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I've cleaned things up so hopefully a sensible discussion can be had. Do us a favour please. When someone is posting things that are obviously against the rules, try not to engage them. Certainly don't quote them. That just ensures that your post goes in the trash if it quotes a post we've had to delete. Thank you. Resume your discussion. ????

One off topic post removed.

I was stating our rules, not inviting a debate. (Removed posts)

Just a little reminder for everyone: You have every right to question information given by scientists, doctors, health authorities, etc. You do not have the right (here anyways) to fill in gaps in knowledge or things you disagree with, with unevidenced hearsay, conspiracies, and other misinformation. Making *any* claims about medicine, or science in general, should reference credible evidence from an authoritative source. Not news pundits, politicians, celebrities, or other mouthpieces. If you want to prove something is false, challenge it with questions. This is how science works.

Getting weary of removing misinformation here. If you are making a claim about something science related, be prepared to back it up with evidence. Opinion blogs are not evidence. Something you heard at the pub or from a politician is not evidence. Evidence should be from a reliable source based on actual research that is peer reviewed. If you don't understand what that is, you should take a break from speaking authoritatively on scientific matters until you do.

In order for this thread to be actually helpful, I've removed a bunch of off topic personal bickering. I'm going to ask the participants nicely once to cut it out.

Removed some off topic personal attacks. Suggest both parties log off for a bit so we don't have to take further action.

Removed posts with medical misinformation.

Removed a few posts that violated our code of conduct re: medical misinformation, as well as otherwise good posts that quoted it.

One image of children in extremely poor taste was removed.

Removed one post that violated our community standards.

One post contravening our terms of service was removed. Derogatory comments about nationality serve no purpose here.

Some posts were removed for being off-topic and/or racist.

Several posts breaking our community standards or quoting them were removed. Please stop the personal attacks and comments on moderation. Use the report button if you see a serious violation. (Not just because you disagree with someone)

Several posts violating our community guidelines, and those quoting them have been removed. Please settle down, stop the personal attacks, and discuss the actual topic.

Some off topic posts removed.

Several posts contravening our community standards were removed. No need for personal attacks.

A post violating our community standards regarding misinformation was removed.

A post has been removed that violated our community standards regarding misinformation.

Some posts violating our community standards have been removed. Please dial back the personal attacks and keep in mind: You probably aren't going to change anyone's mind. Nothing anyone says here really matters, so let's not get all wound up over it.

Removed posts contravening our community standards. Please cease the personal attacks and focus on helping the OP.

A post contravening our community standards was removed. You can criticise the subject matter of a topic or post without attacking the author.

A post that violated community standards has been removed.

For now, we'll treat it as sharing info. If it happens again we'll know better. ????

Good to see you. I'd wondered not that long ago how things were going for you.