to publish, no matter how big the lies.
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9 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:
Indeed, this is the draw of most online forum nonsense. The lack of accountability, or at least perception of it.
Exactly. Scream “bomb” in an airport and you will get punished. The guy next to you who tries to stop you from doing it or who tips off the police will not be blamed for violating your free speech rights. Do it online and some people think those rules shouldn’t apply.
Share kiddy porn with your neighbor and you will get punished. They guy who tries to stop you from doing it or who tips off the police will not be blamed for violating your free speech rights. Do it online and some people think those rules shouldn’t apply.
Put posters up in your neighborhood with a mugshot of your neighbors accusing him of being a kiddy fiddler and you will get punished for defamation. Your wife who rips off the posters will not be blamed for violating your free speech rights. But do it online and some people think those rules shouldn’t apply.
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21 minutes ago, Virt said:
Turn it around and ask yourself if this chaos would have started in the first place, if we didn't have social media.
I did, and it didn’t answer the question whether we had freedom of speech before Twitter.
It did answer the question whether it was right (albeit too late) to ban Trump though.
21 minutes ago, Virt said:At times i miss the days without cellphones or internet fora/platforms.
The days of Usenet and first discussion forums was quite constructive. I guess we need laws holding the platforms liable for harmful content they don’t delete. It’s not acceptable that every small website owner can be prosecuted if he doesn’t swiftly moderate what users post in his forum, whereas Facebook & Co. seem to get a free pass.
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23 minutes ago, mikebike said:
A simple question for you:
How did you exercise your free speach prior to social media?
I’ve asked this question two times. Guess why he’s not answering it?
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12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:
If what you say was correct, then restaurants could simply hang signs that say "no coloreds, no Asians" and it would be OK.Then they could be prosecuted for violating the laws.
QuoteNot to mention the simple fact that the "rules" are applied in a capricious and vindictive manner, generally based on political viewpoint rather than on actual behavior.
Committing a crime is not a political viewpoint. Racism also isn’t a political viewpoint. Trump wasn’t banned for tweeting he supports tax breaks.
QuoteIt is a sign of the adage that conservatives may disagree with you but don't think you are evil. Leftists think you ARE evil if you disagree with them. Therefore, any measure to silence you is justified.
Whatever floats your boat in your small rightist world.
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31 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:
that wasn't his point, at this stage, I don't think you can get it, so you are going in circle here ????
Now you’re the one trolling ????
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3 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:
not sure in which country you are, or maybe you are ignoring the news, but Merkel, and a few other EU leaders are not happy with Twitter shutdown of Trump
political commentaries on TV, opposition leaders (including leftists) are questioning Twitter and digital media future roles over Trump account banning
Yeah, but where’s the “media uproar”?
3 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:I think Twitter actions will eventually backfire, above all in the EU, where GAFA roles are being seriously questioned over the last few months
Think GDPR++
No, think Digital Services Act: “A core concern is the trade and exchange of illegal goods, services and content online. Online services are also being misused by manipulative algorithmic systems to amplify the spread of disinformation and for other harmful purposes.” (https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/digital-services-act-package)
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Just now, GrandPapillon said:
now you are being ridiculous and trolling ????
I’m afraid that was his point. But maybe he should answer what his point was instead of you? ????
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3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:Suppose that Twitter wanted to ban Joe Biden, or Barack Obama, for whatever whimsical reason- or no reason at all? The shoe would surely pinch in that case.
Joe Biden and Barack Obama behave like decent people, so you could as well start your argument with “suppose we were living on a flat earth”.
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3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:
If those were the standards applied to all, Twitter would be a barren wasteland with the electronic equivalent of tumbleweeds blowing through the ether.
So your point is that criminals and rule breakers should get a free pass based on the fact that others got away with it too? Would that apply to all types of criminals or only when it suits your agenda?
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1 minute ago, GrandPapillon said:there is already a media uproar about Trump account shutdown, maybe not in the US, but here in Europe
As a European, I can tell you there’s as much “media uproar” as there was evidence for widespread voter fraud in the US election.
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House impeaches Trump after U.S. Capitol siege; his fate in Senate hands
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It’s naive to believe the Republicans would ever convict Trump. They not only don’t care; they’re not “spineless” or “fear”—they love it. It’s exactly what they and their party are: totalitarians and fascists(*).
According to historians who attend these and other protests, it wasn’t just freaks storming the Capitol, but everyday-Republicans and even GOP politicians.
They’ve always been the party of minority rule based on voter suppression. They filled the courts with their henchmen, all the way up to the Supreme Court. Almost none of them has ever spoken up against Trump, not even after his attempted coup. In fact, only a few days after the failed coup, Graham travels with him to the Mexican border; some refuse to go through the new metal detectors; only 10 vote for impeachment; and one will even be filing articles of impeachment against Joe Biden once he’s taken office.
Make no mistake, that soft distancing from Trump that you’re seeing now is pure damage control. Frankenstein’s monster, the useful orange idiot, got out of control. But that doesn’t change the fact that he was always Mitch’s baby
that he groomed to bring the party closer to dictatorial power under the disguise of “American democracy”.
They will never convict him. They want him to run again 2024 to try another time to establish a Republican Reich.
(*) not referring to WWII but to the political system