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5 hours ago, evadgib said:
Boris listed several excellent examples during his speech at Greenwich yesterday. The speech will presumably be available on YT.
HTH
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-in-greenwich-3-february-2020
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38 minutes ago, emptypockets said:Hard to believe that. Enoch was anti immigration for non white Christians or so I was led to believe.
I know reading + searching on Internet is extremely difficult for some British, but..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom just click on the [40]
^ How migrants helped make the NHS Archived 29 May 2014 at the Wayback Machine, The Guardian, 18 June 2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell
During the early 1960s, Powell was asked about the recruitment of immigrant workers for the NHS. He replied by saying "recruitment was in the hands of the hospital authorities, but this was something that happened of its own accord given that there was no bar upon entry and employment in the United Kingdom to those from the West Indies or anywhere else [in the Commonwealth or colonies]."[32] Powell did welcome immigrant nurses and doctors, under the condition that they were to be temporary workers training in the UK and would then return to their native countries as qualified doctors or nurses.[32] Shortly after becoming Minister of Health, Powell asked Rab Butler, then Home Secretary, if he could become appointed to the minister committee which checked on immigration and was about to be re-constituted.[32] Powell was worried about the strain by NHS immigrants and papers show that he wanted a stronger restriction on Commonwealth immigration than what was passed in 1961.[32]
Why you British do not know your own recent history ? ?
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17 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:
They will, because Japan have a Trade deal with the EU. In the trade agreement, tariffs on automobiles are set to zero. It pays off more for Japanese and European car manufacturers to produce large quantities at one location and to accept the higher transport costs. if small plants in continental europe are closed, it is not caused by Brexit. The plants in the UK are no longer profitable either, especially with additional tariff barriers. The UK market is simply too small to maintain a wide range of models and complementary services.
Teh brexiteers still live in the era before 1950, when a car manufacturer with an output of a 50-100.000 cars/year could prosper. Now it is over a million cars. And transport costs, by these very big ships… not so much...)
Nissan nearly collapsed, but thanks to Ghons and Renault it still exists. Several car factories ( Ford, GM/Opel) in Belgium were closed already, simply because of lack of economies of scale.
18 apr. 2017 - It was the heyday of Belgian car manufacturing, and the plant turned out ... Ford closed the plant with the loss of 6,000 jobs either at the factory …By some estimates, factories in Western and Eastern Europe are capable of producing seven million or eight million more cars and light trucks than the market can absorb. Many factories are operating at only 60 percent or less.
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3 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:
Exaggeration. In the EU, a maximum of 200,000 people (excluding the UK) are engaged in fishing. if you pull off inland fishing, offshore fishing, crustacean farming and aquaculture, there are less than 100,000 on the high seas.
Why did you not study first the numbers before you post C,rap numbers.
Ever seen any comment of a Brexiteer based on real figures, or any searching on internet ?
26 sep. 2019 - It includes details on the UK fleet, the number of fishermen, the quantity and value of UK landings, international trade, worldwide fishing and the ...5 dagen geleden - The fisheries industry in the EU employed about 180 000 people in ... fish landings and aquaculture production in the European Union (EU) .The processing industry counts approximately 3 700 companies. The mainstay of EU production is conserves and ready meals of fish, crustaceans and molluscs ...the EU, particularly in the connecting fish processing industry make UK ... Figure 1 shows, that value added in the fish sector is created by employing a set of ...18 dec. 2019 - There are some difficult issues to be tackled as the fishing industry ... Their tonnage and value far outweighs the more familiar white fish served in ... Although the UK is due to leave the European Union on 31 January, the deal ...-
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5 hours ago, talahtnut said:You chose Harlow! jeeze man, its an overspill town of London, which is Baghdad Central.
This is the unfortunate effect of uncontrolled immigration, a result of obeying EU edict.
We are leaving the EU, not the Europeans we love, especially your Citroen and Benz, my daily drives in the UK.
The EU has only to propose but nothing to say, only the EU council, existing of the heads of governments of the EU member states, so inclusive the PM of the U.K.
When the eastern European countries joined the EU, ONLY the UK opened immediately their borders.
For people from outside the EU there is not even one agreement about migrants, so all the British to blame for themselves ( with many thanks to the people in their "colonies" to fight and die for the British rulers ) .
Again, again, and again the British do not know their own history
16 nov. 2016 - In 2004 the Labour government allowed citizens of the 10 new EU states labour market access. ... and Ireland, to open its labour market to these new EU citizens immediately. ... Central and Eastern European immigration into the UK ... Europe lent the impression that Labour could not control the borders.18 sep. 2017 - By Jack Graham. On May 1st 2004, migrants from the 'Accession 8' countries of eastern Europe won the right to work in Britain. Denied access ...24 jun. 2012 - Tony Blair does not regret the decision to lift border controls for Eastern European immigrants, he said yesterday after Ed Miliband expressed ...18 mrt. 2019 - How many EU immigrants come to the UK, how many leave, and what ... the UK was one of three countries which opened its borders straight …Muslim mass immigration to Britain began after World War II, as a result of the destruction and labour shortages caused by the war.[37][38] Muslim migrants from former British colonies, predominantly India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh,[37] were recruited in large numbers by government and businesses to rebuild the country.[39] Large numbers of doctors recruited from India and Pakistan, encouraged by health minister Enoch Powell in the early 1960s, also played a key role in the establishment of the NHS health service.[40]-
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28 minutes ago, Monomial said:
The Nissan deal could be a very interesting example of a bigger trend. If they actually plan to move part of their production to the UK in order to avoid any new trade restrictions, that may seriously hurt the EU's negotiating position. Not only does it lower the incentive for the UK to negotiate a trade deal with the EU, but it also pulls jobs and investment out of the Eurozone and into the UK. This is precisely what the EU does not want to happen, and represents a big hindrance to trying to play political hardball in this situation. The companies in the EU may not share the same political values as the politicians, and may simply work around trade barriers rather than leaving the UK market to rot as the EU would prefer.
The UK may not have the raw size of the EU marketplace, but if they streamline their economy enough that may not matter. The profit margins available to companies could actually be better on smaller volumes in the UK.
You can be Nissan will be lobbied heavily by both sides before this is over.
First of all: Nisan denied all these rumors.
2) there is an overcapacity of car production inside the EU. So, if one wants to leave the EU: Fantastic.
Tesla going to start in Germany, so market volume needed anyhow. And all UK car plants are owned by organisations outside the UK, who for sure will think in exconomies of scale, especially for all investments for electric cars, do a dying UK car industry in a 5-10 years anyhow.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/business/cars-brexit-europe-technology.html
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6 hours ago, izod10 said:
UK has the power to destroy the EU,from within. Block fishing ,rioting will occur in western EU countries property damage,loss of life too no doubt. Millions are invested in EU fisheries ,all about to go to rot, the EU are over a barrel and they know it. Pity about GBP with Boris talking tough, but good thing short term
UK fishery industry,... the financial hart of London a 168 x so important in revenues… And THERE the knock-out will be the hardest, when EU consumers ( = banks, Insurance and pension co's ) decide to let a EU Judge take decissions on written ( codexed) laws in case of a dispute. not the "common-law" circus.
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8 hours ago, smedly said:one of many I suspect
Nissan has a golden opportunity to cut its losses at failing plants in France and Spain and gain UK market share in the event the EU refuses to get off its high horse leading to trade barriers.
The European Union wants to stifle our full potential as an independent nation. To quote our Foreign Secretary yesterday: "It just ain't happening!"
What we're not going to do is have the same dynamic where we're told there are red lines that must shift. Alignment is not on the negotiating table, it's not even in the negotiating room..." How great to be out of the EU with a government that means business!
Barnier and his masters in Brussels need to waken up, they are not dealing with the weak lying and inept disfunctional Traitor May and her remainer team Hammond Grieve Gauke and Robbins backed by the twisted rat Burkov
I think, the British have to get used, negociationg is not as in the past, towards the Irish, Zanzibar and Birma: "WE bring in our demands, and when you very humble accepts, maybe we will leave you a few extra crumbs". It is now a tiny Island with 65 mln consumers and a GDP of $2,828 billion against 450 mln consumers with a GDP of $ 15,869 billion, so 5.6 x as large ( 2018 base) . Get used to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union
Is there anybody, who really believes, tiny UK will get a better deal than big EU.. with the EU accepting this, and will NOT ask an explanation from the other country / get the same - if better - deal as tiny UK got
Compare it with Tesco (27,4%), who hears Waitrose ( 5,4%) got a better deal !
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7 hours ago, petermik said:The EU can take a hike...the boot is on the right foot now and we will not be bullied into anything that is not in our best interests....fark them I say
Correct.
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3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Really??? I thought everything was 100% under control!
Just as the bird flue a 17 years ago…. by mouth of the politicians only...
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3 hours ago, Morty T said:
The real issue here is that the EU just lost their military arm, now who is going to send troops when the liberals in the EU try to impose one of their fantasy support missions, the Germans 5555
Since when the EU ever had anything what looks like a "military... wheatever ?
All military activities were done OR under NATO or a temporary Alliance of nations. NEVER any involvement of the EU. Not in Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Balkan whatsoever.
Time you learn to read !
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31 minutes ago, billd766 said:
You are absolutely correct. The UK does need to trade with the EU but it does NOT need to be ruled by the EU. AFAIK Boris and the UK negotiators are quite happy to do just that. But if the EU want too much for a deal that the UK can get elsewhere cheaper, then that is where the UK should go.
If the EU slaps tariffs on some UK goods then the UK has the right to do the same to the EU tariffs.
The EU - in case of a "not sufficient deal" - will levy the normal WTO-tariff for "third countries", see https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/taric_consultation.jsp?Lang=en
As we live already for many centuries in a free world economy, everyone is free to buy/sell where he/she believes to get the best bargain.
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20 minutes ago, billd766 said:
You are absolutely correct. The UK does need to trade with the EU but it does NOT need to be ruled by the EU. AFAIK Boris and the UK negotiators are quite happy to do just that. But if the EU want too much for a deal that the UK can get elsewhere cheaper, then that is where the UK should go.
If the EU slaps tariffs on some UK goods then the UK has the right to do the same to the EU tariffs.
No country is RULED by the EU. Why you British did not learn anything how the EU works ?
First of all: the EU Parliament, with elected representatives of each member state. Not so much influence.
2) The EU Commission, with a commissioner from each EU member state. As president: Von der Leyen ( in the part: Juncker). Are allowed to do investigation, proposals etc. Kind of council of minsters.
3) EU Council, existing of the leader of government of each EU member state, and in fact the only one with power. President: Michel. In the past: Tusk. Even when the EU Parliament wanted THEIR "Spitzenkandidat" as president of the Commission, it failed completely, as.,. the EU P has NOTHING to say about who will be elected by the EU Council as president of the Committee.
In that Council always the Prime Minister of the UK was one of the members, so, if he/she did NOT agree, nothing would happen.
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3 hours ago, codebunny said:
Japan is not a stronger economy... they've been in stagflation for decades...
Germany is in recession, haven't you heard?
Again a Brit, who cannot read nor search on Internet:
shows that GDP increased 0.1% in the third quarter. The German economy shrank 0.2% in the second quarter.
Whow… these make difference.. + 0,1% or -0,2%... a HELL of a difference…
2) https://seekingalpha.com/article/4305363-japan-news-from-land-of-stagflation.. Japan is still experiencing growth. With a GDP
Japan's economy, the third largest in the world behind the United States and China, grew at an annualized rate of 1.8 percent in the second quarter of 2019, according to data released on Friday by the country's cabinet. The figure exceeded economists' expectations, which had been tempered by slowing global demand.8 aug. 2019
www.nytimes.com › 2019/08/08 › business › japan-economy
GDP figure in 2018 was $4,971,767 million = 1,75 x as much as the UK. GDP per capita of Japan in 2018 was $39,293
2019-11-11 Britain's economy grew 0.3 percent in the third quarter of 2019, recovering from a 0.2 percent contraction in the previous three-month period
GDP figure in 2018 was $2,828,833 million. GDP per capita of United Kingdom in 2018 was $42,580
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2 hours ago, AlbionBob said:
All this doomsday talk about Brexit infuriates me ! I wondered when it might occur to a car manufacturer that it would be crazy to take car manufacturing out of the UK, just to assuage the bully boys of the EU. Do they not realise that UK car buyers, of which there are many millions, will buy cars manufactured in the UK, using UK workers, and having NO punitive duties imposed, over those coming from the continent with such duties imposed just in order to punish the UK for having the temerity to leave their beloved union ! I for one, and I suspect many millions of us Brits will buy Nissan and Toyota, rather than Peugeot or Citroen, if they have such a price differential, just as I suspect that we will be buying Californian, Australian or South African wines rather than French or German wines ! I am one of the school that will henceforward refuse to buy anything from the EU if I can get it from elsewhere. Bring on the trade deals with Japan, US, Australia, New Zealand et al !!
Those import duties are nothing else as the consequence of trading under WTO-rules, as the Brexiteers prefer.
Just 11 months to go, and trade with the UK really bings money into the EU treasury: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/taric_consultation.jsp?Lang=en
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2 hours ago, Loiner said:
The EU has directly and indirectly contributed to the decline of British manufacturing.
It was not the only factor, but nonetheless contributed in many aspects.
Just search in Google:
IN THE 1970s, Britain was dubbed “the sick man of Europe”, a role previously played by the Ottoman empire in the late 19th century. ... The reason Britain joined what was then the EEC in 1973 (at the third attempt) was, in large part, a desperate attempt to find a way of forcing the country to become more competitive.19 jul. 2017Thanks to the EEC ( and since the ratification of the Lisbon treaty by the UK parliament member of the successor: the EU) , the UK is economically still alive.-
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2 hours ago, tebee said:
So should the EU send all the sick old UK retirees in the EU back to the UK (inc ME!) and overwhelm the NHS too?
Yeah… with all docters, nurses etc from the EU gone. But one big advantage: as many farm helpers are also gone, enough jobs vacant. ( Sorry for you )
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5 hours ago, transam said:Its a mistery to me how you haven't had a heart attack by now over Brexit...I have read three plus years of your doom and gloom...????
Why ? Any consequences of Brexit did not happen yet. Maybe at 1 Jan 2021.
Time enough for industries in the UK to scale down their activities and expand inside the EU. Of course not in one blow, as then the Unions will block their premises, and no spare part nor machine gets out.
Just step-by-step:
- new model cannot be produced ( in full scale) in ...Sunderland..., because... components from the EU cannot be brought in easy and without duty into the UK , etc...
- EU customers insist Insurance and finance activities for them are under EU law,
- Foods MUST be under IFS ( BRC obsolete), and under EU food inspection, so FSA is not valid (anymore) ..etc etc..
Many excuses possible.
I am an international food trader. Many EU customers ( retail + industry) "hesitate" to add in components/products, of which they do not have an idea, how the position will be in .. 11 months...
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4 hours ago, evadgib said:
It popped up briefly during Sky's press review this morning but I wasn't paying attention re specifics.
HTH
First of alll: “We deny such a contingency plan exists,” said a spokesman for Nissan Europe. https://www.ft.com/content/c4f0d1e2-4442-11ea-a43a-c4b328d9061c Maybe whisful thinking of the Brexiteers ?
2) Great., There is too much car production capacity inside the EU, so when Nissan will close a few plants: GREAT !
The rest of the world still prefer : "deutsche Grúndlichkeit"
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9 hours ago, englishoak said:If that happens it would be exactly the same for the EU too and they sell far more into the UK than we do in the other direction. However, Boris is in the party of Red tape cutting not the other way around and we can do whatever we need to immediately, cut taxes, VAT etc to help business, cut regulations is far more likely to offset any added. To get a good deal hardball is the only language the EU understands and it looks like so does this government. Free trade ports and zones are on the cards as is far more Global trade. As time goes on that will only increase, the path is set and the focus will not be on European trade but the rest of the world. EU in contrast is failing and just lost one of its 3 net contributors, Already theres trouble brewing there how that HUGE financial hole is going to be plugged ... Italy is in a terrible state, Greece remains bankrupt and Spain is on the edge, Germany is all but in recession and France has been burning for a year already and continues to, the rest take out far more than they put in and Ireland is almost totally dependent on trade with the UK... whatever Britain's problems they are small compared to the EUs already worsening ones.
I dont think many appreciate the size of the mandate hes been given, it will allow transformation of the UK not seen since the times of Thatcher, only this time it will be the regions in the rest of the UK who will be focused on or he will lose that mandate and Boris is not a stupid man. It'll take a while to clean out Whitehall of the EU centric civil servants and thats already happening. We have spent long enough naval gazing, time to get going on the future.
EU is not the future for us, the world is and the sooner the EU wakes up to that the better.
Nice, all these tax cuts, but.. any idea, where the UK will get the funds from to pay all what is necessary to run a country ? Not to forget the 350 mln pounds per week for the NHS !
As lost contributor to the EU budget: that soon will be covered by import duties of UK products into the EU: a LOT more.
The GDP of Greece is growing again, that of Italy and France are about the size of the UK ( and higher as of the Single Kingdom), with more trade treaties ratified than the UK will have in a decade.
The big wide world… is really waiting for you … as supplier maybe, but NOT as customer for British products. Please donot forget it is NOT the times of the 19th + beginning of the 20th century, when "negociation" for the British meant: "we give a proposal, and.. when YOU bend enough for us, maybe we will add a few crumbs for you".
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9 hours ago, Victornoir said:
You reverse the facts and distort history.
1870, 1914, 1939 ... 3 successive European wars mainly between Germans and French. Millions of deaths for nothing.
It was to stop this that the EU was formed and so far it has worked perfectly. The common market was only a happy consequence.The UK Atlantist was not invited and only participate after repeated requests, year after year. Now it leave and in my eyes it is rather a good thing for the future.
Exactly as Charles de Gaule said for years: the British do NOT feel themselves a part of Continental Europe, big chance for frustration and sabotage, so… NEVER let them in the EEC. He was over 99 % right.
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23 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:
I claim only that we won the war and some people...like yourself...still want to argue the point...????
Which war ? Against Sinn Fein in 1917 ? Or against the Boers in Natal, by lockign their children and women in concentration camps to suffer and die ?
WO1 was won by the USA, and WO2 by the Sovjets with some help of the USA.
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On 1/29/2020 at 3:04 PM, Puchaiyank said:
News flash...Britian is leaving the EU BECAUSE of having to adhere to EU BS...
EU standards are NOT acceptable to many Brits...
When I buy food products or quite some non-foods ( CE-standard ) from China, Vietnam, Thailand..... Kenya, ….Peru, it is in fully accordance of EU rules.
So, UK.. good luck with all your products… direction the times of Alfred the Great...
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2 hours ago, smedly said:what world are you living - the UK market is huge
Do you realise that the UK market alone is worth (for the EU) is more than 19 member states together and the second or first biggest for the EU, actual facts probably hurt for some to hear
Only one tiny difference; these 19 EU member states form - together with all others - ONE big single market. Only at some restaurants you can see somethink looking like the old borders. For the UK ( or soon the Single Kingdom ?) it involves a lot of export documents, with also a currency risk.
Donot forget: an out-of-competition situation for UK manufactured cars into the EU would benefit MANY inside the EU.
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