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The army's current bunker mentality is not helping. Something must be done to resuscitate the economy and bring millions back into the work force. A cautious approach. But some approach. Something. Anything. 

Chinese or otherwise Thailand must open itself up to at least limited International tourism which can be very done very safely with the Chula test kits administered at the airport or another form of instant or quick testing, Sure there is some risk, but it's a much bigger risk to allow millions of Thai people to remain unemployed for the long-term especially for the Army, which is teetering on the brink of maintaining power considering how despised they are by the masses. Not that I care, I'd love to see them go, but I'm more concerned about the Thai people. Doing nothing is tragic and dumb. 

22 hours ago, Sumarianson said:

It just means that Thailand have not been lying their hats off like other countries. In fact there has not been a single patient that died in Thailand whose death can be solely attributed to the Coronavirus Covid 19! They all had underlying problems. In other countries, every patient that appeared in the hospital or even died at home of known causes was logged as having COVID 19, whether tested or not. Oc course this attributed to the exaggerated figures. While I admire the Thai authorities for collating truthful information I do believe that the danger was and still is overstated. I do not believe we should be wearing masks and creating fear in the population

(which is the main theme here)! I further believe that the lockdown with the restrictions it imposed has done unnecessary long lasting damage to the Thai economy, its businesses and people a majority of which will never recover. 

There is a fine line between what is necessary to control such a virus and creating unwarranted fear and damage to an economy. I honestly believe (with a great deal of research I might add) that the world overreacted, politicians, doctors and officials of hospitals and government were complicit in exaggerating the danger, the figures, the lockdown they said was required and much more. To add to that they have now introduced draconian unrealistic measures on travel which will destroy tourism. The previous measures that were in place in airports, lining up, invasive searches, bottles of liquid no more than 100ml, no water? These measures had already convinced me not to travel unless absolutely necessary. Your holiday from your stressful year at work became even more stressful, so much so, that you were glad to be back home. I just don't go and stay home now or travel locally by car. These newest measures will not encourage travellers. Thai people may say now that they don't want foreigners, but when their pockets are squeesed and the prices of items go up they may have a change of heart. I fear it will be all too late then as foreigners just like most, don't want to go where they are told they are not wanted ( thanks to leaders like Anutin the mouth with his racist dirty Farang rant) unless of course you are a millionaire for whom there is always a false smile and a Sawatdee Ka.

Good points. And the part about Thai people not wanting foreigners is total BS. A fake army survey, no doubt. They want us, and need us.

The economy here is on its knees. Millions are out of work. The restrictions on travel are based on extreme paranoia. 

Now, that he is met with utter humiliation, international scorn, and much opposition from the people of Thailand, he decides that law and order are important. For six years now, Prayuth could not possibly have been more indifferent to law and order, the stunning incompetence and corruption plaguing the nation's cops, and the inequity within the system. 

It seems, the only way for any progress to take place, with this toxic army, is through shame and the public unmasking of their objective to protect the rich and those that are connected, and in power, at all costs. 

Now he acts. Will anything come of this besides some lower ranked guys getting transferred at full pay? Nobody in power ever gets prosecuted under his watch. 

NMWYDIWPY. No matter what you do, I will protect you. The army code of dishonor. 

Those are still abusive and ridiculous rates. Considering what the banks are paying for the money they are using.

This should be considered a felony. Lock up the bankers! 

6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Could you explain a few of the ways in which tourists could safely be allowed into Thailand ?

Bearing in mind we would be talking about 50-100 000 tourists per day , who would be coming to Thailand for 2,3, 4 weeks at a time 

Yes. All the authorities have to do is to use a quick testing kit, like the Chula Covid 19 strip test, or a rapid antigen testing kit. Tourists get tested at the airport, at their expense. They could create more stringent testing or regulations for those coming from Zombie nations, such as the US and Brazil. 

Doing nothing at this point means financial devastation for millions. And what is the hapless army doing to offset that financial ruin? 

8 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

trump’s response to Fauci’s well thought through and balanced testimony 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/trump-covid-19-fauci-cases-testing?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Trump simply cannot handle dissension or someone contradicting his story line. He is not man enough. His pathological lack of self esteem, masked by extreme grandiosity, means skin thinner than a pimple faced 9 year old. He cannot let stuff go. And every time he does that, he diminishes himself, makes a fool of himself and demonstrates to the planet how ill equipped he is for the job of president. 

Not to worry. Only three months to go, till he gets beaten senseless, and exits DC with the most radioactive name on the planet. 

Many accurate sentiments on this thread. Times are tough now. Alot of hardship. Many thefts are acts of desperation. The Thai people are generally not predisposed to this kind of thing. Not like in the PI or Cambodia. But, why not exercise some discretion? Why create the temptation? 

I agree with the success that the authorities have had in tackling the pandemic, no question they've done a lot of things right, however at this point in time with Covid virtually gone from the country they need to provide the general public and the masses with more assistance. The people need to get back on their feet, the authorities need to show more generosity and more sympathy in regard to the millions and millions of people who are currently out of work, and they need to come up with an intelligent strategy pertaining to International tourism.

There are many ways International tourists can be allowed into Thailand, in a very safe manner without the overzealous protectionism that's currently in place. This kind of thing really needs to be thought through as there are billions of dollars at stake and millions of jobs on the line. 

Easy for wealthy authorities to be overly careful. But, people need to live.

I have a suggestion. Every officer in the army, and every member of the administration forego your salaries and donate them to the public assistance fund, until the economy returns to normal. You proclaim to love your nation and it's people. Do not say it. That is meaningless. Show it! 

Fauci standing up to GOP corruption, moral degradation, fealty to the master, and an abhorrence for truth is a beautiful thing to witness. 

21 hours ago, seajae said:

problem is dems are using lies and innuendo to make their points so he is trying to get at the truth which dems refuse to do, maybe if dems were honest about it he wouldnt attack them. His points when the AG was questioned about dems totally ignoring the truth about the rioting etc as well as them not letting the AG reply to their questions was spot on to anyone that watched it, what is needed is the truth and not all the dems BS

Just face the facts. Both parties are corrupt, beyond redemption. Both are bought and paid for. Both are owned by corporations and special interests. Both have a hard time saying no to lobbyists. Thinking otherwise is naive. Blame all you want. It does not change the truth. 

The RTP is busted. They were outed for being the franchise that they are. They were ordered to stand down. And they did. And they went out of their way to make up a story. And the story was pathetic, backed up by unreliable and unbelievable witnesses. 

Now, the public is outraged, and rightly so. Corruption is ugly. When it is blatant, performed by utter incompetents, and right in your face, it is far uglier. Prayuth has alot to answer for. He is in a pickle. He is there to protect the elite, the police, the powerful and those in office. What to do? 

He will do what he typically does. Install a committee. After some time, they will find a few officers they are willing to use as scapegoats. They will be transferred. As usual no firings, no prosecutions, and no jail time for anyone. The shameless and toxic Thai army, at work, and the RTP. A franchise for hire. 

It is questionable how high the risk is of allowing tourists into the country that is for sure, however the risk of not allowing tourists into the country is extremely high. In the case of Thailand we're talking about the risk of devestating millions upon millions of people who are relying upon the industry. Up to 20% of the total economy, if you take into account all related Industries. That is 5, 6, 7 million jobs lost for Forever at this pace.

The government needs to be cautious but there are many ways they could allow a limited amount of tourism very safely, they just need a strategy and they need to avoid making it so difficult that no tourist in their right mind is going to come here.