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1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Being a member of the E.U. gave every European citizen the right to live and work in the UK , they were E.U rules, not the UKs rules 

How did the EU force their rules onto the UK without the UK agreeing to it? And didn’t that EU include the UK, so wasn’t it the UK itself who forced its own rules onto itself? 

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

expats  are dissatisfied with their local career opportunities

I’m wondering what career opportunities people expect who don’t speak the local language and whose salary requirements probably are well above those of locals.  

1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said:

Huge amount for the hotel owners, probably affluent already, and probably paid a bung for the privilege of being an ASQ hotel.

21 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

wondering how much of that 1.2 billion  baht is/was in the government cronies pockets...

What I’ve heard from people working in the hotel industry, the government takes up to 40%. In addition to that, some hotels simply don’t wanna take the operational hassle and/or have their regular business being affected by it. 

20 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's like accusing someone of murder because they have a knife in their pocket. If the EU doesn't try to cut off NI from the UK that knife will stay in the pocket.

Too bad you’re not even allowed to carry a knife in your pocket, and no one is accusing you of murder but of carrying a knife that you’re not allowed to carry. 

15 minutes ago, japanese said:

But anyone thinking this is over has not been paying attention to the big picture.  A little too much confirmation bias perhaps.

No confirmation bias; it’s called being realistic. No Supreme Court will declare a whole election invalid and disenfranchise millions of voters. That is what happens when people watch too much Fox News and read too much Qanon nonsense: They lose their sanity and common sense and consider even the most ridiculous fantasy products a realistic possibility. Spend just two minutes on some of Trump’s followers Twitter accounts and you feel like you’re listening to a group of lunatics in a mental institution.

1 hour ago, Tofer said:

 

So what. We were part of the EU when they were established, so they are just as much ours.

I don’t think anyone is claiming a copyright on those deals. I also think it’s the sensible thing to do for the UK to roll-over those existing deals first and then negotiate something more tailored later (as long as they can easily be rolled over and re-negotiated later). 
 

It’s just a bit amusing when Brexiteers celebrate these deals as huge successes when they’re merely an operational workaround and an admission of the fact that the EU actually provided some good benefits and did a lot of things right. 

3 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Leading means to be at the front, In front of everyone else , the best, supreme 

You mean the opposite of chilling in front of the TV with a burger in one hand and playing Twitter using the other hand while a pandemic is raging and people die? 

9 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Hiring family members is not swamp like.  

There’s even a word for it: It’s called Nepotism. 

50 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I wonder if she reported them to the police or the FBI?

To neither one, as she feared that those deep state agencies would just eat her reports in the basement of a pizza shop where they’re selling children to create chemtrails in the sky. 

35 minutes ago, vogie said:

No point in voting if you don't vote the way they want you to. 

 

France has said "Paris has signalled the EU might move ahead with the recovery fund without Poland and Hungary under an EU "enhanced cooperation" law that allows a group of at least nine countries to pursue a joint project if others object."

 

So basically not all 27 nations are listened to when voting, only the ones that vote the right way.

I know this might be disappointing for someone who wished that his vote for Brexit also would give him a say on future trade relationships, but you’ll have to accept that a vote you’re being granted for a specific matter doesn’t give you a say in all other matters, especially not those that aren’t your business. Hungary and Poland had a vote on the budget and a Corona relief package, and they decided they don’t want it, so now countries are taking their money that Hungary and Poland didn’t want elsewhere and our two wannabe fascist states can get their Corona relief from elsewhere. Duh. ???? 

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Which still doesn't alter the fact that for 4 years you have been preaching to us that the EU is democratic and needs all 27 nations to vote something through

Yes, I’ve been educating you. 
 

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

now it seems only Germany and France will do.

Do you actually read a topic before making a fool of yourself? Two countries have vetoed the budget. Even the headline says it:

EU leaders deadlocked over recovery plan after Hungary, Poland veto

7 minutes ago, vogie said:

It may surprise you but not one golf club I've ever been a member of has ever changed it to another sport.

Unfortunately your personal experience with clubs is as irrelevant as the fact that I’ve never seen a mole rat. 

2 hours ago, vogie said:

And here is where your analogy falls flat on its face. We joined a golf club and over a period of time this so called club began surruptiously changing into a rugby club, but hey the comittee wasn't happy with that arrangement, they also wanted some members to pay for other members fees. Now if somebody had explained that some members pay and others get to play for free, you wouldn't have believed have them now would you and you certainly wouldn't have joined this 'democratic' club would you.

It might surprise you, but yes, clubs sometimes change. 

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And then one brave member decided to say enough is enough, I shall open my own golf club just a mile down the road, and what do you think that happened when he applied for planning permission,

A “planning permission”? Again, you’re failing at analogies. 
 

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that's correct, the nasty golf club said you can open your own golf club, but you cannot take in any new members without us screening them first, you can only open from 12 noon to 1500 hrs and we have the right to all your land to take as many lost golf balls as we find, you will be allowed 2 lost balls a day, and you must follow our golf club rules.

It’s called freedom of contract. One of the achievements of our western democracies. 
 

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Ring a bell?

Yes. You’re in the wrong thread. 

3 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

And in this case, that someone is France and Germany. 

They’re not your team, so by “blaming” them you’re just admitting defeat. 
 

A bit like Samsung blaming Apple for not getting more sales.