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16 minutes ago, pookiki said:

The embassies announced the cancellations of the letters in late October, 2018 and Thai authorities didn't address what had to be done in the absence of the letters until late December, 2018. Therefore, if 'leniency' is applied (as it should be) showing your deposits beginning in January, 2019.452721024_ImmigrationMemoForIncomeProof(ENG).pdf

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That's true and it also took me a month to open a BBL account after loads of faffing about, so mine began in February. Academic now that I've decided on the 400k in the bank method. Hopefully, they'll be happy with that, but you never know these days.

7 minutes ago, scotsman said:

 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/british-embassy-bangkok-to-stop-certification-of-income-letters    because the letters were stopped in Jan 2019 we had to put 65k or 45 k in every month starting from what date? Jan 2019 or the date of your last visa extension. I have to correct a mistake in my post that may have more bearing in this matter as I am very tired due to lack of sleep.  The date he pointed out in my Bangkok bank first 6 months statement in yellow was not 10.01.2018 it was 1.10.2018 October so I only put 37 k for that month but all the rest were 40k including Sep 2018 and one had 65k but in total I had 11 transfers of 40k not 12. 

Now if you count it from the police order on Jan 2019 I would have had 7 so with the grace period 11 or 7 I still should have got my extension passed over to Bangkok. 

sorry for the wrong date easy to miss when i have not slept in 3 days insomnia. 

Regards 

Scotsman  

Understandable that you're exhausted dealing with that lot. So it looks like they aren't showing any leniency with the monthly transfer method, on marriage extensions at least. What with the TM30 nonsense and now this, it's become a lottery whether or not you're going to get your extension no matter how much you try to attempt by the rules. Obvious to me that it's all about either forcing us to use the money in the bank method, or to use agents. Probably both.

14 minutes ago, spornb said:

So very true

 

In reality if you have not got a spare 400,000, for marriage and 800,000 for retirement extensions, you are substantially increasing the chances of hassle on renewal, and probably can not in reality afford to live here

 

I am married and choose to live here, and so have to accept their jealousy and unhappiness at us being here

 

This attitude by officials drives more to the illegal agents and benefits the officials colluding with them 

 

Keep smiling it is only once a year, if this were the greatest problem I have I would be a very lucky man, which in any case I am

Yes I'm doing the 400k in the bank method, although I'd prefer to do the 65k monthly for the retirement extension, Unfortunately, that got beggared up by my July Transferwise transfer to Bangkok Bank going via Kasikorn. Figured it'll be easier to do the marriage extension than a.rS.e about with Kbank. Next time, hopefully, I'll do the 800k in the bank method, if I'm still here.

1 hour ago, easydoor said:

Dr OP,

your posting is case of lot of confusing to some people.

First off all: where do you make the conclusion IO will not accept payments starting in January? You were not in this case and even did not ask for it. So that is a conclusion you just make by yourself based on NOTHING: guessing. With guesses the readers of this forum are not helped at all, just making them scared.

About your last month you were missing. What do you think is the most important month is this case? The first or the last month? If you just think a little logic: the LAST month !!! If you are are missing the last month it can means: the payments STOPPED. So also here the IO was complete right and you wre wrong and wrong thinking.

I keep myself busy for many years, on another forum, and see the same things passing by: because no right thinking, wrong interpretations, making own conclusions.... always knowing better: a lot of wrong information making people scared and confused.

"We went back to immigration at 2.30 pm and when we gave our documents to the young officer she was happy about it, but the boss lady looked at for a few min and said not enough you have to go to kasikorn bank and get the statement from them that it came from outside Thailand."

What he's saying is that his application should've been accepted with 11 months of international transfers under the leniency rules, without having to beggar about with Kasikorn. Therefore, if his application wasn't satisfactory, what chance does anyone stand with only six months of transfers?

It'd be helpful to hear if anyone has been shown leniency at Jomtien and how many international transfers they made before their extension.

Thanks for your very informative post. Few questions if you don't mind:

Did you have to take a witness?

How recent does the kor ror 2 have to be?

Did you sign all copies beforehand? (I saw a post a while back advising not to sign copies because they stamp them and you have to sign on the stamp AND in blue ink). It'll save time if I'm able to sign at home.

It's my turn in the mincer in a couple of weeks and I want to be as organised as possible, even though I know I'll be picked up on something.

Before anyone suggests asking someone in immigration, the last time I politely asked a perfectly pertinent question of an IO I got bawled at (because he didn't know, but didn't want to admit it). Instead of putting my fist in his face, I had no choice but to eat humble pie and leave. 

15 hours ago, scotsman said:

I know about the Kasikorn bank tranferwise problem with the code but as I said in my story it was my last one that had this transaction in July.  I had 11 more from the Bangkok bank one year statements that I got from my bank that highlighted all the 40 k transactions for her and the young officer also highlighted them in yellow so there was no need for the other form in my photo above.

Also having 11 transfers up to June I would have though that should have been enough to get this done, unless because it was my July transfer my last one and it has to be every month she wants me to show this one? 

If i was applying for my extension in July then probably this transfer from Kasikorn bank would not be a problem until next year as it would only count as the first transfer in that year that is my theory.   

I also had the tranferwise PDF receipt she was not interested in it just wanted one from Kasikorn yes i am luck we have one in pattaya. 

Regards 

Scotsman 

I feel that TI refusing TransferWise transfers to Bangkok Bank via Kasikorn is as important an issue as the TM30 fiasco. The TW PDF notice should be sufficient proof, as in most cases it only comes via another bank once or twice in the whole 12 months. I'm able to do the 400k in the bank method, which is fortunate because my July transfer came via Kasikorn, as did most TW users' transfers I gather. It's plain to see that TI are trying to drive people into the hands of agents, for obvious reasons.

a)   How many photos of wife and me are required in total?

b)   What's the minimum size per photo?

c)   How many to an A4 sheet?

d)   Can they be copied onto normal A4 paper, or do they have to be on photographic paper?

e)   Do I need to take a witness to immigration along with my wife?

f)   Do I sign photocopies in blue ink or shall I leave them unsigned?

When they make a house visit, how intrusive is it ie do they start opening cupboards, drawers etc? I have nothing to hide but I do value my privacy and although I realise the folly of it, I can see myself getting a bit pear-shaped if they go snooping amongst personal stuff.

I've done retirement extensions for the last 12 years and this will be my first marrage extension. What a flaming pallaver. So far, I have a file of paper about two inches thick! I haven't finished yet, still have to get the Kor Ror 2, Bank letter and copy of bank book and the photographs at home. If the objective is to drive us into the hands of agents, I must admit that, although I'm resisting it, the thought is very attractive. 

19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Feel free to leave.

Pillock!

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Exactly.  Lowering interest rates will hopefully discourage foreign money coming in, which should result in the weakening of the baht over time.  I'm constantly amazed that so many expats buy into the nonsense that the Thais are "manipulating" the THB to make it stronger.  It makes no sense....if one understands anything about international finance and basic economics. 

It depends where the elites in charge have their own money invested.

9 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

Everything is pointing to using an agent, sorry but that is true, you may as well get used to the idea because otherwise you won't get what you want.

The whole point in this whole "changing the rules" exercise was to force more people to use agents, which means more tea money. Even a mug could see that TI wouldn't kill the golden goose by trying to deter the use of agents. Only the rose coloured specs brigade would swallow that rubbish.

38 minutes ago, simon43 said:

 

 

 

The first time that I watched a French movie was when I stayed with my English wife in a French hotel.  I switched on the TV and there was a Canal+ French porn movie...

 

It did not put us to sleep ????

Yes that Canal+ is a bit naughty. I used to switch to it occasionally (by accident ???? ) when I lived in France.

Stupid, flowery language, uses ten words to the English one. Takes forever to say something, which sounds like the speaker is trying to clear his throat. Ever watched a French movie? Perfect for insomniacs, guaranteed to send you to sleep with all the yapping.

Thanks for that. I look forward to seeing a similar leniency report from Jomtien.

5 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

Obviously thought a Single Malt was similar to blended Scotch or Bourbon.....

I thought they were all 40% proof, or have I missed a subtle joke in your post?

8 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

 

A Canadian lumberjack....

Easily spotted: wears high heels, suspenders and a bra. Hangs around in bars ????

10 hours ago, Mickc said:

I said, the whole world. UK, USA and Australia just to name a few. And yes, their behaviour is 'right winged' 

Last Labour govt in Uk; the Obama administration in the US; the Swedish feminists; Merkel. Right-wing?

11 hours ago, Mickc said:

The whole world has become so right winged, it's just madness. No good will come from it. It will be like the 1930's and early 1940's again if we are not really careful. ????

It might counteract the last several years of left-wing lunacy. It's called reaction. 

2 hours ago, faraday said:

Been raining all night here in Udon; temperature is 24°C

The last few days here, just outside Pattaya, have been hot enough to boil a monkey's bum. Got the sprinkler working overtime. Hope we get a few drops.

I always carry a bag of doggy chews and a stick just in case. Seems to work ok as I haven't been bitten in 12 years either walking or biking. Had a few close calls mind.