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2 hours ago, LongTang said:

If its in your hands, NEVER OVERSTAY. You never know when it will come back to hunt you.. (like in the elite-visa saga..).

 

As expected, it seems like it will soon be much more difficult and expensive for foreigners to rent here. A grim set of affairs indeed.

i am not here to argue when i try to respect all visa holders, but how the hell do you include the elite visa into this topic! recently there were 2 posters who were granted elite visas with an overstay history so maybe that thread needs to updated, but its easy to panic with many visas at the moment

but for me this topic is a potential monster under the umbrella of nationalists without any checks or balances.

if this is enforced as another thread poster today has been rejected not even a fine for an extension, then this will change the whole way foreigners stay on this land until these nationalists are released of their stranglehold.

foreigners renting 15k under will have more and more thai owners going no way jose, i can rent to a thai, forget renting to the farang hassle and tax etc. over 15k more thai owners wont have the same choices, as some thais can buy, outside bangkok then those amounts would be reduced, but hell for many of us trying to find a thai owner to do this 'will' become the next major hassle for many of us for 2019 if its entirely enforced. thanks illegal nationalists, thanks a lot

i can imagine many thai owners not wanting the hassle or the idea maybe they may have to pay tax by renting to non-thai. thanka to the illegal natuonalists we are fast becoming the disgusting bogeymen to avoid at all costs

32 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

sounds like it's not a witch hunt against foreigners but foreigners are being impacted by your apartment management not following the law.

 

my apartment owners supply all the required information on tenants to the local police. i was told an IO was going to visit me months ago but they never turned up. when i mentioned this to the apartment owner he told me that the IO probably checked the records with the police and as i was shown to be staying here and they had my up to date visa details there was no reason to visit me.

 

as far as i know immigration have never visited a foreigner in my building.

there are no ivory towers here, with the billions of rentable buildings it would be impossible to check all buildings. Its the unlucky buildings that are being chosen, zero to do with individuals staying as to why a building is witchunted that day by the illegal nationalists. just this op had the balls to put it on this forum. many read this and a few have had the same but just kept quiet.

sathu pradit soi 13/15 had 5 towers raided on a sunday, and all occupants were not allowed to leave their appartments until they were given the all clear by imm that their papers/passports were in order. yes extreme but the ops is a lighter witchunt but its the same game

good on you for letting people know

another round of busting balls when there are no checks and balances on these nationalists. tm28/tm30 were an easy excuse to raid residences to continue their rhetoric. in ratchada, i saw a imm. convey of motorbikes and pick ups, no helmuts by the way, on the 'lookout' at around 7pm, the other day, either on their way to sukhumvit or the night market. 

btw the more landlords etc give foreigners the wide berth, the more fuel on to an already worsening econonomy and property market. 

13 hours ago, keysersoze276 said:

This is weird.  You didn't use your catch phrase this time.  Usually you tell all other members to comply with the rules without any questions or discussion or leave.  Love the username, sorry it went to your head.  Just imagine what you could have done with that money if you were just a "good guy" and didn't need to buy an "elite visa".  You could feed poor rural village for a day easily.  But people have priorities, you got the elite visa.  Understood.  Nothing wrong doing that.  Stepping into the forum telling people to get out though, is a whole new ball game.  If you sat next to me at a bar or struck up a conversation with me at a food stall, I guarantee if I said visa changes were a problem you wouldn't dare tell me to comply or get out.  And if some old man told  you he was stressed because he has there grandchildren with birthdays this month and he promised to help his youngest son buy a new home, I don't think you would tell him to f*** off and get out.  Would you?  (I read your previous posts.  Telling people to comply is not help or guidance.  Get off the stage you Prima Donna!)

 

he doesnt have an elite card, hes admitted to that, its just twisted that he uses the visa in his username to become some authority on elite or other visas,when in reality he is talking nonsense most of the time. But yeah it makes other card holders look like junta loving self serving lovers of thai illegal nationslists. Which is not true. Let me tell you i respect all visa holders who ever you are and i am disgusted that user is allowed to get away with it

3 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Doesn't  exactly help when you "tease" out information, with words  like TM30-28 will be the least of your  worries , does it.

its the illegal nationalists that have pushed for the cyber laws and created monitoring teams going back 11 years. Lets see how long they last under the current climate when the people are just sick of them. 

3 hours ago, Lovethailandelite said:

The country has a perfectly legitimate working government. They are absolutely 100% not in limbo. You really shouldn't listen to internet and media talk.

you should stop making people believe you know what you talking about by using a visa name in your username to give that air of authority.

its over for these illegal nationalists, their 5 years of hell pushing 100's of naff laws is coming to an end, its just how long they hang on now.

there're have been punch drunk with no checks and balances and have created damage which will take years to correct. immigration is one of many departments to be taken over by these nationalists. laughable to see other nationalists pushing the insurance scam, anyone in government can change acts, orders and personnel. 

lets see how long they last 1-2 years maybe, maybe not, 5 years not a chance in hell, not after the chuckle p brothers disaster of a obvious rig show of an election

6 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said:

 

i honestly wouldn't mind the malaysian system.

At least it's a longterm visa with no bs, no stupid 90 day reports, tm30 bs and the other shortcomings. Also it's for people of age 35 plus and not 50 plus like here....

yes but malaysia copied some of their programme from the thai's 3 million baht investment visa which was ended years ago . Nowadays under these nationalists even less people will go for it. There is also the issue of 3 million in, lots if hassles when transferring out. But never mind i am sure some nationslist will hope to promote it and find out that people will just laugh at the idea and go ,up yours,this is thailand not switzerland where people still use pavements as toilets. 

If you had a stable free and democratic gov. for a few years, then i can see 1 or 2 going yeah thats not too bad, but under these nationslists , no way 

and whose to say the joker boy wont be sidelined soon enough when the billion dollar partners start panicking about the economy and put in place more welcoming ideas at imm. yeah i am dreaming right now but over the next 1-2 years things on this land will be different. Last sunday saw to that, its the start of people wanting these goons out 

34 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said:

I think you misunderstood. The meeting had nothing to do with this topic.
There should of been an announcement regarding the police orders about the alcohol sales ban called for over the SongKran holiday. That appears to of manifested from a one day ban on the 13th April too a complete ban over the whole of the period due to SongKran being celebrated on different days in different provinces/towns. Nothing was decided as those making the decision have been unavailable due to other, more important things.The media seems to be running with the story today.
I have no more information or indeed a date for any further update.

i lost your reply in my other post but it seems you pander far too much to the whims of an illegal nationslist gang who have put in place people in every department over 5 years to create a nationslist fiasco including the imm. dept.

its laughable, well i had a good laugh that anyone under these naff economic times thinking to re-hash the 3 million investment visa blah blah that was dispanded years ago. These nationalists just wont be around in 5 years. Maybe 1-2 years tops.

Then what?reality check, trying to forge friendships with foreign investors again, laughable, they wont come back, that boat would have sailed.

last 12 months billions of dollars have exited from investment funds, now some of the smaller guys are going up yours

insurance, reporting, increase of investment requirements,its a twisted nationslist game.And after sunday the chuckle p gang couldnt even rig their own rigged game correctly without getting caught.

There is no way they will be alowed to keep messing this upby their billion dollar partners. And thats before the people start taking back control. Its starting and these nationalists policies will be discarded for the sake of a sinking economy.

1 hour ago, rabas said:

 

The laws have always been enforced for hotels, resorts, and some condos.  Other, very inconvenient parts of the law have been ignored, as they should be. Then sometime last year a foreigner (I think Chinese) living in a high rise condo along the Chaophraya river started complaining to officials about noise (imagine!, in Thailand!) coming from a nearby Wat with a large bell. So it starts with a foreigner complaining about a Thai Wat to Thai officials.

 

While investigating what's wrong with this foreigner or how to get rid of him to preserve Buddhism, they discover there is no record of his residency, or the residency of most foreigners renting from Thai condo owners in the building.  So Thai culture is being  threatened by missing TM30s.

 

Now, Thai Immigration is run by the Royal Thai police who have no power to make laws, only the government can do that.  And, immigration is currently involved in cleaning up their own rampant corruption including external Thai agents, and now it seems Thais renting to foreigners.  Since they can't make new laws they must fully enforce TM30, which is simply not possible. 

i dont know how you came up with that picture, but this hostile environment has increased since the nationalists took over 5 years ago, remember 500,000 burmese/cambodians fleeing to the borders 4 years ago? 

7 years ago a single dinosaur nationalist protest at a stadium next to mbk lasted 1 day and soon after changed clothes to be the bangkok shutdown mob, but for those 7 hours, that day, spoke of their intentions, we were just 1% of their speech, but most of what they said has come to fruition. Yes its was hype but shutting down the country for 5 years and kicking out foreigners, for all of the bravado, they are starting to inch away those nationalist statements that day. 

frightening what these nationalists can get up to in a very short space of time with no checks and balances. One good thing going forward(if theres anyone of us left) they will never have the popular or majority mandate, not after the disaster we all witnesed at the weekend.

The article could be talking about a host of visas etc, we can all be thinking the worst over any new details right now, not just those on retirement visas.

1 hour ago, Homburg said:

"Election not free or fair, says poll monitor"  ROFL.  Next week's shocking headline: Water is wet.

why the downplay, even the western hacks can no longer keep downplaying what happened, but i am sure they will try to appease the nationslists

nice username by the way

24 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

I'm lost. What are these children doing insofar as making visa extensions, without their parents and needing paid agents outside the school?

 pretty sure the schools set it up with parents for agents for those that dont want to diy it, its been a daily occurance at n-section for years, top tier schools, even other schools , kids in uniforms and agents directing operations. you see the odd foreign parent with their children, but nothing like the numbers being processed by agents. I seen it for years now and its got worse since the nationalists have been around. 80% of their work students and 20% for teachers, hell i even had an agent on the desk with the immi official helping her do my visa for a joke, i have a totally different visa to ed. imo but thats the way it is at n-section, agents galore

if its a fairer system then people will need agents less, when its stacked against you with nationalists then people will use agents more

just have to see n-section at cw where agents of top international schools are leading in the wealthy students in their uniforms, normal, happens everyday there, nobody is kicking up a fuss, in fact the larger organisations like large schools, probably think its the best and only way to get things done, especially under the present conditions

500k for nearly 5-6 years is 80-100k baht a year

1 million for nearly 20-24 years is 40-50k baht a year

if these nationalists stay in for a few more years, lawyers fees will cost more annually for a 12 month stay on many other long stay visas

forget trying to DIY a visa if they stay in power, it will become just less hassle to pay extra for 'others' to try to handle it 

nothing is cheap anymore, money stagnate in accounts etc, the days of getting by on peanuts for a stay of life on this land has been over for a while, thanks illegal nationalists, thanks alot

most of the families around me who send their kids to international schools are thai and the going rate is 800-1.2 million a year, one of the boys is at boarding at harrow 1.8 million a year, i can see the market decreasing their profit margins and increasing quality and better facilities, its needed one girl just moved from primary riverside shrewsbury school, 24 in a class to the new shrewsbury at rama 9, now 8 in her class, you hear all the good and bad from their parents, but crikey are they overly expensive, 1.8 million boarding is on a par with eton etc in the uk and please dont tell me the teaching will be the same, it be cheaper to send a to the uk

19 hours ago, ukrules said:

If they won't allow people who have overstayed to renew the TE visa then I simply won't renew it until maybe they change the rules or perhaps never, I can get a retirement visa in a few years anyway.

if contacting them now over a phone or in person with showing the details in the passport maybe they can give an answer and mention any changes they have been told and how it exactly affects past/present/future. This i am sure they know as this topic would have been exchanged many times recently with the increase of nationalist propaganda against foreigners and long term stayers and they  will be on friendly terms with immigration to know whats going with changes in the wind daily/weekly/monthly. Maybe in person you get a more clearer response, the one problem with call centers that they csn give an overall answer not an individual answer