Will27

Are you insane? You think he will live to a 100?

Well then you're comparing apples and oranges. I said for a single man.

Are you single?

Yep Had a mate from the UK who was loaded. Was 67 and still working in a highly paid job plus getting a service pension. Had a Thai wife in Thailand. He used to come for holidays twice a year and fly her over to England twice a year. Last time he was here a few years ago, I caught up with him and asked him why he didn't relocate to Thailand as he loved it here. "A few more years" he kept telling me. Caught Covid in Spain on a work trip a month later and died.

Why wont he survive? Because you wouldn't? Why did you tell him not to? At 60, a million dollars is more than enough to last if he's smart. Why shouldn't he enjoy his latter years in Thailand? Australia isn't great for 60 year old single men. You want him to wait until he's 70? "For the next 50 years"? You think he's going to live until he's 110?

I'm with ya Rip. Hopefully the Lions can get it done.

Yep And he'll be back with a 1000 word reply on why you're wrong, I'm wrong and pretty much everyone else is wrong. It's everyone else you now, he's fine.

He pretty much read somewhere that the ATO can prevent people from leaving Australia, and then put his own spin on it and tried to claim people with HECS debts were being stopped at the airport.

Don't move the goal posts when you're wrong. You posted, did you not "Links have already been posted about students with HECS debt not being allowed to leave Australia." When I asked for proof, as per usual you go off on a tangent about the ATO being able to stop people leaving the country. We know that and it wasn't the question. This link is from an Omdudman's report and pretty much stipulates what I've said. And before you crap on and say it's an old report, the same structures are till in place. Here's an excerpt ATO Debt Write Off Procedures 2.10. The ATO advised that writing off tax debt on the basis that it is uneconomical to pursue has traditionally been restricted to cases where there is considered to be little prospect of subsequent account activity, such as debts involving: Smaller amounts where an entity has ceased business and through various checks, the tax officer is satisfied that there are no assets to pursue and no egregious behaviour on the part of directors. Deceased taxpayers where there is no prospect of collection or it would be insensitive to do so. Long term, untraceable taxpayers. 2.11. Generally write-off activity has occurred on a case-by-case basis. However, at times the ATO has implemented bulk write-off processes to remove large numbers of debt cases in respect of which there is considered to be little possibility of collection. Such a bulk write-off process occurred in 2007–08, resulting in write-off of over 240,000 income tax debts as uneconomical to pursue. The ATO advised that this bulk write-off process is continuing. It mostly involves tax debts of less than $2,500, where the ATO considers that writing off these debts is the most appropriate and efficient action, but also the most effective in terms of outcomes for both the community and the taxpayer. Edit# A more recent article. https://www.pkf.com.au/insights/when-is-an-ato-debt-really-written-off/ The confusion arises as the Commissioner has a practice of not pursuing tax debts they consider are not economic to recover - a term they refer to as a “debt write-off”.

Doesn't have to be a new link. You said people have been prevented from leaving Australia with a HECS debt and now cannot show it. Bottom line is, you said people have been stopped leaving the country with a HECS debts and when challenged, cannot provide any proof. It's ok if you got it wrong, just admit it. As far as debt recovery, the ATO will have policy on what debts they will pursue. You can even see in the post by Giddyup, the ATO told him they weren't going to chase it, and that was $600.

The trouble was though, that after making your point, you just kept making it again and again. A bit like you're starting to do now.

Unless I've missed it, are there any links that have said people have been stopped leaving Australia because of a HECS debt as you posted? I keep telling you why. Debts are worked out on level and if it's economical or not to pursue them in most cases, not all.

I mentioned this earlier today. People think even under the current rules that staying in Thailand for years on end and not even going back for a visit that they will remain a resident because of a house or local address is pie in the sky stuff IMO.

It doesn't hurt to be aware of any proposed changes and have a plan B, but it's no use jumping off a building until such changes are implemented IMO.

The ATO aren't in the habit of issuing DPO's like candy. They're also not issued by a computer. There is no way in the world one would be issued for a $600 debt. Stopping someone from leaving Australia is not something the ATO does lightly. Do you have any links about people being actually prevented from leaving Australia because of a HECS debt? As I've told you many times before, a debt of that size ($600) would be uneconomical to chase and would be written off. You keep going on about what the ATO can do to recover a debt. Well almost anything. But again, as I've told you, the level of debt is considered before any enforcement action is taken.

Interesting. Based on the ATO calculator, I'd be surprised if 5% of expats are residents if they answer truthfully. Especially if they don't spend any time in Australia.

Do you make regular visits back to OZ? If not, you're probably like most expats on here, a non-resident.

Season 3 starts December 1st.

I'm hoping for the Lions as well Rip but will be hard for them at the Gee I think.

Have to disagree FJ. I thought the umpiring was poor, especially after halftime. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-collingwood-vs-gws-umpiring-free-kick-count-luke-hodge-comments-calls-them-pathetic/news-story/4bbe381f2a3c0a7f95ec278c66764b14

Most of his topics have no point. He's stuck in Australia and is as bored as <deleted>.

Belfer A bit of a slow burner but I'm enjoying it. Hard- coded subs TPB Couldn't find a trailer with subs. A Polish teacher moves to a provincial town and gets involved in investigating the brutal murder of a high school girl. He learns more and more about the mysteries of this murder, revealing corruption and fraud among local elites.

You're in Australia though aren't you?

I think he'd give you more than Tommy Mac Uncle Alex.