WinnieTheKhwai

the PPP was banned under the provision of article 237 of the 2007 constitution , that constitution was established by other cheaters , who came to power through a coup . So its cheaters with guns versus cheaters without .

And you know full well that switching governement from one party to its oposition WITHOUT consulting the people is totally undemocratic .

Please google: 2007 Constitution Referendum Thailand! 60% of the people showed up and the majority voted YES!

You seem to forget that campaning for a "NO" , under that military governement was not possible . Which explain the relatively low attendance . So do you think democratic ?

Yup... Some people seem to have very short memories.

And, apparently some forgot how this was forced down, when the junta leader actually said 'you can either vote for this consitution, or you will get one I hold behind my back'.

Super Thai Democracy in Action !

However to say he is "innocent" is patently false, if the govt tells you to move out of a area you are illegally rioting in,

Shame on YOU!

The poll results are absolutely hilarious..!! But also very informative on the people on this forum, with some exceptions noted of course.

Updates from UDD are probably unreliable at best.

Right, so not unlike The Nation et al. It's good to know the source, so we can correlate it with reports from the other side. Whatever matches up is probably true.

Try spelling his name right first, Blackman.

Thanks, good point. I think you selected the right option though, the poll is more about downtown-urban vs 'out there' than it is about Farang oriented or not. Chang Puek is urban, downtown. (Especially when compared to where I live. )

Roses are Red

Violents are Blue

Some Poems Rhyme

And others don't.

"...'downtown' is the area well within the Superhighway / Aom Muang Road."

I have no idea where that is.

http://Maps.google.com It's what you might call the inner ring, though it's of course not a complete ring.

Now that I live in a little house on the rice paddy, south of Sankampheng, I drive west for maybe 9 km before crossing the river. That means I end up in Santitam, Chang Puak, Neimenheiman, Tuskers, Huay Kaew, etc.

Cool; so again for the purposes of this poll: you live out of town, but when driving west and ending up at any of the places you mention, you're then downtown.

sticklee, tell us about your house. Single level, or multiple? Crawl space underneath or a pad poured on soil? Large attic or small? Lots of windows or few and if few, are they huge or normal? Ten foot ceilings or less than that? What is the composition of your roof?

Thanks everyone for input. My house is a small one storey 2 bedroom. Poured concrete slab, 10' celings. Well treed with large trees on south and west side so I have lots of shade. Standard windows, 2 per side of house with sliding entry at front. Roof is terra cotta tile type. Large porch (overhang) at front entry and single car carport at front. Front of house faces south. Currently have 1-9,000 BTU AC in room at ne corner. The interior heats up fairly quickly and cools down slowly. All fairly typical given the current temperatures. I was hoping to slow down the heating up with insulation and with better air circulation through the attic, clear out the hot air more efficiently after sundown....Does that seem sound thinking?

I'll throw my two baht out there. You don't have any dead air under the house so that idea is out. Too bad on that.

The next thing I see, based on your description, is the ceilings. I had the same problems that you speak of. However, the attic WAS vented, passive, on both ends of the house. The kitchen was the hottest room, even though we didn't cook. The refrigerator was causing that room to get warmer than the rest of the house. That motor, compressor and the cycle do produce a lot of heat outside of the refrigerator. So, I cut a large rectangular hole in the ceiling, built an nice frame with screen and made some decorative louvers to hide the screen. Instant success when I cut the hole. I was standing on a ladder, sweating bad and the instant I removed the large piece that I had cut out, the breeze began to cool me down. The hot air rising caused a great draft and that continued until the hot season was over. So, you can use convection to overcome a lot of your problem.

The ends of the attic do need to be vented. The hot air needs to be able to get out and rise. That is a cheap project.

Once the kitchen problem was solved, I noticed that the rest of the house really wasn't much cooler. I also noticed that with the 10 foot ceilings, the hot air at the tops of the rooms could not get out of the rooms because the tops of the walls were solid all of the way down to the tops of the room doors. So, any heat trapped up there, stayed trapped. So, same thing. I vented each room into the attic and went through the same discovery each time. That hot air just needs a place to go. Up and out. I didn't want to vent each room. It would have been better to cut a vent at the tops of the walls so they could vent from room to room and then into the kitchen. But the interior walls were six inch concrete. It was just easier to vent them all into the attic.

So, try removing one ceiling panel in a hot room in your house and see how much draft you get. That alone may get the temps down enough to make you happy.

This all very nice, but will NOT work in combination with air conditioning; those nice vents would be like leaving all doors and windows open. So if you can go without aircon in 40 degree heat: great. If not, then insulation is better than venting.

Suan Prung Hospital is Da PLACE!!!

I'm SO overthere.

Straight people tend to be more anxious about it though.

( BTW, can you edit out the phone number a couple posts above? )

it covered most of N. America in over 6" of ash

for real?

Really really. See Wikipedia:

The last full-scale eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano, the Lava Creek eruption which happened nearly 640,000 years ago^[17], ejected approximately 240 cubic miles (1,000 km³) of rock and dust into the sky.^[9]

It was an awesome sight.

Living in London, I can say that at ground level there is no perceptible evidence of ash at all. Sky is clear, sunsets normal and cars no dirtier.

I think this whole thing will turn out to be a huge false alarm. This is nothing at all like the 1982 BA event that caused a plane to lose all power.

They should be letting planes fly through it, at least via the clearest altitudes and routes, and collect data from them. If they need to vary the etops rules, the so be it. There are loads of potential emergency landing places.

The scientists involved will soon have had their 15 mins of fame and things will be back to normal, but not until millions of people have been inconvenienced and 100s of millions of £s lost by airlines etc.

Jet planes cannot fly through the ash as the heat of the engines turns the ash into a glass coating causing the engine to fail.

Jets could fly lower to avoid the ash clouds but lower altitude means higher engine temp which means higher fuel consumption to such an extent that a plane cannot carry enough fuel to complete ongoing flight.

Right, but only for the limited area where the problem exists; so if this persists then ways will be found to work around it, such as flying lower for part of the way, which (worst case) may mean an additional refueling stop. Though realistically, most flights aren't at the very limit of an aircraft's range limit, so they can accommodate by adding some more fuel. Still, if additional refueling stops are needed then that of course cuts into the overall capacity, but the larger point being that ways WILL be found to work around it.

When regular weather service resumes in Western Europe (low pressure areas drifting in from the Atlantic) the problem will move elsewhere anyway.

Looks like some rain may be on its way from the North. Anyone in Mae Rim who can commnt?

Tinting windows will also make a huge difference if you use good film. Each square metre of sunlight coming in is approximately 1KW of heat

Ideally you'd want to keep sunlight off any windows, period. So never mind about film. This can be achieved with large roof overhangs, trees, etc.

Seeing that the OP already runs an airconditioner, probably he'd get the most mileage out of insulating the space that is airconditioned through insulating the (hanging) ceiling from the top, make sure sunlight doesn't enter and ideally stays off the walls, etc.

Venting the roof is never bad of course, but not a magic bullet solution especially not this season.

Insulation helps somewhat (slows down the warming up), but with tempearatures of 40 degrees and the sun continuously on the roof, it's still going to heat up. Venting works somewhat in the afternoon in the wet season when the winds pick up, but again, without much wind it doesn't help. And, even if there was wind it would still suck in 40 degree air.

Tall trees in the right places to block the sun work well, though the sun is high this time of year.

Is this a single floor 'bungalow' type home?

Floral Condominium?

Not cheap of course, starts around 25-30K I think, which is slightly on the ludicrous side of insane when it comes to Chiang Mai accommodation prices. But, it's the right area.

As for the purpose of this poll, I was wondering how many people who live in the Chiang Mai area are still very much 'married' to the town area, and how many are happy to live in the suburbs, villages and developments without the urge to go downtown all the time.

I used to go into town as a matter of course every single day, but find that on many days I don't nowadays. A big part of that is that it's not really necessary anymore, with plenty food, shopping and entertainment options available that are definitely out of town.

For the purpose of this poll, 'downtown' is the area well within the Superhighway / Aom Muang Road. Just visiting a Big C, Carrefour, Makro or Tesco does not count. The Airport and Airport plaza also doesn't count.

So I mean pretty much the actual downtown area; the moat, Thapae, Chang Klan, University Area including Nimmanhaemin, Huay Kaew, Santitham, Suthep Road, etc.

I'm all for frequenting the local out of town places more! I do it only on occasion, and then only when with friends. (Which means very rarely indeed as I don't have too many friends. )

OP, can you get me an invite to the One-Dimensional Club? Sometimes it just all gets too much for me with all of life in 3D.

I gotta take a break, I read this as 3 foot mistresses..

Nice.

Dividing up the country will go over real well with the powers that be. Plus, as mentioned in the pearls thrown before you by Barry above, NOBODY wants this, not in the North East and not in the North. This is not a cultural or ethnic clash, it's merely about representation and mutual respect along class lines.

Dude, your understanding of Thai Airways pricing is wrong. Go to thaiair.com and look it up.